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Greg Stiemsma is a better player than Kendrick Perkins this season. You may want to qualify that. Gran Torino does things that don't show up in stat books, like keep bynum out of the box and scoring easy points. The intimidation factor is underestimated too. Stiemsma is OK in general, a good shot blocker, and a decent rebounder. Whether he is a better player than KP is dubious.
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Shorty never gets any credit
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Does it get any better than Jackie Mac? I think not. Bob Ryan on occasion, perhaps.
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Rondo is one of the best players in the league, when he takes a mind to it, which is more often than not. Starting with that premise, you don't want anything coming back except an elite player. That ain't happening.
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I will concede some ground, minimal as it may be. Old Paul Pierce is a much better score than Old Larry Bird. Paul Pierce's body has held up well. Larry Bird's? Not so much. But if we compare the two in their primes. Larry could have dropped 50 on any given night without anyone really noticing. Paul Pierce really needed to have it going to have a chance at 50, and, once he did, still would have charged and turned the ball over at a high rate on his way to scoring 50 more than once a year. Again, for anyone who saw them both play, there is no debate.
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It's about like disputing that Magic Johnson was a better closer than Rajon Rondo.
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This point isn't even remotely disputable.
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I would submit that for contenders, KG and Ray Allen also have high value. Sure, their salaries come off next summer. But are we really gonna land a game-changing free agent?
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No one expects you to score more than 5 points per game. ++ Well, this is kind of complicated. Not expecting JO to score more than 5 points per game is a bit ridiculous. He is a better offensive player than perk, and that is about what perk scored. So all things equal, I would expect JO to score 7-12 in 18-28 MPG. Problem is any games he plays is a surprise, and having any expectations at all is almost as ridiculous as having no expectations re scoring. it is a catch 22.
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Privately, I'm betting Doc just can't wait for this season to be over. ++ I'm thinking the season is pretty close to over now
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was my 28 win prediction optimistic?
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100% of what? We don't really know what 100% of paul pierce gives us anymore at his age.
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This will probably surprise, but I learned to respect the pistons,especially after they stopped the Ls from threepeating. In any event,my main point was that the racist comments were actually initiated by DR, not Zeke
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and finally Said Bird: "A player of Isiah's stature should have known better because . . . everybody pays attention to a superstar's quotes . . . Rodman can blow off steam and nobody will notice." Bird said he knew Thomas was in trouble when he called twice. "I told him not to worry about it," Bird said. "I said one thing you'd better do . . . you'd better call Mom." Bird's mom is a big fan of Indiana University, Thomas' former school. Said Bird: "She always loved Isiah and thought he was the neatest little guard."
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Bird, famously, was double-teamed by Dennis Rodman and Isiah Thomas in the spring of 1987, fewer than two months after Campanis handed his career over to Ted Koppel. "He can't run with me, and he's slow," Rodman said. "Go ahead and tell Larry I said that. I don't think Magic gets the credit he deserves because Bird is white." Added Zeke: "I'd have to agree with Dennis. If he was black, he'd be just another good guy."
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MAY 30, 1987: Basketball player Dennis Rodman says of Larry Bird: "I don't see him as the greatest player in the game. I think it's because he's white. I think if he was black, they wouldn't say he was the greatest player."
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so really, it was all connected
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True . . . but Curiously, later in Bird’s career, after he led the Boston Celtics over the Detroit Pistons in the 1987 Eastern Conference finals, former Pistons forward Dennis Rodman said the only reason Bird had won three straight NBA Most Valuable Player awards “is because he’s white. That’s the only reason.” When told of Rodman’s comments, former Detroit guard Isiah Thomas agreed, saying, “If Bird was black, he’d be just another good guy.”
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speaking of dennis rodman and race, i believe the worm once said larry bird would have been "just another player" had he been black.
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Ah, where to start? Well, let's start with the word "consistent." Note my use of it and your failure to use it. Next, let's move to fact that the Mavs are built around Dirk, who started last season age 31 and is now 32. Ray Allen? Currently 36. KG? Currently 35, but will end the season 36.Tyson Chandler? 29. Totally changed the Mavs team. Prime of his career. Young legs. The Ls bigs didn't look so big all of a sudden. Speaking of KG and legitimate bigs, when do you suppose might be the next time he grabs 10 rebounds in a single game? February? When your point guard is your best rebounder, you are a team in serious trouble. I could go on ... and on. But, let's allow the professionals to do the talking: Who among us thought there even would be a Year 4 for this core group, let alone a Year 5? A starting lineup that includes a 33-year-old, a 34-year-old, a 35-year-old, and a 36-year-old? A point guard who commands scant respect as a face-the-basket scoring threat and who is a subpar free throw shooter? A bench that does not have a single player whose job description on his income tax form reads "Drop-dead jump shooter"? In the abstract, such a team would be given little chance of being so much as a .500 team, let alone a championship contender. Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, and Paul Pierce are still here, but time inevitably marches on, and the last May they were incapable of stopping Miami's own Big Three when it mattered. Regular-season mastery meant nothing as LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, and Chris Bosh combined to score 164 of the Heat's 195 points in Games 4 and 5 of a five-game Miami playoff triumph. Danny Ainge is in the same position the late Dave Gavitt was in 20 years ago, and we all know how that turned out. Larry Bird's back went out first. Then it was Kevin McHale's lower extremities. And that left Robert Parish, The Chief, to go it alone There were flashback nights for each of them, and when those nights coincided, the Celtics were still a force. But they lost to the younger Knicks in 1990, the younger Pistons in 1991, the younger Cavaliers in 1992, and the younger Hornets in 1993 before missing the playoffs in seven of the next eight years. The frustrating thing about being an aging player is that some nights it's still there, and someone can be deluded into thinking nothing has changed. But it is not there with the regularity that made someone a star. Allen and Garnett each have reached that stage. As an example, two years ago, Allen went from setting a record for 3-pointers against the Lakers one night to an 0-fer the very next game. Last May, KG went from a killer 28-point, marauder-on-defense Game 3 against the Heat to Just Another Guy status in the remaining two games. --Bob Ryan Ah, Mr. Ryan. As usual, he hits it on the head. Time marches on and 1986 became 1993. 2008, I might add, will soon become 2012.
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