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It's so funny how one person's draft treasure of a certain coveted player can be met with such opposing views from the next guy. I kind of liken it to the jury on a trial. Some jurors see the facts,evidence,witnesses and presentation as guilty and some say not. Posted by: Rob in OC | April 18, 2014 at 04:24 AM ================================================= Here's another case in point for you Rob. From Barry Jackson's Sports Buzz: Miami had some interest in Graham in the 2010 draft, but Tony Sparano loved John Jerry and Bill Parcells --- after consulting with Sparano and his scouts --- decided Jerry would be a better choice than Graham at No. 73. The Saints took Graham 95th, and Miami has regretted that decision ever since. =================================== No further questions your Honor.........I.........I.........I rest my case-LOL!
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But for some reason everyone thinks that CJ Mosley is such a good prospect coming out this year. I sure hope our GM doesn't think so. Posted by: The Woodshed Gang | April 18, 2014 at 01:27 AM ======================================================== Wow!!!! Woodshed, it's always a pleasure to talk Football with you. Next time were both on, fill me in on why you're so down on Mosley? Not arguing with you at all, though I do like Mosley.......to a degree. I see that were usually on the same side of a lot of issues. So this makes me especially curious as to why you feel the way you do. Let me know Bro!!!!
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If playing him as a rookie is the idea you better pray when he leaves the pocket the much quicker NFL MLB's don't catch him running towards a sideline. Posted by: fin4life | April 17, 2014 at 08:57 PM ================================================ I agree with this Fin4. I do have my reservations and concerns with Manzeil. The same as for most college QB's coming out. I did purposely go overboard in my critique, but it was just to get "Troll Bait's" goat. Troll Bait loves Manzeil and he fell for my rant **Hook - Line - And Sinker**-LOL~ I'm guilty, I admit it. But hey, he's so easy I couldn't resist putting the **Smack Down** on him!!!!
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Posted by: fin4life | April 17, 2014 at 08:04 PM ================================================ Excellent post as usual Fin4! The people claiming players come here and are worse are seeing a mirage. They blame it on the Coaching staff, but their missing the real issue. It can be laid at the feet of the Coaching Staff. But the real issue was/is playing these guys out of position. I just have to wonder how much say Ireland had in determining where these guys would play. How much of it was on SpOrano and/or Philbin? I also have to wonder how much of this....**SPECIFICALLY**......is Hickey aware of? I wonder where he stands on drafting and signing players to bring in and switch positions? I know it can work out at times. But our recent history has been nothing but trying to pound square pegs into round holes!
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Troll Bait wants to talk psychiatrics and blow up dolls on a Dolphin's Football Blog.........? That's real mature......and that's coming from: Odin-LOL~ Still, It won't change Manzeil's chances of making it in Canada. He **COULD** catch on with some team up there as a Back Up.................? Couldn't he............?
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I hope he likes snow, because Canada is the ONLY chance he'll have to play professional Football. Drunk or Sober, these are "Just The Facts Mam".
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Manzeil can't read a defense to save his life. He holds the ball way to long. Almost all of his success came on broken plays when he's running for his life. He's not going to make it like this in the NFL. That's not even mentioning his size and style of play, which will also contribute to his failure as an NFL QB. That's The Truth Ruth ;)
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Why should you care about some other Team drafting some other guy, odin? Are you vindictive? Posted by: oscar canosa | April 17, 2014 at 07:41 PM ==================================================== Where did I say I cared............? I said I could use the laugh.
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Manzeil has bust written all over him. He misses throws all over the place and often holds the ball way to long. Neither of which he'll get away with at the NFL level. A great guy to have on your sand lot football team. But he'll be lucky to be a starter in the Canadian Football League. I hope..........I HOPE like hell some idiot drafts him in the first round this year. My nerves are so bad on draft day, I could use the LAUGH!!!!
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I dunno Oscar. Carr is a Wildcard in his own right. He put up gaudy numbers that are hard to argue with. But he played in a pass happy, shotgun offense. Then, when you try to get an accurate assessment of the Kid, the stigma from his Brothers career comes tumbling in. He's a wildcard and I wouldn't want to put my job on the line for him. Very intriguing prospect though, I'll admit that.
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Odin, are u drunk? Posted by: Odin is Drunk | April 17, 2014 at 05:11 PM ===================================================== NOPE! But I **COULD** be under the influence of some VERY Good Pain Pills!!!!
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Texas, Everyone of Ireland's drafts made me sick at my stomach. For the first time in my life, I turned the draft off when Ireland took Tannehill over Kuechly. I've come to terms with Tannehill and root for him because he's our Guy. But Ireland just disgusted me with his cuteness and his over-thinking everything. You're exactly right too, he was always trying to be like Big Bill and find the acorns instead of the obvious! He even ALMOST won me over with his off season moves in 2013. But, they didn't pan out as hoped and then his entire draft class couldn't even get on the field!!!! The one good thing about it, is this year, it will seem like we have two draft classes at the same time. I expect a lot of last years class to be good, key components for this years squad.
