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Dallas, Jugg Head is just PMSing and it's giving him some AMNESIA.... No big deal.
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Mi@, if Kirby has all the money he supposedly has for football and staff, Golden will be able to spend some money and get someone really skilled. I think the problems with player development are RS first, followed by Whipple's. After watching Whipple closely this season, I don;t think he has any goals other than throwing the ball from the shotgun and 3 step drops with an empty backfield. It's his default play. When he runs out of ideas, put em in the gun and throw it, regardless of down, distance, field position, game score, just wing it.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPm4AZ4MJjY&feature=related Mike Haywood...talking about his new OC. Notice the first few sentences out of his mouth. haha
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imSDuxuiXvg&feature=related Mike Haywood. OGV, I prefer Golden's swag. I see your point about Haywood though. He'll have Pitt playing like the Steelers in a couple of years.
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That's because most "insiders" are just people that read a lot more than most of usm they don't know taht much first-hand knowledge. Your take sounds as reasonable as any on this one, Cpt. I thought Randy pulled players, either by strongly encouraging his ideas or by approving Whipple's moves. But I don't know. Posted by: j.w. | December 16, 2010 at 02:06 PM >>>>>>>>>>>> I think you're right. I think RS set the table and Whipple decided courses. Just mismanagement and bad decisions all the way down. The saving grace for the offense was the talent really.
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OGV, you think Haywood's a better hire than Golden??? Hmmmmm... I don't know much about him. 1-11 to 9-4 at Ohio says something though. He definitely has that HC look and sound though. lol I'd still say turning around Temple is tougher and bigger. Ohio's had some good teams and players. Should be interesting..I think we got the best fit for the U though. Who knows if Haywood would've seen this as a golden opportunity and really. Also, Golden whooped Edsall, the Big East Champs. To me that says more than beating NIU..
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Captain, I actually agree with your point here. My thinking isn't quite as visceral as yours, though. :) But you lost me with this one: Publicity and such weren't RS shortcomings any more than they are Bill Belichik's strengths. Shannon shunned publicity. He didn't do anything with boosters north of Palm Beach, and rarely did anything with anyone in the State of Miami. He barely talked to the media, treated reporters awfully when he did (and that came back to bite him), and now we read from actual recruits that he didn't have much contact with them. He tried doing things his way. 40 years ago his way would have worked, but he just didn't understand this part of his job. Posted by: j.w. | December 15, 2010 at 07:41 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree that was a problem but it wouldn't have mattered if he'd won, which was why I used Belichik as the counter-point. Belichik, like most NFL HCs, doesn't give a damn about the press and treats them that way, more or less. When you win, it's just your style. When you lose, you're horrible with the media and that somehow reflects on how good a HC you are. For RS these things didn't affect or undermine his ability to be a HC. HIS problem was the fact that he treated HIS PLAYERS with a similar stand-off style as he treated the media. That's why Ojomo said his relationship with RS was "alright, not close or anything"....or something like that. This was a kid who said as a freshman that he wanted to be "one of RS' guys." "Us Against The World" doesn't work when the troops don't really know who "Us" is.
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I also have to add this about Whipple I do not know this for sure, so im just going to ask it Whose decision was it to not use LM6,#47,#82 and maybe even #24 although I didnt really get to see much of him to give my a full opinion of him more on offense? Did that maybe hamper what was called? #20 is not a breakaway/outside back #3 is not a zone route or physical route runner, #9 do I really need to say more about that, #2 as much as I love the energy he brought to the team and the fight he gave to see the field, he should of sat for the year. He was never fully healthy Posted by: Sebastian57 | December 15, 2010 at 08:10 PM >>>>>>>>>>>> I've been asking this question of all the "insiders" all year long and no one has answered. I think it's Whipple who made the calls during the week and in-games. It was his decision to use J12 against USF when and how he used him.
