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Michael and Joye Anestis
Michael and Joye Anestis are doctoral candidates in the clinical psychology program at Florida State University.
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Comparison of CBT and ACT in the treatment of depression and anxiety: Differences emerge at long-term follow-up
Posted Jul 10, 2012 at Psychotherapy Brown Bag
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Suicide, the NFL, and chronic traumatic encephalopathy
Posted Jul 7, 2012 at Psychotherapy Brown Bag
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Wes -
At the time this article came out, we were posting cited article on our references page (link at the top of the page). If they're not in there though, you can use the info within this article to do a quick Google Scholar search. Best of luck to you.
- Mike Anestis
Guest article - Wilderness therapy: A popular but misguided treatment for "at risk" adolescents
by Kim Van Orden, Ph.D. Adolescence is a time when some degree of emotional dysregulation is normative, and it is also the case that some adolescents demonstrate emotional and behavioral dysregulation in excess of what is normative that places them at risk for outcomes such as suicidal behavi...
First off, thanks for the response. It's been quite a while since I've read the article referenced in this PBB piece, but I'll do my best to respond point-by-point to your comment.
(1) I'm okay with you characterizing at least part of my piece here as a rant. It's a blog and, at times, I rant a bit. I'm not sure that using words like "horrific" justify that characterization, but I'm fine with that either way. The opening of the piece raised what I believe to be an interesting question - the difficulty in balancing the first amendment (which I value a TON) and looking out for publications with the potential to cause harm. I offered a potential solution, which was to make these types of potentially controversial articles more of a dialogue either through much more prominent (and open) comment sections or through a system in which replies to original articles are published, thereby creating a public discussion capable of giving folks a chance to develop their own informed opinions.
(2) I'm less on board with characterizing reflections on personal experiences as "facts," particularly within the context of an article in which the author is discussing directions for the future of health care. Paul Meehl would have a heart attack were he to read that.
(3) Given my discussion of my value of the first amendment, it should be clear that I also respect people's right to their opinions and their perspectives and that I also think they should be able to talk about them. The question isn't whether opinions should be hidden, but whether all opinions should be given the same access to worldwide podiums. Perhaps they should....that was the question I raised. I highly suspect that folks I've worked with as a therapist are aware that I am highly interested in their experiences in treatment, both prior to and while working with me.
(4) Nobody said that you need an advanced degree to talk about your own experiences. I do, however, think you need an advanced degree or immense experience with the scientific literature in a subject area if you are going to publish a NY Times piece discussing the relative value of different forms of treatment for mental illness and the path the field should take in the future. These are important topics and readers deserved informed opinions. I get that he was interested in the value of writing beyond the idea of psychotherapy, but his piece spoke to a point I believe to be important.
(5) Yes...15 minutes was an exaggeration. Sarcasm, folks.
(6) The author referred to psychotherapy only as "talk therapy" and made no differentiation between forms of treatment despite epic amounts of research on various forms of treatment and their varying levels of effectiveness. I see no way in which my conclusion there can be seen as reading into anything. If the author believes differently, he did a horrible job of conveying that point.
(7) Other examples of the author characterizing "talk therapy" as I said he did:
"A generation ago, when “Annie Hall” won the Oscar for Best Picture, talk therapy occupied a prominent place in our collective imagination, whether or not you partook. If you wanted to spend several hours a week baring your soul to a stranger who was professionally obligated to listen and react, you went into therapy. Today you join a writing workshop."
"Like the patient on the analytic sofa, we fixate on particular stories and characters and themes because they speak to the fears and desires hidden within us. Our inventions inevitably take the form of veiled confessions."
Can you cite any examples of him characterizing "talk therapy" in a different way? If not, that means his only descriptions of treatment align with my characterization.
(8) I disagree with the notion the creative writing offers a suitable alternative to psychotherapy (at least evidence-based treatments). When I refer to facts, I refer to repeated falsification of hypotheses. As I have mentioned countless times on PBB, positive findings are not facts, but repeated non-significant findings represent a repudiation of a claim. Popper pointed this out LONG before this site existed. I merely echo his words.
(9) If you think my definition of a "fact" is the conclusion of a research article, you either have not read this site.
(10) Happy to read those articles.
(11) Which treatments have been incorrectly labeled effective based on poor research practices? How great of a likelihood of readers being led away from effective treatment is acceptable to you? Is there a certain number of lives that can be damaged without the cost of a bad article being considered too high?
(12)"I think you can do more to improve the quality of mental health treatment by joining the movement to improve the quality of research in this area than by railing at the NY Times. In other words, quality, like charity, begins at home."
PBB is a hobby I do on the side. I'm not than content with my contribution to research and my CV is readily available if you would like to determine for yourself whether I'm doing the work to contribute beyond "railing at the NY Times" (does that phrase qualify your comment as a rant?). You use a pseudonym, so I'm not sure what contributions you're making beyond anonymous internet comments.
