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Computer virus analogy to UM football...classic!
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Jorge. First off, at this time of the year, what else would you like to discuss concerning UM football? If you don't like it, don't read it. Second, being 9 deep at the U used to not matter. Kids came and made their bones on scout team or special teams until the guys above them graduated to the NFL and then it was their time to shine. That's why back in the days there was another RB, WR, DL taken in the 1st round EVERY YEAR. Every heard of injuries?? How did our RB corps look last year? Transfers...it seems like almost every year at least 1 WR, 1 RB and 1 DL transfer because of coaching changes, attitude issues or they just don't want to pay their dues. No one, especially Manny, ever said that we've never lost an athlete to Florida, we certainly have. But how many athletes from our backyard, the Miami area, have we lost to Florida that we really wanted? Before Ajagbe from Ransom it had been a LOOONGG time. How did FSU and Bama and OSU fare in the Miami recruiting wars? Not very well, until recently. What was once an anomoly is slowly becoming the norm. When the majority of our top targets mention the U as an afterthought, it's time to start paying attention to what these other schools are doing. And the only way to get rid of these schools is to start winning.
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You guys that think everything is fine need to stop drinking the Kool-Aid and need to start thinking logically. When our #1 RB target goes to a pipeline school like BTW and 3 former teammates are on the team, his former coach works for the U and the U isn't in his top 3....yea, that's a problem. After the debacle that was Bryce Brown, most of you were saying "don't worry...next year we have Clements and Gainer and Gore and Gio Bernard. Well it seems like Clements and Gainer could very possibly go up north, Bernard might go to the west coast and Gore doesn't sound like the U is lighting his world on fire. I'm happy to be making inroads in the Palm Beaches and Central Florida areas, as well as Georgia...but it's disappointing to have talent like what we have shun us. These kids are juniors, so probably 16-17 yrs old. They were about 8-9 years old the last time we won the NC and around 12-13 last time we fielded a decent team. In the long run, I guess it doesn't matter where your talent comes from, as long as your talent wins.
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You guys are misinterpreting what Manny is saying. What he's saying is that we're losing recruiting battles and a lot of schools are stealing kids from our backyards. Yes, with the amount of talent in SoFla and the amount of scholarships available, obviously a lot of kids are going to HAVE to go elesewhere to schools like Louisville and Rutgers and USF. Back in the days the U used to get whoever they wanted in SoFla and everybody else could get the U's "scraps". Nowadays there is top talent that Miami wants and needs that are electing to go elsewhere to play on saturdays. I'm not refering to schools like Western Michigan that have a pipeline to the 2nd tier talent at NMB or FIU that gets commits from wherever they can...I'm talking about schools like (barf) Ohio St that in recent years has stolen the top players from Hialeah (and btw there are 2 studs there this year) and they got Jamaal Berry from Palmetto, FSU and Bama got some nice athletes from ABC and South Dade, we can't land the kids from Columbus for whatever reason, and now a stud from freaking Ransom Everglades, which is all of maybe 3 miles away from the U, decides to commit to the Gators. I don't believe that these kids grew up in the U's backyard, but loved OSU and FSU and Bama and FU; it's more a case of "what have you done for me lately". Yes, I know that in our heyday our teams were made up with no-name 2 star kids...but you can't let the TOP talent from your own backyard go play for your worst enemy.
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Good to see that a lot of the local guys did well at the Nike Combine. Now Hurtt and the other coaches need to get after these kids to commit. This is ridiculously loaded class, even for SoFla standards
Toggle Commented Mar 30, 2009 on Spring game thoughts at Eye on the U
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Yes having a higher rated class would've been nice...but are you seriously going to cry over what grade rivals and scouts (which btw, check out the disparity in their grading systems)gives us? Worry about what we have and not what we coulda had...coulda woulda shoulda. Don't get me wrong, I would've loved to have BBs skills here, but not necessarily his heart. If it's any consolation Nemo, thats 1 more scholly for next year's class, which is better...and BTW, we wouldn't be anywhere near a BCS bowl game or NC with or without Bryce Brown.