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Woodshed, I like that strategy. I would LOVE a trade back in which we could get Sua-Filo. I believe he could be "plug and play" at Left Guard. Like you said, in a worst case scenario, Fox could handle Right Tackle. But I would Take Juwan James or even Mewhort, both of which I think could start pretty quickly, if not day 1. Then with the extra pick(s) from the trade back.......? We would be setting pretty-LOL!!!!
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Alves, I think Tannehill will succeed as long as we get the Line Fixed. From what I've seen of Tannehill, I don't think he needs a fantastic O-Line either. Just a decent one will be good enough in my opinion. Tannehill did get a lot of GREAT experience playing behind the worst O-Line in the History of the NFL. He had to make his reads fast, He had to get the ball out quick, he had to scramble and run for his life. All great experiences for a developing Quarterback. Now, after all that, put him behind a **DECENT** O-Line, and watch him Flourish!
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Texas, I agree with your entire post. The levity of which Hickey will be afforded is what gives me confidence. He can stay put if someone good falls. He can trade back and still have a bunch of excellent options. I like Mosley at 19. Sua-Filo in a trade back. Then there are quite a few excellent options for the O-Line in rounds 2 and 3. Where Ireland's drafts always confounded everyone, I see(Hope like Hell)Hickey's draft will be easier to follow. I expect his drafts to make a lot more sense than Ireland's.
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Lewan just might be Jonathan Martin as an NFL OT. If not, only slightly better. Time will tell, just hope he's not on our roster if its true. Posted by: SAM I AM | April 17, 2014 at 04:31 PM ================================================ I get your point, but NO WAY is Lewan anything like Martin. I hate to talk up Lewan, but when compared to Martin I have to. Lewan is tough, mean and nasty! He's EVERYTHING Martin is NOT! I would bet money that Lewan is easily better than Martin right now-TODAY! Despite Martin's NFL experience. Lewan has the mindset of a Conrad Dobler type. And that is one of the things I like about the guy.
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I live in Michigan and I'm the BIGGEST UM Fan there is. I'm not overly impressed with Lewan as a Left Tackle. I think he's barely above average to be honest. I do LOVE his mean streak and the nastiness he's plays with. And he does play through the whistle and then some(if you know what I mean-LOL). I'm not sold on Martin either. But Lewan, I rate him even lower. It's hard to say when projecting them to the Right Side. I'll admit that. The good thing I will say about Lewan, is he's a guy I could see as eventually developing into a solid NFL Tackle. But I see big problems with using a first round pick on either of them and expecting them to start right away(left or right side). I rather wait until the second round and get a guy like Juwan Jones who has played right tackle for four years. The guy is a MONSTER and talented as well.
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My question is with tkl numbers like that, could it be Ohio St that played Shazier out of position? Posted by: SAM I AM | April 17, 2014 at 04:22 PM ================================================ Good question Sam. One that I don't have an answer for. If I were looking for an OLB, Shazier would be my guy, no question. Still, like I posted above, I'm tired of missing on high picks and huge free agent deals.
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I'm not assuming anything about Shazier(I know this wasn't directed at me Woodshed). But I would have to go with the Kid that's done it for 3 or 4 years already. I'm sick of us taking Linebackers and playing them out of position with average at best, to poor results. Once bitten(more like 3 or 4)twice shy.
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Playing guys out of position is exactly why I'm apprehensive about taking a guy like Shazier so high and trying to move him to the middle. Personally, I would take Mosley over Shazier if drafting for a MLB. I still don't understand the logic of having our first round pick last year standing on the sidelines while our line-backing corp struggled. Jordan has all the skills to play outside linebacker in a 4-3, but these dolts decided it would be better to stand him on the sidelines. For THAT, I give them a BIG - WTF!!!!
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I think Coyles getting some un-deserved bullshyt! The bullshyt is claiming that players come here and do worse, then go somewhere else and do better. In reality, the problem is playing these guys out of position. Dansby jammed at OUTSIDE Linebacker for the Cardinals. He came here and was barely average in the middle. The same can be said for Ellerbe to an extent. In Baltimore he played inside, IN A 3-4 Defense. So, if you want to dump on Coyle(who BTW had no choice in regards to Dansby), dump on him for playing guys out of position. Not so sure it was Coyles decision to tell the truth. I suspect Ireland and Philbin had a hand in the matter considering it was a mega signing in free agency.
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Morris has problems with any accuracy. He can't even throw up in the toilet. Posted by: Coltrane | April 17, 2014 at 12:25 AM ================================================ ROTFLMAO! Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalph!
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Nice post Dusty. Vick's best days are behind him. As are CJ's. Decker won't be nearly as effective with Vick throwing him the ball instead of Manning-Ha Ha. Vick compared to Manning.......? Pssssssfpt! Decker won't be a factor except for the occasional jump ball. Rex is desperate and he'll try ANYTHING at this point. Hilariously pathetic.
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Home = Daytona Sam. Too obvious..........and pathetic.
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Lloyd already signed with the 49er's numb nuts-LOL!
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