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Just looking at this thing again...I wonder if there's a way to specifically omit those hideous decals on the bedsides. Between the decals and those ugly, fake-ass beadlock wannabe wheels, this thing is just screaming POSER at the top of its lungs.
..Oh, and WTF is that wire (or whatever) hanging down that appears to be wrapped around the lower A-arm on the driver's side of the front suspension?
I gotta wonder if the people saying the Rum Runner and/or the Raptor would be so much better off the road have actually driven off road much. A smaller, shorter (to a point), and lighter vehicle is nearly always going to be more desireable off road... They can turn sharper. They fit in more places. They're less apt to break stuff. They don't sink as deep in mud and snow. I do a lot of wheeling (Jeep) and you couldn't even FIT one of the newest crop of fullsized trucks through most trails. Trucks have simply gotten too big. And why would anyone WANT to take a brand new $50,000 truck off road and beat on it anyway...unless they were rich (or an idiot). That said, the 2005-on Taco isn't realy a whole lot lighter or smaller than a fullsized truck...but still, it IS lighter. It IS smaller. What good is a 411 horsepower 6.2L engine when your 6000+ pound behemoth doesn't even fit on the trail? I also have to laugh at the people saying 245 HP isn't enough... Y'all are just jaded. It wasn't all that long ago (1997) that the V8s in most fullsized trucks were only cranking out that much power. Nobody seemed to complain then. I mean, how fast does a truck really need to go?
PUTC needs to do a shootout with this truck, the Raptor, and the Rum Runner...maybe throw in a more focused offroad vehicle like a Wrangler Rubicon for good measure. Compare/Contrast what works where...
Great news. Wish I could afford one of these things...
@ Buy America and say Bye to Americans: You know, I always kinda suspected all that macho posturing HAD to be compensating for SOMETHING, but sorry dude...I just don't swing that way. LOL!
He's got a point there, Oxi...I mean, I'm a former Tacoma owner (and huge fan) but your comments are so narrow-minded you should really change your screen name to Buy Toyota or Say Bob to Michigan. They should put you, Michigan Bob, and Crazy Buy American Guy on a desert island together and not let you leave until you've all agreed on which is the best truck. You'd all surely starve there, but at least it'd rid this blog of your ridiculous comments. The truth of it: Each and every truck can be described in terms of a series of compromises and trade-offs. Humans made these things...ain't a one of 'em that couldn't stand improvement. They're all junk. Everything breaks. Even Tacomas.
Speaking personally, I live in the rural midwest (northern MN) I need a new truck and this one fits my needs perfectly: We get plenty of snow in the winter and the roads are ice-covered 4+ months out of the year so 2WD is really not an option...you can't hardly even find them around here even if you wanted one. I tow occasionally (~3K lb. boat, ~6k lb. Trailer with a Jeep on it, ~7k lb. Trailer W/Bobcat on it). I hunt fall and winter (tight trails/snow). I have a normal-sized garage. a full-sized truck fits, but it's so tight. Parking a vehicle that big in a space that small is nerve-wracking and it's just notworth the trouble. I want decent mileage (minimum 20 combined...more is better, I'm fine with Diesel). The current crop of midsize trucks are all either too small to tow that much, get crap for mileage, or are utter junk (looking at you Colorado). I currently drive a 99 Silverado 4WD and it tows fine, but it doesn't fit in my garage, gets horrible mileage (13-14 avg) and is getting long in the tooth (160K miles). I have owned A tacoma in the past (2000) and I loved it (utterly competent and never once broke down) but I had to sell it back to Toyota due to the frame rot issue. Help me out here, Ford!
Toggle Commented Sep 27, 2011 on First Drive: 2012 Ford Ranger at PickupTrucks: News
@uncleBud I know it's mostly due to resale value, but doesn't that also indicate surplus demand in the market for midsize trucks?