(13) If you see flaws in studies I describe that you believe I have overlooked, by all means point them out. I'm always looking for the strengths and weaknesses of research and do my best to report them. My comment section is always open and I'm happy to hear disagreements with specific points. I might not agree with you and we might argue back and forth a bit, but that's the point of the site. If the implication is that I intentionally overlook flaws, that's a point we'll have to disagree on.
- Mike Anestis
Do media outlets have a responsibility to ensure quality in their reporting on mental health related topics?
by Michael D. Anestis, Ph.D. This is not a political forum and I'm definitely not looking to incite any sort of contentious conversation about political leanings. That being said, let me open this up by making clear that I am about as pro-free speech as an individual can get. Ok...that that'...
The NFL and suicide
Posted May 18, 2012 at Psychotherapy Brown Bag
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More DSM-V Talk
Posted May 7, 2012 at Psychotherapy Brown Bag
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DSM-V Changes
Posted May 4, 2012 at Psychotherapy Brown Bag
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Two interesting suicide-related findings
Posted May 2, 2012 at Psychotherapy Brown Bag
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A back-and-forth about psychotherapy that could have been interesting, but fell way short
Posted Apr 24, 2012 at Psychotherapy Brown Bag
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Suicide Public Service Announcement by Thomas Joiner
by Michael D. Anestis, Ph.D. Thought I'd take a moment to share a PSA by my graduate school major professor, Thomas Joiner. This kind of thing is not done nearly enough by prominent researchers, but it's a great way to... Continue reading
Posted Mar 28, 2012 at Psychotherapy Brown Bag
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Do media outlets have a responsibility to ensure quality in their reporting on mental health related topics?
Posted Mar 26, 2012 at Psychotherapy Brown Bag
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Reality and error in science: The value of replication
Posted Mar 24, 2012 at Psychotherapy Brown Bag
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Antidepressants and placebos: Watching the debate unfold
Posted Mar 9, 2012 at Psychotherapy Brown Bag
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Mindfulness and attention
Posted Mar 4, 2012 at Psychotherapy Brown Bag
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Man...if you'd asked me, I would have said I was 100% certain that psychopathy was listed as a subcomponent in the new personality structure on the DSM-V site. Looking over it though, it doesn't seem to be there. Very odd.
Anyway, I'll edit that line out ASAP. In the meantime, thanks for noticing the error!
- Mike Anestis
Distress tolerance in antisocial personality disorder and psychopathy
by Michael D. Anestis, Ph.D. As they do so often, the crew over at the University of Maryland has put out a study that I believe is remarkably informative and interesting. In this case, I'm referring to a brief report published by Marsha Sargeant, Stacey Daughters, John Curtin (University of ...
You did not read my response very carefully. The point I made is that the defining feature of schizoid personality disorder is a lack of interest in interpersonal relationships. If the individual does not desire this and, as such, does not want to change it, the fact that it is different does not make it disordered. If the individual is distressed about the lack of relationships, they do not fit the diagnostic criteria for schizoid personality disorder. As such, the criteria appear to impose a belief system - people should want close relationships - on people who see the world differently, classifying them as disordered rather than simply different.
My lack of connection with the idea of not wanting close relationships has absolutely nothing to do with my perception of a distinction between personality types and personality disorders.
Michael D. Anestis, Ph.D.
Schizoid personality disorder: Does it truly qualify as a mental illness?
by Michael D. Anestis, M.S. In the early weeks of each semester, as I am teaching Abnormal Psychology to undergraduates, I almost invariably encounter at least one student who raises concerns that our system of classifying mental illnesses simply places labels on people for being different. ...
Considering sex differences in death by suicide
Posted Feb 11, 2012 at Psychotherapy Brown Bag
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Distress tolerance in antisocial personality disorder and psychopathy
Posted Feb 3, 2012 at Psychotherapy Brown Bag
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New study considers therapeutic relationship and introject in dialectical behavior therapy and community treatment by experts
Posted Jan 28, 2012 at Psychotherapy Brown Bag
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Long-term psychodynamic psychotherapy: Discussing the evidence
Posted Jan 25, 2012 at Psychotherapy Brown Bag
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Bob Leahy responds to bizarre psychoanalytic tirade
Posted Nov 23, 2011 at Psychotherapy Brown Bag
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Website on Emotion Regulation
Posted Sep 13, 2011 at Psychotherapy Brown Bag
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The future of therapy: Actually reaching people in need
Posted Sep 13, 2011 at Psychotherapy Brown Bag
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Predicting the likelihood of particular treatment outcomes for specific clients
Posted Sep 7, 2011 at Psychotherapy Brown Bag
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Treatment manuals do not damage therapeutic alliance in treatment of youths
Posted Aug 28, 2011 at Psychotherapy Brown Bag
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