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Willie I think those numbers would be better with the caliber of athletes we can get at Miami. In the Mac all defenses give up big numbers. 317 ypg would be considered really good for the Mac. I was on the I hate D'No side but looking at the numbers they tell me something positive. You have to look at the numbers wholistically in the whole Mac and not just temples numbers. I could be wrong but I really hope not.
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^^^ I included Arkansas and Alabama cause they were stable for over 3 years with coaching and to give a point of reference as to the defensive numbers of non Mac schools.
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Sileo rant and other rants by former players I think is a good thing. It keeps the attention and pressure on both the coaches and players. If both feel the heat then both should elevate their performance. Ohio, you inspired me to look into more stats and so I did (slow day at work today lol). I decided to look up stats on the defensive side of the ball for other MAC schools and to see what their numbers were like. Bowling Green YPG from 2006 to 2010. 318.5, 424.5, 343.4, 398.2, 432.0 Allowed Defensive scoring average for those same years. 28.3, 32.1, 23.2, 27.5, 33.6 Ohio - From 2006-2011 YPG allowed. 302.9, 407.5, 361.4, 348.5, 353.4, 361.0 Pts allowed 18.1, 29.9, 27.2, 21.3, 23.8, 22.1 By the way Ohio was 10-4 in that final year. Ball State- From 2006-2008 YPG allowed(Brady Hoke was coach) 387.1, 432.3, 368.2 Pts allowed 32.2, 28.3, 20.5 Now a couple non-MAC teams. Arkansas from 2008 to 2011 (Petrino era)YPG Allowed. 375.2, 401.2, 347.9, 362.8 Pts allowed 31.2, 25.1, 23.4, 22.2 Alabama from 2007 to 2010 (Saban Era) YPG Allowed - 345.5, 263.5, 244.1, 286.4 PPG - 22.0, 14.3, 11.7, 13.5 Temple from 2006-2010 YPG Allowed - 452.4, 363.4, 388.0, 334.0, 317.7 PPG Allowed - 41.3, 26.2, 23.1, 22.3, 19.1 Looks like MAC defenses just give up a bunch of yards and points no matter the scheme or the players. So looking at the end result as I did when you posted Temples defensive numbers is not the best way to analyze Dnofrios ability as a defensive coach. Looking at Temples numbers I gotta admit that it looks like Golden and D'No have a pretty good scheme once the players learn it. And in comparison to the rest of the MAC that defense not only improved every year, but put up better defensive numbers than anyone else in the MAC. I am interested to see what they can do with our defense after this year. I think I'm starting to believe again. If the numbers don't lie, then we may have a very good coaching staff on hand, we just have to be patient.
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I'm assuming he did at Temple what he did here, which is to bring in a whole bunch of new players and teach them from scratch.
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This is going to be a debate all season lol. We are gonna give up big numbers to BCC and its just gonna get worse and worse until the defense improves which I don't think is gonna happen this year. I'm willing to wait and give them a chance even though I dont like what i see and i dont like the numbers Ohio provided.
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Honestly I think the numbers Ohio provided tell the whole story depending on how you want to see it (great find by the way). If you are anti dnofrio then you see them as negative. If you are pro or just want to give it time then you can take some positives from those numbers. If those numbers are correct, then there will be improvement next year. The question is will it be enough improvement to keep the fans from flipping out and demanding a firing. I dont think it will. I think D'No will be fired after next season. From those numbers Year 1=terrible defense, Year 2=Average defense, Year 3=Average Defense, Year 4=Slightly better than Average. Question is, if we are not dominating through offense is that good enough for this fanbase. I think not.
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LOL at comparing Bama in Temple, regardless of who the coach is. ----------------------------------------- Ohio I wasnt comparing Temple and Bama. I was comparing the end result. Temple was playing mostly MAC teams with a Penn State and another top program thrown in. Against their equals, Temple's numbers are terrible. They were a MAC team and giving up 318 YPG at your peak is not good in the least bit. Now Alabama was playing their equals except for the occasioinal DII school. Against their peers Bama was dominating. So by the logic above, Miami will be averaging around 300 YPG at their peak and allowing almost 20 points per game against their peers. I am comparing the end result. And the end result of those numbers are not pretty. Whether its Miami, Alabama, Temple, Louisiana Monroe, etc. The defensive scheme is poor and the fact that Al Golden doesnt see that shocks me. And if you take NFL drafted players, Temple should have dominated even more defensively. They had a Round 1 pick in the draft. Those numbers are not a good sign.
