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Being a Muslim woman - Nonie Darwish http://www.pinoytambaygroup.com/index.php?topic=101860.0
Pam In August 2005 I wrote this The Freedom of the Burqa http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2005/08/freedom-of-burqa.html
People like Manji, know the evil of Islam but continue to be Muslims. They do not leave Islam, thus the only conclusion is that they are practising Taqqiya, while the deadly demographic Jihad continues till it means the end of the West. In effect, they are enablers of our destruction, for they forestall any meaningful opposition to Islam. The interesting thing about Irshad Manji is when she is pressed as to why she does not leave Islam, considering all she knows of Islam, replies in an apologetic and devious way, that there are many good things in Islam and she hopes for a more peaceful interpretation of the Koran or a Reformation. On both counts, she knows that this is not possible. As long as she continues to define herself as a Muslim, hers is just a siren song beguile the West. I think we would be far better relying on Ali Sena of Faithfreedom.org, when he states that Islam is unreformable or redeemable.
Let them have their 9/11 mosque does not mean that they will have the money to build it. The 9/11 mosque is now so toxic that even the Saudis, what with their close association to the 9/11 Jihadis, will like to give money to this mosque. What then for the 9/11 mosque? It will be sitting there just as a plan. The land is now blighted for a mosque, as even the imam should realise by now, that the mosque at GZ is not good for Islam (that is the most important criteria for any Muslims). He and his associates will be stuck with land that they do not have the money to build on, and if they do, will be a indictment of Islam. In such a situation it will be a buyers market. They will be lucky of they do not loose a lot of money. Just thoughts.
What we have now is a choice If the Islamists don't have their GZ mosque they will exploit their victimhood, and the Left will join them in it; they will also gain financially from it. This is not a good long term outcome.. OTH, if they have their mosque at Ground Zero, they are going to find it increasingly difficult to get the remainder money, as even the Saudis will realize the toxic nature of this particular mosque, and its direct association with Saudis in the 9/11 attack. So I say, let them have GZM, and then lets see the reaction to Islam and the building of more mosques in America. The GZ mosque could well be the high level mark of Islam in America.
This is biting though Dennis Miller Weighs in on Ground Zero Mosque; Does His Rendition of “Call to Prayer” – Vid http://weaselzippers.us/2010/08/19/dennis-miller-weighs-in-on-ground-zero-mosque-does-his-rendition-of-“call-to-prayer”-–-video/
A great video here SALT IN THE WOUND written by Rita W. Jones http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-dPSh--CHU&feature=player_embedded via http://weaselzippers.us/
At an Iftar dinner in the White House, Barack Hussein Obama proclaimed that he supports the building of the Ground Zero mosque as part of his "unshakable commitment to religious freedom". Which of course sounds very noble and good, until you ask a single question, Where is the religious freedom in the Muslim world? Obama has made the case for Islam in America, on the grounds that America's religious diversity promotes the religious freedom of all. Islam no less than any other belief system. Yet if introducing Islam into America promotes religious freedom, then why is there no religious freedom in the Muslim world? Why are churches firebombed in Malaysia because Christians presumed to use the word Allah? Why are non-Muslims forbidden to enter the city of Mecca, from which Jews and Christians were ethnically cleansed by Mohammed? Why are Coptic Christians being oppressed and humiliated by the Egyptian government? Why are Muslims murdering Buddhist teachers in Thailand? There are a thousand examples, all of which add up to a single conclusion-- Muslims demand religious freedom, yet are not willing to give it to others. This has ominous implications for the prospects of religious freedom in America. Nor is this a theoretical issue. Jews are fleeing European cities in record numbers because of Muslim persecution. The recent case of Malmo, highlights the fact that Islam actually threatens religious diversity. Simply to protect themselves, Malmo's 650 Jews were forced to spend half a million Kronor a year. The situation is much the same across Europe, as Jewish institutions are forced to become fortresses. What the Nazis did not succeed in accomplishing in Europe, the rise of Islam seems to be doing. Nor are Christians safe, they are simply in the majority for now. But Christians and other religions were once in the majority in the Middle East. Until they were massacred and repressed by the tidal wave of Islam. Today the religions that were once a majority, whether it is Jews in Israel, Christians in Byzantium or Zoroastrians in Persia, have become oppressed minorities. Some may take comfort in the notion that "It can't happen here." But the fate of Europe's Jews, shows that it can happen here. And that it is happening here. http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2010/08/islam-means-end-of-religious-freedom.html Zoroastrians in Persia, or Christians in Byzantium, for all practical purposes, has been wiped out in their original native lands. John Wesley, " Such was, and is to this day, the rage, the fury, the revenge, of these destroyers of human kind".
