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Haha! Jeez. I've already said most of what I wanted to say about Thrasher. Why have you not banned him yet? Keeping him around for sheer entertainment purposes?
Toggle Commented Aug 31, 2010 on The Thrasher Thread at Cobb
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Bill Richardson on Government and Rights Senator Bernie Sanders On Government and Rights Taxes are voluntary and they are not voluntary Reid "Taxation Is Voluntary"
Toggle Commented Aug 5, 2010 on The Morality of Taxation at Cobb
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"Thrasher said in reply to Cobb... I have always argued these other groups have rode on our back and now in this century they should do the hard work and Black folks should leave the civil rights arena and start to enrich and expand our interests in the marketplace.." ... Cobb said in reply to Thrasher... Yes because no black person has any business dedicating their life to doing anything for anyone but black people. Of course not Cobb. You already know how this works. He said the magic words: Black folks should Black folks should Black folks should http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deontological_ethics Deontological ethics or deontology (from Greek δέον, deon, "obligation, duty"; and -λογία, -logia) is an approach to ethics that judges the morality of an action based on the action's adherence to a rule or rules. Deontologists look at rules and duties. It is sometimes described as "duty" or "obligation" or "rule" - based ethics, because rules "bind you to your duty." The term "deontological" was first used in this way in 1930, in C. D. Broad's book, Five Types of Ethical Theory. Deontological ethics is commonly contrasted with consequentialist or teleological ethical theories, according to which the rightness of an action is determined by its consequences. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teleological_ethics Consequentialism refers to those moral theories which hold that the consequences of a particular action form the basis for any valid moral judgment about that action (or create a structure for judgment, see rule consequentialism). Thus, from a consequentialist standpoint, a morally right action is one that produces a good outcome, or consequence. This view is often expressed as the aphorism "The ends justify the means". Consequentialism is usually understood as distinct from deontology, in that deontology derives the rightness or wrongness of an act from the character of the act itself rather than the outcomes of the action, and from virtue ethics, which focuses on the character of the agent rather than on the nature or consequences of the action itself.
Toggle Commented Jul 23, 2010 on Post Western Philosophy at Cobb
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVzGM99ZIMQ
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I'm amazed someone actually took the time out of their day to send you hate mail Thrasher. Your story is baffling, but the police chief was probably just trying to get you and your epic nonsense out of his face. "Um, yeah, we ran the forensics and um, this was probably just some black guy messing with you." *pat on the head* "Gee thanks chief! I knew it was those nefarious Uncle Toms! Scrooby Dooby Doo!" Ah, I'm only kidding with you here. You did sound a bit testy though. Besides, I'm not the one waking up in cold sweats from postal-service-induced paranoia about shadowy groups of Uncle Toms who are out to get me. See? I can keep it real too. Plus, a random black guy trolling you with strongly-worded letters in the mail would just be hilarious. Like an episode of Punk'd. (Heh, maybe it's someone who took major offense to your crusty ass calling them an "unca tawm" online, and now they're sending you threats in the mail! That would also be funny.) Anyway, I'm trying to teach you through example that it's annoying when you get consistently targeted for attack by someone in a comment thread by attacking you as consistently as you attack ol' Cobbski here. If he isn't going to ban you, then this is a lesson that has to take place. (Or, you could just stop being an asshole, but I doubt that'll happen. You know, the pride thing.) As a commenter, you're fun. We have a good time. To be a bit more serious though, I find it both sad and ironic that you'd sit here are toss around cliched archaic pejoratives like UT while waxing noble on "black beauty." For to long I have avoided writing and having a dialouge about the critical issue of the image of Black males in our nation. On a number of levels I did not want to have this critical discourse in a nation that has such a nasty racial legacy against Black folks and of course Black men. I know this culture seeks to leverage Black folks against Black folks. I know this culture champions the seeds of divison and internal conflict between the various intersections of Black life in our nation. Okay, with you so far. Now, what shall we do about this? So from this point forward in every moment, every situation, every awkward incident, every first impression, every second in lives of Black men a change must take place. WE must make a life altering change in the image of Black men that is observed, reflected, in our interactions with the world. Shos you right Thrasher! Preach bruh! Preach! In every first impression in the lives of Black men, a change must take place! Oh wait, what about your own first impressions of black men?! Forget about first impressions of black men; you're well beyond that. You have entire theories about people you've never even met. Like whole intellectual frameworks about what pisses them off: I have an opinon that upsets Cobb as to why he enjoys being a special negro ..I think in part it is common reaction to the oppressive nature of white supremacy a person who values thier personhood instinctively defends one's self yet instead of developing a harded self worth independent of the oppressor folks like Cobb seek to represent to the oppressor they are not like the other victims but special and as such they warrant a special relationship wiith the oppressor since they are not like the usual negroes and coloreds.. Talk about "awkward situations". How charming this is when placed next to your soaring rhetoric about, "Black must become beautiful once again." "Can Black become beautiful again?" Yeah, if you shut up and quit talking about it the way you do! You are too clever by half Thrash.Your idea about how to make "black beautiful" is to say how not black someone is in the ugliest terms at the drop of a hat. You revel in it. Your "first impression" of me was that I was white, LOL. Just blind assumptions. Of course, the fact that you have special reserved words which apply only to ideologically insubordinate black people undermines your entire poetic argument. There are inherent perils in pursuing this narrative and transformative posture.Yet in spite of the risks I must undertake this mission. My community must take on this assignment. Spoken like a true adherent of the gospel of the Deontological School of Blackness! Marching as a soldier in this impossible and unmanageable matrix of mores and expectations! A regular Joan of Arc. Duty-bound at every turn! Witness the obligations. Witness the insanity of a single ethic applied to forty-plus million so-called "black" people in the US! Everything compulsory; everything that is antithetical to Freedom proper! Dissenters kept in check by rotten buzzwords which spring up naturally from the foundation of the original problem. Pure sweet unvarnished stupidity!