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D'Onofrio at Temple YPG Allowed - 2006: 452.4 yards, 2007: 363.4 yards, 2008: 388 yards, 2009: 335.7 yards, 2010: 317.7 yards. D'Onofrio at Temple Points Allowed - 2006: 41.3 pts (Last in CFB), 2007: 26.3 pts, 2008: 23.1 pts, 2009: 21.7 pts, 2010: 19.1 pts. LOL at those stats. Lets look at Alabamas Defensive rankings then lets laugh at DNofrio's defense. Under Smart's tutelage, the 2011 defense led the nation in all five major categories including total defense (183.6 ypg), scoring defense (8.2 ppg), rushing defense (72.2 ypg), passing defense (111.5 ypg) and pass efficiency defense (83.69 rating).
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Looking at fox sports NCAA rankings. I read this and get angry. "New coach Jim Mora promised that the Bruins would play with more heart, soul and emotion this year, but let's not underestimate the coaching acumen of the Bruins boss and his staff. THEY MADE SCHEMATIC ADJUSTMENTS against Nebrask's QB run game in the second half and helped tilt the contest in their favor with a safety of elusive Husker QB Taylor Martinez. The biggest win for the Bruins in a long time..." Now let's read what he says about KSU ranked 12th in his poll. "The biggest mover in my poll, and why not? 52 points laid on the once proud Miami Hurricanes?! The worst loss for "The U" since 2007?! K-State scored those points with 498 yards of offense, and QB Collin Klien continued to show his new, improved passing touch (9 for 11, 210 yards) to go along with his usual stellar ground game (3 rush TDs). And defensively they held Miami to 40 rush yards on 29 carries...." Ah the injustice of it all. Had Dnofrio stayed to coach temple what could have been?
Toggle Commented Sep 10, 2012 on Just Another Brick In The Wall at Canespace
Great article soup. I'm on board. I've set my emotions aside and will go along and believe in the process. I do believe golden can turn things around. I just hope I'm wrong about Dnofrio. Go canes
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I wonder if golden understands the impatience of an elite program. He played at PSU so he must. You cant think that this is a teaching/learning year and well we can get blown out and its ok cause we are building for the future. Hes not changing thr game plan cause he wants the players to execute going into next season. But at big time programs you just dont have that luxury from the fan base. Wrong or right there are expectations and 10 years of mediocrity has made most of the fan base impatient. Raizecane - i believe when golden says there are lots of things we can do better he's talking about the players. He's not gonna change the game plan. So all he can do is try and force this team to play in a way they have never played before. It could take all season it could take two games who really knows. But a change in tactics would really go a long way. And even if we beat. BCC this weekend yet they manage to rack up yards and points the discontent will grow louder and uglier. Young players or not when you play a Bethune cookman it should not even be close. We will see.
Toggle Commented Sep 10, 2012 on A Measuring Stick at Canespace
^^^^ I should have added - seeing the images on the wall and believing them all.
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I feel like the guy in Plato's cave. I've been staring at the shadow images golden has been projecting on the wall. The ksu game was the guy that got me out of the cave and showed me a new reality. I just want to win and am so tired of "rebuilding" being young,, being soft, and finally and mostly losing.
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Panamacity revealed another problem. We keep trying to shy away from our past by not being allowed to play with attitude and passion. Shannon neutered his players. I think golden says he wants to relive the past be physical etc and yet this team plays soft. Sure some of it is the youth and some is the reactive scheme but we got bullied by ksu. I think I saw some of our players our players giving the good job tap to ksu players on their helmet or helping them up. Maybe that's nit picking and stupid but I want our players to hate their opponent like has been mentioned here. I said it before, why were our players watching Morris on the ground after an illegal hit. Why was there no jawing or pushing? Nothing. Golden can talk all his legacy physical talk fact is his words aren't translating on the field. So either he's full of it or I'm overblowing it am being impatient.
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The sky is falling cause we're not losing because of growing pains. I would fully accept that and know the future is bright and still think it is with the players. We lose cause of poor soft ass b**** play calling on both sides of the ball. Until that changes I'm gonna be pessimistic
Toggle Commented Sep 9, 2012 on A Measuring Stick at Canespace
Hankerson doesn't finish plays so he's riding the pine. Had same problem last year. He stated before this season on a radio station that he never had to finish plays in college and that he had to adjust. Evidently he hasn't. He will probably be cut at end of season.
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One last angry thought/rant. Why didn't any of our players react when Morris got rocked after he threw the ball? Why didn't any of our players get in ksu players face? I don't want fighting or any of that I just want aggressive players that will out hustle and out muscle you from the moment they get in the tunnel to when they are in the locker room. But as nemo said season is still young and hopefully we get it fixed. Just so much frustration.