Just the Facts, Imam Just the facts, Imam. A Muslim terrorist attack damaged a building, allowing Muslims to pick it up for a fraction of the price, in order to build a mosque on the spot. Some people might say that sort of thing is tacky. A little like coming by to make an offer on the house, after your cousin murdered the entire family who lived there. Sure, you might claim that you're not responsible, but it just doesn't look good. Especially once you start palling around with your cousin, and suggesting that maybe he was just misunderstood. And maybe that family brought it on themselves. http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2010/08/just-facts-imam.html
Boudlal decided to try wearing the head scarf to work after becoming a U.S. citizen in June .. That is the case everywhere. Muslims will keep silent till they have citizenship and are sure they are not going to be thrown out of the country, before they start the Jihad. There will come a time that we all will have to choose whether Western nations want to stay liberal democracies or become sharia nations. At that time we will have to make hard choices. In France, Pres Sarkozy for instance, has already given a hint that those who violate the principles on which France is founded on, will have their citizenship revoked, and then forcibly removed from France. Of course such a situation is when the nation is under extremus i.e., existential war.
A great speech BILL WHITTLE: IN UNDERSTANDING THE GROUND ZERO MOSQUE ONE MUST UNDERSTAND APPEASEMENT ENCOURAGES OUR ENEMIES ....... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg_iDPRud_c&feature=player_embedded#at=602 See it and post it elsewhere
A Mosque in New York for a Christian Church in Mecca Pajamas Media 16 August 2010 By Leon de Winter The principal mosque in Rome has a surface area of 30,000 square meters and can hold thousands of believers. The Christian church of Mecca has a surface area of zero square meters and can hold zero believers. In fact, there is no Christian church in Mecca. In other words, Rome is an open city and Mecca is a closed city. http://europenews.dk/en/node/34618 But that will never ever happen. Muslims are welcome to build their mosques over churches but Christians in Muslim nations are not allowed to even renovate a church. Once the church becomes unsafe, Muslim authorities can then shut it down on 'Health and Safety' grounds.
The GMZ controversy is not about the GMZ mosque, or even the triumphalist proclamation of Islam on the site of its first North American victory, but an opportunity for keeping Islam preeminent in the public eye. That is always the objective for all Muslims, Always. Obama may backtrack now, but that is not the point. He has succeeded in raising the profile of Islam to the highest international level, which was never there in the first place. He can now withdraw his comments, as his main purpose has been accomplished. The best way forward is to seize the opportunity that the GMZ proponents have created to raise Islam, and use it to expose the reality of Islam. As they say, "never let a crisis go to waste.