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Captain there's so much that goes right by you while you try diagnose, examine, and figure out whats really going on. lol! It's not the picture, it's Randy never allowed his guard down to enjoy the moment. That was the perfect thing for Golden to do, to relax everyone in the room in celebration of the moment. Look at it again, think about when you saw Randy clown around for the sake of enjoying himself, that's right never. Did anyone, including Randy ever look relaxed when Randy was at a podium? Posted by: solarcane | December 15, 2010 at 06:54 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clearly, RS does not know how to enjoy the moment or the company of others. We knew this in some ways going in. That doesn't have much to do with his ability to succeed or fail as a HC. Bear Bryant, Woody Hayes, Tom Landry, Bill Walsh, Schnell and a number of other coaches NEVER "let their hair down". Were they successful?? A little. Then there are coaches like Carrol, Lombardi, JJ et al who were very animated and such. That doesn't mean much, one way or the other. For Golden, it's part of his style and it definitely was a smart move as an outside coming in. He wants to reassure everyone that he's a Canes. That's why he wrote that book, and appealed to the former players, and impressed the current players with his knowledge. This doesn't mean he'll win...There have been plenty of media friendly, player friendly HCs who failed miserably. RS not "relaxing" or whatever didn't have anything to do with his team's lack of resolve, precision and will. That happens when WE don't see it, namely at practice.
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I have been very lax in my treatment of the village idiot known as Captain Optimist. He deserved worse, sooner and twice as much punishment than what I delivered. I cannot think of another blogger who has been more wrong, more ignorant, or more idiotic than him. If he NEVER posted here again I would be VERY happy. Well except for the comedic value of his comments! Posted by: SOUP | December 15, 2010 at 11:24 PM >>>>>>>>>>>> Haha, so the punk comes out after all. lolololol Hahahahahaha... Typical limp-dyk response from the JUGG HEAD. haha Go ahead and ban me, lol, you're such a punk you should continue the pattern....
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Solar...don't waste your time. Captain O...IF U ever STFU just for one second to either listen to what other people say or even just to hear yourself talk U would understand what a complete moron U sound like. Over the last four years U have been the most inaccurate, ignorant and idiotic blogger in the ENTIRE Cane blogosphere. Six months ago I was going to post a blog dedicated to all of your wildly inaccurate comments but Solar talked me out of it. Not this time. As soon as the dead period arrives (after the bowl games) I am going to post your comments from the VAULT for ALL of the world to see. U are gonna LOVE IT! Posted by: SOUP | December 15, 2010 at 07:53 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jugghead, take that dumb shyt somewhere else. WTF do you think a blog is but predictions based on SPECULATION??? If you want to post mine POST OGV'S cause he and YOU were saying the same damn things. Typical half-baked response from you.
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DTX, Shannon was handed a rebuilding job in a BCS conference. Golden wasn't handed a BCS conference team to build. BIG difference. Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | December 15, 2010 at 11:43 AM >>>>>>>>>> HUGE difference. Temple??? Are you kiddin me?? Temple...haha He almost brags about it and he should.
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"On a scale of 1 to 10, it was probably a 13 or 14," UM spokesman Chris Freet said of Golden's hectic day. >>>>>>>>>> Yep...
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But IMO, Randy and Coker are almost one in the same in the player development department... Posted by: CaneRock | December 15, 2010 at 01:07 PM >>>>>>> Yep, with a little edge to RS on the defensive side.
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Golden is on a friggin recruiting warpath... IMO this guy is going to out hustle MusCHUMP and Jimbo when it come to recruiting. I know it is just beginning and he has been on job all of 2 days but man he is working it. Posted by: Elias Rodriguez | December 15, 2010 at 05:04 PM >>>>>>>>>>> I think he's going to smoke both of them when a kid has the grades and maybe even motivate kids to get their grades up. I think UF made a mistake with Muschamp. But they'll both get their share b/c of numbers and grades.