Toggle Commented Sep 27, 2011 on First Drive: 2012 Ford Ranger at PickupTrucks: News
Speaking of there being no price disparity, has anyone priced 2-3yr old trucks? Toyota Tacomas seem to be pretty much even steven (or more expensive) than similarly-equipped fullsize from any Big 3 manufacturer.
Toggle Commented Sep 27, 2011 on First Drive: 2012 Ford Ranger at PickupTrucks: News
Ford: THIS is the size of truck I want/need. Why won't you sell it to me?
Toggle Commented Sep 26, 2011 on First Drive: 2012 Ford Ranger at PickupTrucks: News
@oxi/@Lou, I was going to say the same thing... Winter. I live in northern Minnesota where the roads ice up in November and don't thaw until March or April. The temperature goes weeks without cracking 0 degrees F and even with all the salt they sling on the roads, all but the main arterial highways generally have an inch or two of hard-pack and ice on them. Plus we regularly get snow storms that dump a foot or more of snow over night. If you don't have 4WD and some decent ground clearance, you don't make it out of the driveway for work in the morning.
@oxi/@Lou, I was going to say the same thing... Winter. I live in northern Minnesota where the roads ice up in November and don't thaw until March or April. The temperature goes weeks without cracking 0 degrees F and even with all the salt they sling on the roads, all but the main arterial highways generally have an inch or two of hard-pack and ice on them. Plus we regularly get snow storms that dump a foot or more of snow over night. If you don't have 4WD and some decent ground clearance, you don't make it out of the driveway for work in the morning.
What Ford doesn't seem to be taking into account with its new "one size fits all" approach is that one size DOESN'T fit all. Trucks redesigned after the year 2000 DON'T FIT IN A GODDAMNED GARAGE.
If these idiots could make a small truck that people actually WANTED they might sell a few...but instead, small trucks have turned into midsize trucks. I mean, how hard can it be to make a small 4WD truck that gets 25-30 MPG when they're making full-size trucks weighing 6000 pounds that almost get that? Ford could put the lightweight EcoBoost turbo 4 banger from the Exploder in the existing Ranger and it would likely outsell all of the middle-weight trucks combined. Toyota could get off its collective ass and throw the dual VVT-i 4.0 in the new Taco and at least we'd have the power to go with our crappy mileage. Nissan could stand behind their poorly-designed cooling system and replace all the Frontier radiators before more trannies blow instead of pretending there isn't a problem Dodge could bring back the D50 as a lightweight Pentastar-powered offroad screamer. This isn't rocket surgery here... Hyundai/Kia should enter the market and turn it on its ear like toyota did back in the 80s. The 4-banger in the new Hynundai Sonata turbo makes 274 HP while 34 MPG on 87 octane gas. Throw that thing in front of a rear-wheel/4-wheel drive transaxle starting with the old Sorento frame as a base and style it right and they'd sell like hotcakes. This segments has been basically IGNORED for too long and it's ripe for revolution.
Gotta love all of the narrow-minded rednecks who post on a site like this! So quick to point out that they won't buy the most American truck (a Toyota) because the company in charge of manufacturing it is based in Japan (even though it's actually "owned" by people all over the world in the form of STOCKS--probably even in their own 401-K plan--and that's really where the profits go). ...Yet apparently blind to the fact that Dodge is owned by Fiat or that Chevy is still largely owned by thier own government (since when is state-owned enterprise a good thing?). Y'all just read the name on the grill and spend your thirty grand accordingly! :D
Let's see...ridiculous 22-inch wheels? Check! Hideous pinstripes? Check! Atrocious mileage? Check! $$$$$FIFTY FREAKIN' GRAND$$$$$ PRICE TAG??? Check! For the life of me, I'll never understand these "product tie-in" models... WTF does an ugly, heavy, overpriced, under-useful pickup have to do with ugly, heavy, overpriced, slow, anachronistic motorcycle? Wait...what?
Wow...this article sure brought out the tiny-pecker-insecurity brigade. I mean (with a couple of exceptions), most of the posts on this site come off reinforcing every ignorant redneck stereotype out there, but you guys are really outdoing yourselves on this one.
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