At the time of 9/11, I wrote that 9/11, far from being a disaster for Islam, would turn out to be a publicity coup for it. So it turned out. We are now in a similar situation. If the GZM proponents win their case, and build the mosque, it would be seen in the wider Islamic world, that allah had yet again granted a tremendous victory to Muslims. If OTH, the said mosque has to shift its location, or is cancelled altogether, then CAIR and all the other Islamic groups will be crying "foul", and seeking sympathy - Islam is being victimized. Either way, this crisis is going to be milked for all it’s got. The real aim of the controversy though, like 9/11 itself, is to keep Islam right up there on the national and international agenda, i.e., making Islam pre-eminent, and the focus for all attention. Obama, willingly or unwittingly, has made this objective a reality, turning a NY city issue to an international one. The more this controversy rages and polarises the America people, the greater a publicity disaster for the West this, and great propaganda boost for Islam. It would appear that we are going to lose this battle either way. Not necessarily so. What some of the opponents have to do, is to seize this opportunity to tell the truth about Islam. That is, use the propaganda opportunity that has been created by Islamists to defeat their real purpose, of publicising for Islam – not just stop it but turn it against Islam. If some of the opponents can do this, the GZM proponents will themselves halt the controversy. The GMZ controversy is not about the GMZ mosque, or even the triumphalist proclamation of Islam on the site of its first North American victory, but an opportunity for keeping Islam preeminent in the public eye. That is always the objective for all Muslims. Obama may backtrack now, but that is not the point. He has succeeded in raising the profile of Islam to the international plane, which was never there in the first place. He can now withdraw his comments, as his main purpose has been accomplished. The best way forward is to seize the opportunity that the GMZ proponents have created to raise Islam, and use it to expose the reality of Islam (Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer alert). As they say, "never let a crisis go to waste".
This claim that the holy city is a "zero magnetism zone" has won support from some Arab scientists like Abdel-Baset al-Sayyed of the Egyptian National Research Centre who says that there is no magnetic force in Mecca. "That's why if someone travels to Mecca or lives there, he lives longer, is healthier and is less affected by the earth's gravity," he said. "You get charged with energy." --------------------------------------- So far it was thought it was the Koran and its tenets, that was keeping the Islamic world in a state of medieval barbarism. But this scientific discovery sheds new light. Its not the Koran but lack of magnetic field, as well as reduced gravity (how a zero magnetic field reduces gravitation, is a topic that must be researched asap), that is responsible. Maybe Obama can ask NASA to look into this.
We all get along fine. Its simply a matter of drawing the line.
Also worth reading Transformer A crunch is coming to a country near you; has already come to several countries in Europe; is likely to transform the entire Western world within the space of our lifetimes. It will obviate all the trends to which we have become accustomed. But while I have no doubt of this, I have no idea what will emerge from it. Human beings cannot see the future, except perhaps prophetically under divine inspiration. We can see such rational things as "three into two won't go," and easily predict the catastrophe itself. We have not only an impending fiscal collapse, but escalating "culture wars" that will be resolved one way or another. http://www.davidwarrenonline.com/index.php?id=1142
It is not as dispiriting as it looks. In my own experience, women themselves are getting a little afraid, that with men taking a back seat, they may have to confront the barbarians. They realise that they just do not have the testosterone, to do so. In any case, Muslim men do have any respect for women. On another occasion, I was in a discussion with some 6 women. I was the only male. When things got heated, unknowingly I became aggressive. It must have been my body language, but to my surprise, they responded quite meekly. I quickly resumed my normal gentle manner. Since then, its all been quite lovely - as it should be.
Paging Col Allan West. Please have a word with Glenn Beck.
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The Koran should be read from back to front.
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JJ The EU has been successful because it has kept out of the limelight. They rule from behind the curtain. The EU got greedy though. Not content with ruling from behind the curtain, they wanted the adulation as well. I believe this has been a mistake. The EU will become unpopular, as our own politicians, afraid for their future, will point the finger at the EU. There is much that is going to go wrong, and the EU will catch the blame. Now JJ, it seems black at the moment, but if we lose the hope that we will win, then we will have lost anyway. I have greater fear for the USA - unlike Europe, it has nothng intrinsic to secure it.
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JJ EU laws are just paper laws, made without any consultation with the people of Europe. EU laws are therefore just like the EU itself, a paper organisation fully staffed with placemen and bureaucrats, who will fold like a house of cards at the first whiff of powder. What encourages me in this view is what happened when Italians decided to take their anger out on the Roma, when a Roma had raped and murdered an Italian woman (European and EU citizens). Italians wanted them out, and set about twisting the Italian government. The government, wholly committed to the EU took fright, and started the deportations. Meanwhile the EU, which should have called the troops out against Italians, or warned the Italian government against any such action, simply kept its head down. They realized that if they interfered, they would be held responsible, and unlike the Italian government, Italians have even greater contempt for the EU. We will pull out of this the moment we start a fire.