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Lane Kiffin aka Urban Cryer 2.0 I can't imagine what Kiffin did to get him there...they'll be great for each other. One of TOS reported that Randy had told BB that they were no longer recruiting him. Anyone know if there's truth to that? BTW you guys are liars,Tennessee offered no such part-time assistant coach position to Brian Butler...they offered him the recruiting coordinator position
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Jeez...that kid flip flopped more times than John Kerry '04! It was the U, then Oregon was the flavor of the month while still being committed to the U, LSU then got a little love and at the last minute visited Tennessee, and as the most recent flavor of the month chose them over the rest. I think had he visited FIU last weekend he would've committed there. Enjoy playing for Lane Kiffin aka Urban Cryer 2.0. BTW, thanks for the link CanesFanStuckInNYC. I didn't notice Arthur Jr's reaction...altho he must've known BB's decision
Toggle Commented Mar 16, 2009 on Scrimmage highlights from Thursday at Eye on the U
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What a ridiculous year for SoFla football! Tons of great recruits that are within spitting distance from the U...plus sprinkle in a few from a little further away like Ogletree that grew up loving the U. A lot of positions of need for the U are right here... WR: Chris Dunkley, Josh Reese, Michaelee Harris, DeJoshua Johnson, McCartney plus Dunbar already commited RB: Giovanni Bernard, Jahkari Gore, Gainer, Corvin Lamb, Clements DL: Nix, Chandler, Calvin Smith and Lemonier from Hialeah, Delvin Jones, Lynden Trail Get 4 receivers, 2 or 3 RBs, and abunch of them big uglies. We'' probably have to reach out of the fence we've built in order to get a QB, TEs and LBs, DBs...but i think there's enough of them out there that are smart enough to see what we're doing here and will want to come here. Hopefully guys like Luc, ogletree, Blake Bell
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Yea, I thought Adderly was gonna transfer out? Also, to call a 2 star recruit as a bust is a bit of a reach no?
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MiamiMoe: it's like that in every profession. A grunt does the dirty work and his superior, or his superior's superior gets the cred. From government, to the private sector, to sports. I think we have some truely unheralded recruiters, they make Randy's sell a lot easier. You really only heard about Randy having to sell and be in contact with some of the highly recruited out-of-towners that were basically a shot in the dark anyways.
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So Joyner's gonna be an Explorer. I thought I had read that he was a big FSU fan to begin with, plus now he's going to Columbus. We haven't really had any luck recruiting their players lately anyways...hope Randy AND Hurtt and CO. can pull it off.
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dlu: I agree with you that there is definitely some dead weight taking up a scholly, but wouldn't "telling certian people transfer, or keep a non football scholarship and get on with your education" go against one of the basic principles of the U that we are a family? I'm all good with getting rid of the knuckleheads and the problem kids, but RS has seemingly already trimmed that fat. To tell an underachiever he's gotta go just because he isn't as good as someone we want from next year's class is pretty hypocritical.
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Exactly...RS is the closer. The big time recruits, the kids that are on the fence...he goes into their houses, sits in their living rooms and tells their parents why they and their sons should join the U family. He delegates recruiting responsibilities to Hurtt and his other coaches and he closes the tough, important sales. "Coffee's for closers."
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And the coordinators and position coaches (even Swasey) get involved in the recruiting. The coaches recruit certain guys because of previous connections with a school (Whipple will try to establish a pipeline to the U at STA because of his son), or based on position, or geography (i.e. Lovett is suppossed to be good at recruiting the NE). Some of the recruiting sites show which coaches recruited which kids. Wes McGriff is the DB coach, and he recruited 3 guys (Shayon Green, Prince Kent and Brandon McGee), 2 of them are DBs. The 1 guy that he got that doesn't play his position is Green, and thats because they're from the same town in Georgia. If you look at Clint Hurtt, all of his commits and targets (except for 1) this past year were from Central Florida, North Florida and the Carolinas. The 1 target (Devon kennard) that wasn't from that area plays DE, which is the position Hurtt coaches.