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The rebuilding process took place in 07-08 when we were 5-7 and 7-6. 7-5 in Year 4 isn't rebuilding. Its a train that off the track. Plus, what big out of conf wins are you referring to? If it means anything, I personally would have given Shannon one more year. But, I'm just a fan and can afford to be sentimental about a life-long CANE that I really wanted to see succeed. Its not Kirby's or Shalala's job to be sentimental. And, even if I would have given him another year, there's nothing I can point to that would lead me (or any other rational fan) to believe things would be any different. If anything, my opinon after watching Shannon handle yet another QB issue this season is that the Harris-Morris situation would have had the potential to ruin next season. We'll see how Golden handles things. Posted by: DallasTX Cane | December 15, 2010 at 12:24 PM >>>>>>>>>>> Dallas, you're more generous than I am. RS had the talent and flopped time and again, mentally and strategically with his team. He just made to many mistakes, both in hiring and mental development of his players and coaches. Way too many leadership flaws to become a great, dominant team. His shutting out the former players was the worst nightmare of his personality come true. Honestly, he needs to go get a master's in sports psychology....haha
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Drew, Whipple wasn't aggressive. He was TRANSPARENT. Y'all can call that stupid shyt aggressive if you want but seeing how he had 3 different QBs under center and ALL THREE OF THEM THREW MORE INTS that killed games for us, I see his playcalling in a much deeper light. Superficially, passing on 1st down is called "aggressive". But how "aggressive" is it if you pass from the shotgun or when the QB is under center with an EMPTY BACKFILED???? It's actually STUPID playcalling. Why?? Because the defense, the LBs and SSs especially DROP BACK INTO PASS COVERAGE SINCE THERE'S NOT THREAT OF A RUN. So that leaves our WRs OUTNUMBERED by the defense. Now just how aggressive is that?? How STUPID is it?? Watch ANY game from this season. Not the formations that result in INTS, sacks or drops or bad passes. Almost 90% of them come from the shotgun or the QB under center with NO RB. The INTs against Clemson and Pitt, OSU, VT, UVA and USF and probably 80% of the INTs and sacks last year. Then go and see how many successful passing plays came from PLAY-ACTION. 1...The Game Winner against MD 2....The Big TD pass to Hankerson against GT 3....The TD pass to Mike James on 1st down against Clemson. 4.....The first play of the game against UVA...a 40 yard completion to Byrd.. ALL OF THEM PLAY-ACTION. Just watch the games and you'll see the UNDENIABLE PATTERN. In the Clemson game, J12's first pick came with him throwing in the shotgun. Just before the snap of the ball the SS dropped deep into coverage and sure enough J12 aired the ball out to TB. It was a bad pass but it was an equally BAD PLAYCALL. At that point in the game Clemson was on their heels because we were running the ball. ANY OC WITH HALF A BRAIN WOULD USE PLAY-ACTION FOR THE REST OF THE GAME. But NOT WHIPPLE. He abandons the running game for the shotgun and QB under center with NO RB. This idiotic playcalling totally and completely LETS THE DEFENSE OFF THE HOOK. Now all they have to defend against is the pass. DBs drop back, LBs drop back and DL pins back there ears. There is no such thing as "aggressive" playcalling, only INTELLIGENT playcalling. People wanted Jim Harbaugh to come right??? Has anyone watched a Stanford game?? Y'all know what Harbaugh does.....RUN THE BALL AND CALL PLAY-ACTION PASSING. He only uses the shotgun on 3rd and 7+. You know why??? BECAUSE THE SHOTGUN MAKES THE GAME EASY FOR THE DEFENSE. You know why UF's spread-option went from boom to bust so quickly??? NO THREAT OF THE RUN WITHOUT A QB WHO CAN RUN FROM THE SHOTGUN. Y'all remember those 2000-2001 teams that everyone says could just line-up and beat anyone without no stinking HC. Guess what they did EVERY SINGLE DOWN.....RUN OR PLAY-ACTION PASS. Now go back and watch the games this year and you'll see why DBs and DL always seemed to know what was coming from our offense..... I guess ALL this is J12's fault for missing a couple of open WRs. lol Yeah, y'all keep smoking that shyt that's clouding your eyes.
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Captain, you are the one that always sticks his neck out there, inviting disaster. Don't get angry at me because I wield a sharp cleaver, lol!! I don't take offense at anything you say to me ever, heck our back and forth is part of the script. You criticize something I say I'll be right there you know that. Posted by: solarcane | December 15, 2010 at 07:26 PM >>>>>>>>>> Who's angry?? I just called out what I think is a silly point...I never saw RS do that.... Shyt's silly, esp. when it's crystal clear RS didn't do A LOT OF THINGS that would've improved his team. Putting up the U with a mascot is rather low on the list.
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RS did a lot of publicity things. name two Posted by: solarcane | December 15, 2010 at 07:14 PM >>>>>>>>>>> ALL that community outreach stuff. The Canes Fest with the players actually mingling with the fans and not just signing autographs. All the luncheons and talks and speeches that he did personally. And probably 50 other things I didn't even notice. Damn, Solar, don't you read this blob everyday???? Like I said, this shyt is petty and silly at this point. Publicity and such weren't RS shortcomings any more than they are Bill Belichik's strengths.