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"To them, we no longer exist.. Writer Malika Sorel's pro-France and pro-nationhood positions are unusually lucid and surprisingly candid. She stands far removed from many other Algerians in France who regularly manifest their hatred of their host country. Recently she wrote an assessment of a meeting of European ministers organized by the French Minister of Immigration and National Identity, Eric Besson. Read more about Malika Sorel a the end: Yesterday morning I attended a ministerial seminar organized by Eric Besson on the theme "The migrations in the lands of the Mediterranean: constructing a space of shared prosperity". Insofar as many journalists covered the seminar, I feel safe in sharing with you a few high points. The ministers of Cyprus, Greece, Spain, Croatia, Malta, Montenegro, Morocco, and Egypt were among the guests. One expert set the tone right away by declaring that since the European population was aging, three possibilities ensued. I quote them: 1. We delay the age of retirement. Not a very popular measure. 2. We put more women in the workplace. That would have a negative effect on the birth rate. 3. We organize international migrations. And with these words, obviously intended to allow the ministers to begin their well-prepared speeches, the main theme of the morning was set: since the North was not producing children, and the South producing many (they actually said it), it was necessary to agree to organize migratory waves from the South to the North. Several ministers even declared that since immigration, in any case, was occurring illegally when it was not authorized, it would be preferable to legalize and organize it. They also said that 75% of the youth of Tunisia were considering leaving their country. http://galliawatch.blogspot.com/2010/01/to-them-we-no-longer-exist.html Read it all.
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The Left can lay its plan, and the Islamics may think that they have our measure, but it will all come to naught. Think of Europe as a tectonic zone - not geographically, but of the moral, technological, philosophical, in short, of the mental kind. Europe can be regarded as a fault zone of the tectonic + volcanic zone of the mind. The evidence is all around you. For the last two thousand years, all innovation in all fields have come from the tectonic zone that is the collective European mind - be it progress of the benign kind, scientific, technological, political, artistic or social, or the brutally efficient means of war. This change and upheaval has come at ever increasing pace, leading to upheavals of the social climate, brought about by the tectonic nature of the collective European mind. It has led to a people that adapts quickly to ongoing change. Islamics and other non-Europeans, do not have that ability to adapt to rapid change, as they never were in such a situation. The evidence can be seen in ALL non-European countries – all change has been brought about by European culture in the last 100 years. Europe (I don’t mean just geographically) is therefore quite a unique place. The scale and frequency of wars in Europe are simply a consequence of the generally dangerous nature of life in a tectonic/volcanic zone. The European tectonic zone is not a place for hidebound conservative people. Muslims, for all their penchant for violence, are essentially a simple and conservative people, clinging to age-old traditions. If Moses could come back, he would recognise the Islamic mind and people, but have no clue who we are. Muslims will not survive in this place that they are coming to, in much the same manner that an animal from the tropics will not survive in Polar Regions. Europe, i.e., the European zone created by the collective European mind, is a very dangerous region, whether it is in Europe, the Americas or wherever.
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JJ The Mediterranean Union, came into being around 2008. As far as I can see, it is not just Arab states that border the Med that are a part of the Euro-Med, but it includes Sudan and Somalia as well. Then there is also the matter of Turkey, with its 80 million + Muslims, and we have all the ingredients for a lovely war. Here is a link to UP Pompeii that has been covering this issue for a while. http://uppompeii1.uppompeii.com/2008/07/15/euromed-become-the-mediterranean-union--le-pleur-cock-up-du-monde.aspx Myabe that is what this is all about - a big huge war to get rid of the accumalated detritus of not havong a proper war for over 60 years. The Left and Greens are also very keen on a sustainable human population - the present population size being deemed too large for sustainability. I hope though that prevailing human greed, lust for power, and "what I have I hold", will upset the social engineer's calculations.
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