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Seems like we'll be able to fill all our needs locally with the exception of 2 positions: TE and LB. We're gonna need to stretch outside of Miami-Dade and Broward to find them; Palm Beach has agood TE, but that's Gaytorland, and I think his teammate already commited to FU. Also, another 6' QB? That'll give us 3. Dunno if thats the answer when you play a pro-style. And 2 RBs out of Clements, Gore, Bernard, Gainer and yes even Lamb? It's gonna be tough..I know Jahkari is UM blood, but from what I've seen and read Clements, Bernard and Gainer look just as good if not better.
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Sarasota...one thing you forgot to mention (and I'm sure you're aware of but others are not) is that it's our freakin tax dollars paying for that jumbotron in Canesville, that should be going to the essential employees!
Toggle Commented Feb 11, 2009 on Days of Our Bryce update at Eye on the U
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PompanoCane: That is the ultimate knee-jerk-reaction... I understand that pulling his scholly would show that the U won't be taken hostage by an 18 year old, but it's not like the coaching staff is at his every beck and call. They are keeping their distance and letting him do his thing. Pulling a scholly is supposed to sever ties...why do that when you can just let it play out, you have nothing to lose. College football is politics (see "boosters")...pulling his scholly might be perceived as pretty offensive to his brother Arthur and might cause a rift with him and the staff (and in case you didn't know this...big bro Arthur was a true freshmen last year, you're really going to grill him over his 1st year? do you not have an ounce of patience??). Also, the U is trying to recruit a 2010 QB from Wichita that is supposedly "friendly" with the Brown bros and we don't necessarily want Wichita to become Tampa Plant part 2. And talk about taking someone hostage...Signing Day actually means the FIRST day to sign and you want these kids to make a decision as soon as the clock strikes midnight. The U might've been taken hostage had we not inked Lamar Miller AND Mike James, but thankfully, our coaches are smarter than that.
Toggle Commented Feb 11, 2009 on Days of Our Bryce update at Eye on the U
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dlu, I agree with you, about the coaching differences with Young and Shannon and the inexperience of the team...but Randy's gotta do a better job in the personnel department. I believe that stems from his lack of HC experience. If you look at it from top to bottom our team is lacking a lot of experience...from RS, to his position coaches, to recruiting, to the players. But it's obvious to see through the lack of experience and see that we have good coaches, good recruiters and good players on our team...they all just need to get on the same page and grow together. There will be growing pains, and hopefully by now we've gotten some of them out of the way, but I fully expect this team to do great things in the near future. I just hope the decision makers (AD, admin, boosters) see it the same way I do... I'd hate for them to get rid of RS too early and then the next coach to come along looks like a genius because of all the talent RS stockpiled...
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GoMiamiGo....I don't have a problem with holding judgement until you've been able to see the fruits of a person's labor, but your reasoning is pretty flawed. "...but to judge another person's experience without having any yourself in that persons line of work is out of pocket. Simple as that." Uh, yea...I've never been president of anything, and I know our past president didn't do a great job...I've never been a CEO, and I know that what some CEOs were doing was downright despicable...I've never been an NFL coach or GM, but I know that everyone that's held those positions in recent years for the Detroit Lions has sucked. "...this person must be doing something right if he is still in Division 1 college football after his many stops." Patrick Nix..coached D1 football before he got to the U and will coach D1 football again after his firing. Ty Willingham is out there somewhere. There are a plethora of other coaches who have had less than stellar coaching careers and they just keep on popping up in a new town, on a new sideline, calling the same crappy plays. Too many people out there, like yourself, hold these coaches in such high esteem and treat them with such reverance just because of the importance of their positions...oh, they MUST know what they're doing. BARF...get over it, at the end of the day they are all human and they make SUCKY decisions just like you or I...and you don't need to be a D1 coach to see that! GO CANES!!