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And for the record, Shannon's the bigger fool for hiring his clueless azz. Playcallers PUT THE PLAYERS IN THE BEST POSITION TO MAKE PLAYS.....not make mistakes. Whipple called transparent, easily read, undisguised plays ALL YEAR LONG. If you don't understand that it's cool but don't expect me to parrot that bullshyt.
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A pass from the 40 when a FG could win the game?? Yes lets put the blame on Whipple for #12 not finding the 2 open WRs wide open underneath where the play was called to be thrown and lets make sure we run the ball a few times when they have 8 men in the box and try anywhere between a 50-57 yard FG Whipple will end up somewhere else and be able to show that there is nothing wrong with his playcalling Too many times I would see 2 sometimes 3 guys running wide open and nothing Yeah that must be on the playcalling Posted by: Sebastian57 | December 15, 2010 at 07:03 PM >>>>>>>>>>>> Who in their right might is calling a passing play from the shotgun with a QB who hasn't been in a game in 3 weeks WHEN ALL YOU NEED IS A FG TO WIN THE GAME. But that was just the icing on the cake. He did dumb shyt like that ALL YEAR LONG. But it's not Whipple's IDIOTIC azzz...lol What the hell do you think OC's get paid to do???
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Captain there's so much that goes right by you while you try diagnose, examine, and figure out whats really going on. lol! It's not the picture, it's Randy never allowed his guard down to enjoy the moment. That was the perfect thing for Golden to do, to relax everyone in the room in celebration of the moment. Look at it again, think about when you saw Randy clown around for the sake of enjoying himself, that's right never. Did anyone, including Randy ever look relaxed when Randy was at a podium? Posted by: solarcane | December 15, 2010 at 06:54 PM >>>>>>>>>>> This has nothing to do with something going by anyone. It's silly....I never saw RS do this, I never saw RS do that. RS did a lot of publicity things. CLEARLY his hard-shell personality was the main flaw in his leadership, right there with his father-son spoiling of certain players. But I guess you saw all this years ago and called it out...lol
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Yeah, JJ had the opportunity to take over a piss-poor NFL franchise, but because he and Jerry Jones used to be tight, JJ knew he would have carte blanche to remake the team. And then, there was the Herschel Walker Trade. Without those two things, JJ is probably just another head coach. Posted by: dj moonbat | December 15, 2010 at 06:19 PM >>>>>>>>>>>> It's a lot deeper than that bro. You think it's just a coincidence that BOTH of his successors won championships with HIS teams then watched the wheels fall of??? JJ is the one of, if not the best HC ever. No one better than he, not Walsh, Lombardi, Halas or anyone else.
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Rock, I think the end was beginning last year to be honest. To read in between the lines of all the "insiders" RS leadership flaws were apparent for some time. I'm sure Hocutt saw and heard about this and began thinking. But of course, we had some 1st year coordinators and a bunch of sophomores, sooooo you give him the benefit of the doubt and wait and see. OSU was a MAJOR disappointment. Huge. Then we thump Pitt and beat Clemson away, so I'm sure Kirby was thinking, "We'll see, maybe it was a one game blip." Then came FSU and ALL BETS WERE OFF. Full-court press was on for the next guy in Kirby's mind. RS could've possibly saved himself if he'd won out, even if the games had been close. There's no way you fire a 10-2 HC. No way. But of course RS' personnel and leadership flaws got even worse and Mini Martz's playcalling was schizo and flimsy, and we lost to UVA and the deal was a foregone conclusion. Even if we'd beaten VT I think he was gone. You never know but I think it was a done deal. The ending was absolute poetic, tragic irony. Whipple calls a shotgun pass on 1st and 10 from the 40 when a FG will win the game, with 30 seconds on the clock. J12 makes another bad read and throw. USF picks it off. End of Shannon....
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I can't remember Randy ever doing this http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/college/hurricanes/sfl-al-golden-top-phot1320101213175527,0,3645541.photo Posted by: solarcane | December 14, 2010 at 10:26 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Solar, really?? Come on bro, this is silly. Golden needs to prove he's a Cane. RS didn't need to do that. Now, the fact is if RS had felt and acted the way Golden did about the former players, he might still be a HC.
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