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Thrasher, your presence here is valuable in the same way that a court jester's presence is useful to onlookers: much-needed comic relief. You are hilarious, I'll give you that much.
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Thrasher, the only thing I want you to know is that you are objectively too stupid to be commenting here. Chauncey was the one who inserted Eurocentrism into the discussion. If you think that's dumb then take it up with him.
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C D said in reply to Cobb... If afrocentrists are "racist" are the eurocentric philosophers you praise and worship also racist? What are the names of these "Eurocentric philosophers" you claim he praises and worships, and how are they "Eurocentric"? Are you referring to these guys he listed from the other thread? Cobb said in reply to Subrealism.blogspot.com... Oakeshott, Chesterton, Strauss, Hayek, Ferguson, Taleb, Hanson, Brooks, Hitchens, Barnett. These are the thinkers I've been talking about for years. If you want to talk about talk radio then Medved, Prager, Miller and Hewitt. Explain what you mean by "Eurocentric philosophers" in this context.
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Chauncey Devega said... Please tell me, why do you work so hard to be that special negro that conservatives love so much? Thrasher said in reply to Chauncey Devega... I have an opinon that upsets Cobb as to why he enjoys being a special negro .. See, this is why nothing ever gets discussed in detail during Race Week. We get bogged down in these stupid psychological evaluations and speculations about how Cobb (or some other person) is trying to ingratiate himself to "dem white folk." Instead of trying to figure out why the other guy thinks the way he does, you launch into a series of pointless psychological indictments. We have literally beat this trope to death. It's dumb and it takes us off topic. Look at all the good questions you skipped over because of this. Let's get back to something tangible. Cobb said in reply to C D... Let me also ask you on that 'Eurocentric' question. On what basis would you judge the institutional defense of liberty? The institutional defense of liberty is a funny thing in every society. I think we can all agree that the evaluative judgment criteria which assesses its effective execution varies significantly according to the specific circumstances of the case and the historical time period. Socrates was put to death for "corrupting the youth" of Athens. What does that say about the the institutional defense of liberty in ancient Greece? The lesson is that institutions very often get it Wrong. Athens putting ol' Socrates to death; Rome feeding the upstart Christians to the lions; America enslaving imported Africans for four hundred years; damn Nazis trying to take over ze World. All of these were instances of institutional assholery which were very Wrong and very sanctioned by the Prevailing Order of their respective times and places. On this question, the most basic and well-known example of social commentary delivered as an evaluative assessment of America's institutional defense of liberty is Frederick Douglass' Fourth of July Speech, The Meaning of July Fourth for the Negro. The so-called institutional defense of liberty is easily diagnosed as hypocrisy by Frederick Douglass on a fourth of July in the mid 1800s. Obvious hypocrisy is obvious, and it just gets obvious-er as you travel back on the socio-historical timeline. Let's tackle "Eurocentrism" next.
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Thrasher, I honestly think you would make more sense if you just slammed your head against the keyboard and clicked 'Post'. No one here cares about your self-flattering unsolicited list of personal accomplishments. You scatter-brained sycophant you. Is this second grade caliber oneupsmanship all you're capable of or should we hold out for a spurt of inexplicable lucidity coming from your Dunce Hat covered cranium?
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Folks like me? O_o I'm not here to "get a reaction". The funniest reaction you can get is when he actually bans someone. I would certainly laugh at you getting banned, but very few have been banned from here. There have been two, maybe three at the most. I know Chance was one, cnulan was the other. Probably multiple bans and re-bans for cnulan but that's only because he's cnulan. Chance got the greatest (and most hilarious) reactions, because towards the end he was pretty much batshit insane. Search the blog. Anyway, there have been much, much worse than you. Cobb and Nulan are like the Rocky Balboa and Ivan Drago of this site. (Nulan is Drago because he's always trying to "break" Cobb.) Despite that, it's not about "dominating". You talk about your impact in a comment thread the same way that a color commentator would talk about a basketball star's performance in an NBA game. (Kobe is totally dominating the Suns here Steve! He sure is Jim! That's you right now.) Plus, Cobb seems to love his critical interlocutors when they can debate coherently and compellingly. I think at one point he said that EC and Dell (and BB/DS) were the only reason he was sticking around at the so-called "Cobb project".