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pay attenttion to the U: gotta agree...BB, his fam and Butler must know where he's going. But if BB signs his LOI now then no one is gonna pay for Butler's site! Butler just wants to profit as much as possible. If and when BB comes here...RS needs to keep him away from the U and from Bryce, if not, I can only imagine the sanctions. We can't have him anywhere around our program. Unfortunately, Butler is gonna ride Bryce's coattails for as long as possible, then jump on the next unsuspecting top prospect. I'm also a huge hockey fan...and there are similarities in this story and the story of former NHLer Mike Danton. His mentor was a wacked out youth/junior coach that brainwashed his star athletes to the point where these kids did everything and anything he said and he'd use their success to get a new stable of kids. Unfortunately he tagged along some of his athletes even into their pro careers. Allegations of sexual abuse, giving them alcohol and girls kind of set this story apart to a more disturbing level...but the similarities of grown men that use these unsuspecting kids and their families is really sad and needs to stop.
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Damn..you guys need to relax on this Bryce Brown saga. I get the feeling that the '#1 overall recruit' tag is getting a bit to his head. But his "mentor" is the real artist here...he's leeching off of this kid and riding him for everything he's got. He's gonna milk it for as long as he can and at the last minute let him sign. I think BB will be here in the end, but we need to work on making sure Butler doesn't follow him here and try to continue this into an NFL (or CFL) career. RS must be able to see through this kid's brainwashing and see that he truely is a good, religious kid (much like RS himself) in order to continue the recruiting process. If there's one thing we know, Randy can spot a bad apple and has no qualms about dumping them. btw, for all the haters out there saying this, i got 1 name for you...Terrell Pryor. As last year's #1 recruit he acted much like BB is acting now..and how'd he turn out?? Give these kids a chance on the field and then we'll see. Don't crucify them before they have a chance. And to that guy saying Arthur Brown is a jerk and sucks...you are an idiot! You obviously know nothing.
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very interesting... However, I wouldn't say recruiting is "in the rear view mirror"...recruiting is never done. Now they need to get on the 2010 class recruiting trail...lots of good kids out there (especially down here) that they need to seriously start locking up. I've been going through some of TOS and lots of '10 kids are piling up the offers. It's always a good selling point to be one of the schools that was there for the kids from the beginning, not jumping on the bandwagon late as insurance. Our 5 star DT (Louis Nix) just visited Urban Cryer...I wonder what sob story or lies he told him?? Settling on a DC, whether it be Randy or someone else, would be nice so they can already get in the homes of the next class of future Canes.
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Can we please leave Shayon Green at LB...I think we're pretty good at DE. Every 6'2"+ LB gets moved to DE, and we're pretty thin at LB. Nemo: Good point..once we start winning and start improving our young team you'll see that more of these highly sought after out-of-towners come in for serious visits, instead of simple flirtation or to get away from the miserable midwest/northern cold
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Disappointed 'cane fan: Gotta agree with AtlantaU. Also, most schools get the commits they get for 1 of 3 reasons: 1. the kid is enamored with the school (hometown kid or big name school) - the U 2. the kid wants PT right away (doesn't want to compete for spot nor redshirt)- 2nd tier D1 schools 3. the kid isn't that good and has to settle for whoever takes him - 2nd tier D1 schools, D2 schools, etc The U is example #1...we lockdown the local talent, get the kids that want to go to the U and then throw out some wildcard offers. We got all the local talent we targeted except for Webster, but he didn't want to be patient like some other kids and wait for his turn, if it ever came, and I can't blame him. Sure there was local talent that went elsewhere, but the U didn't target them because they didn't want to be here or because we didn't need them. It's always going to be hard to steal guys like Marcus Hall, Sheldon Richardson and Jelani Jenkins away from a top school, and although this wasn't a star-studded, sexy position (QB, WR, LB) heavy class like last year...it's still a damn good class that fills a lot of holes on our team. And we got some good players from areas outside our recruiting "fence"...Ray Ray, Dyron Dye, Bunche, Curtis Porter, Luther Robinson... And most importantly, we got the kids that WANT to be at the U!
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