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CoCane very interesting theory. You said in one succinct sentence what I tried to say in a long rant. I think golden says he wants aggressive play and is aggressive himself but oddly his defense and offense to a degree is very timid.
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^^^^ oops TCU was ranked top 5 two years ago
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I think a small school can still dominate. As much as things change in CFB it stays the same. There was big time money back in the 80s and even earlier and 90s up til now. Miami was never about money just location. TCU is an example of a small school competing. They are exactly like Miami a small private school. They don't have half our history and are ranked and were in the top 5 last year. When I first heard about the yard stick psychological tactic I thought man golden is great he is so smart and knows how to motivate. But now that I think about it, maybe it's just too much paycho-babble. I would have just handed the players a paper with last years score and made it all about revenge. There is a disconnect with all the talk from golden from the staff, from the players and what is actually happening on the field. I'm gonna say it to make myself feel better but I know it won't happen. Just fire Dnofrio. Golden has allowed his friend to be an anchor around his neck and this program. I have faith golden can turn it around. But he needs to let the players loose. Let them light people up. Let them play fast and hard. He says that's what he wants but it's not showing on the field not this year or last. You want your players to be gentlemen off the field I'm with that. But on the field I want players to play fast, hard and rough. And I just haven't seen that the past two games or even last year.Everyone on defense just stands around waiting to see what happens. He's taking their instincts away and it's showing on the field.
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Jack I'm not calling for golden to resign. That is the last thing we need to happen. What I and I think many that are frustrated would like to see is actual defensive coordinator coaching. Adjusting to what is going on in the field. How do you play ksu two years in a row and practically run the same defense against them. The Dnofrio/golden philosophy is flawed. Giving up yardage but not allowing a team to score only works for so long. And so far it hasnt worked at all this season and honestly other than the usf game it didn't work last season either. I feel like golden is in charge of everything but the coaching of this team from the perspective of what he wants to run on offense and maybe even defense. His words and the teams actions aren't in sync. Not sure if he gives the coordinators free reign but if that's the case then he needs to change tactics. I would like to emphasize this is not a one game reaction. We made BC look all world. Last year Maryland looked competent against us (granted players were suspended). It's been the same for one season and two games.
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I think there is no doubt there is a flaw in the coaching, definitely on the defensive side of the ball. Maybe Franklin and Dnofrio are stuck in the temple mindset and can't shake it whatever that could be or even means. I just see this defense and how we make qbs look like heisman candidates and make offenses in general seem high flying and unstoppable. Why? What is the deal. The year randy was fired we couldn't stop the run but our D wasn't as bad as last year and the year before. Sure it got better as the year went on but it's a weak defensive system that never stopped anyone except usf. Like Tom cruise in a few good men I want answers and I WANT THE TRUTH lol.
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Just for the record golden has my support for 4 years. It's the least any coach deserves. I just hope I can look back on this post and laugh at my drama queen rant lol.
Toggle Commented Sep 9, 2012 on Golden Gets Tarnished at Canespace
One more thing. Do goldens coaches listen to him? Last week he said he wanted to establish more of the run. The run calls we're terrinle. Who has mike James sweep to the outside instead of playing out of the I and smashing teams. I will even give golden the "this is technically his first year with all the young players" excuse. I just want to see a team that tries different things on defense. And like everyone else I want golden to succeed. I don't want coaching turn over that's a killer. But he needs to get d'onofrio in check and change that philosophy or as Others have said banners will be flying.
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No one us or should be saying fire golden. But I'll be damned if I continue to support a defensive coordinator that gets beat by the same team running the same scheme 2 years in a row and in such an embarrassing way. I had between 6-6 (the realist in me) and 8-4 (optimist), but what I saw yesterday was the worst display of defensive coaching and at some points poor offensive coaching. No reason why our D isn't flexible and using a different scheme. I can't help but compare golden to other 2nd year coaches and see a significant difference in scheme and in how football is being played on a fundamental level. I don't mind losing but at least show progress or fight or something. And this isn't just one game. All of last year and first to games of this year was exactly the same on the defensive side of the ball. Giving up big yards in hopes that we don't give up a TD. That is the worst and weakest football philosophy I've ever heard of. It's soft and it reflects the play on the field. I don't expect domination or even good execution. We have a young team with serious holes on D. But that defense did not play physical like they are supposed to. They played timid due to the defensive philosophy being timid. Either have faith in your players and let them loose or leave.
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