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Also: Come on man. It's clear that Thrash isn't the most sophisticated debater on the interwebs and has little regard for our Chattering Class scholasticism. It's all a perpetual game of Oneupsmanship and who can textually "pwn" the other in the comment thread with him. I've seen a good number of super solid critics of yours here, and Thrash is demonstrably unqualified to be on the second string of the junior varsity edition of that team, let alone the water boy. DarkStar, brotherbrown, cnulan, DMG, A. Charles, EC, (oh hell, even Chance): These are the Cobb critics who have been doing it better and much longer than ol' Thrash. He hasn't even read Nulan's greatest hits. Let him stick around a bit and see how it's done. Then, again, maybe he needs to lurk more. Lurk more Thrash.
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LOL. That's his last name Cobb. It's in the freep link he posted in the other thread.
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"The Tea Party is pointed in the right direction." What's your definition of the so-called "Tea Party"? Perhaps a brief summary of who you think its main constituents are?
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Ha! Jeez.
Toggle Commented Jul 21, 2010 on Obama Gonna What? - Racism at Cobb
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So I'm guessing you also missed the Tim Wise post that spawned it. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2010/07/what_if_the_tea_party_was_blac.html http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150151948920459
Toggle Commented Jul 21, 2010 on Obama Gonna What? - Racism at Cobb
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P.S. Cobb, did you catch this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtH7vH4yRcY
Toggle Commented Jul 21, 2010 on Obama Gonna What? - Racism at Cobb
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Well, no one can accuse you of lacking self-confidence Thrash.
Toggle Commented Jul 21, 2010 on Obama Gonna What? - Racism at Cobb
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Whew! This thread feels like old times you guys! Anyway, all of this is pretty sad. In my years here I've learned that no one beats up on Cobb like cnulan, and I wish Thrasher would search this blog for some of his old posts and cease engaging in the Excoriating Activity which CNu does much much better (and with a respect for the spell checker!). Ugh. Funny about the timing of this USDA official video. NAACP calls out the so-called Tea Party. Random video of USDA official speaking to some local NAACP surfaces soon afterward. *facepalm.gif* "Tit-for-tat" seems apt. Hey, was there a thread about the NAACP calling out the Tea Partiers?
Toggle Commented Jul 20, 2010 on Obama Gonna What? - Racism at Cobb
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It's the duty-based perspective which drives the instinct to capitalize. He may not be prosthelytizing in the streets, but he's coming at you pretty hard-body in this thread. Recall that the competing agendas in the NSBE story were completely lost on Thrasher. He dismissed those divisions as irrelevant because they were related in an anecdote and then proceeded to list his own anecdote with zero sense of contradiction. He draws conclusions based upon the Irreverence for Duty he perceives in your statements of disbelief regarding black unity and conflates it with the erroneous charge of active promotion of black dysfunction on your part: I don't understand how a Black person would have reservations about Black Unity such a declaration reflects the mindset of an underdevloped thinker.. I guess having Black disunity brings some value to this backward mantra...Must be a aspect of low Black esteem the need to have Black disunity to elevate oneself for validation and affirmation to white folks.. Because you have a disbelief in the obligatory unity construct—your witnessing of real divisions and competing agendas among so-called black people be damned—you are therefore a promoter of black dysfunction. You are therefore seeking the approval of white folk. We've been through this, many, many times. I believe we've kicked this trope around dozens of times in the past few years and I don't see anything new being added.
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I think this is yet another example of the wild division in priorities between those who operate out of the deontological school of blackness versus the teleological school. "Black Unity" is a more a moral obligation in this instance, and less a set of physical institutions focused on ends, goals, and consequences. I'm guessing you aren't going to get a concrete example of black unity in which some institution or other is cited as a living example. He said that he and some other people in his area were able to get more black lawyers on staff in the office he mentioned, but I suspect that "black unity" in this instance (Thrasher's instance) would better defined as one or more duties which are thought to be incumbent upon certain individuals by virtue of their inferred ancestry. Not one or more institutions which we could point to, but an overarching moral obligation. Since there is no official guidebook for what constitutes unity or disunity, we are left only with the vague, elemental exhortation of, "Be United!" I still maintain that the duty-bound, deontological school of blackness can only describe "black unity" in the vaguest of terms, hence the aversion to economics, or specifics.
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Black Unity of course is a complex theme which involves a number of positions, interferences, politics, culture, as well as economics. The text in the image tells Hildredth that he is "the exception", "holding down a job" like his "in a white firm." What is "black unity"? Or, talk about "black unity" in the context of Chauncey Warringham Hildredth III, Esq.
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Of course I'm referring to the text in the Negro Digest image.
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So is that struggle over? Can Hildreth and his children just be Hildreth and his children? Discuss. What a condescending, hamfisted, economically ignorant, vapid block of text. Don't blame Hildreth for the insanity of primitive America.
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"The Racist History of Conservatism"—? I don't get it. What is there to be found in the Racist History of Conservatism that we could not extrapolate out into a Racist History of America-in-general? How has conservatism been anymore racist throughout history than, say, the Federal government?
Toggle Commented Apr 13, 2010 on The 'Racist' History of Conservatism at Cobb
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