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John, Sorry for the interruption but didn't know how to contact you another way. This is from your old "trolling" friend you normally dismiss. Anyway here's an article from the WSJ I thought you'd enjoy. http://online.wsj.com/articles/climate-science-is-not-settled-1411143565?mod=WSJ_myyahoo_module I doubt it will change your mind but maybe influence it a little.
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Rene, And here I thought it was my job to play devils advocate around here. Maybe we can share. Just for the record I took “I'm the last person who would want to take the GOP side;" to be a bit apologetic. Sorry but that's how I read it. Also I never said John and Tim are "raging liberals" just John and not raging and even not that liberal. I've come to believe John to be slightly left and Tim slightly right. I'm slightly to medium right myself. Gees nobody's perfect. Not being an economics professor my arguments can only be from outside sources I've seen and can refer to and I've found that their side doesn't take "questioning" from those sources well. My only goal here is to try to influence their side to be open minded and fair about issues. In my world "science" is BTU or CO2 output/oxidation of a given hydrocarbon. The conclusion that the seas will rise a certain amount in a certain time and that curtailing human fossil fuel burning will have have a significant affect of reducing it is only a theory and it's certainly not settled.
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Still no work history displayed???
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Still no work history displayed ????
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John, By the way I'm not a republican. You wouldn't believe some of their things I disagree with. For instance I'm for a way smaller military and way higher tax rates on the rich just for starters but there are a lot more things from the left I disagree with. Also I won't give you my name but here's some back round. Retired. Bachelor of science degree from UW. Go badgers. Professional Engineer although I let the license lapse since I retired. worked in aerospace(have used the term rocket scientist but actually was really only a flight test engineer), 15 years in the HVAC field..design and service, 25 years in packaging industry..project engineer. Well traveled, well off and my property is on high ground. Now excuse me but I'm got to get to the ballgame.
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John, Thanks for the reply. First I never called you a hack. And I've been call a troll. Second I didn't accuse you of partisanship in the classroom but I did question it and I like your answer. I respect you for trying your best to be impartial and I realize that no one can be perfect . Third I can't find the apologetic like comment but their were words to the affect "I'm the last one to take sides with the GOP". Maybe you remember it. Forth maybe we could agree on something..Lets eliminate the electoral college. Gore should have won. Lastly I prefer to remain nameless. Your side scares me. Question global warming and your demonized.
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John, Your facebook link must be better than mine cause to this day therer is no work history when I open it... and early on it didn't show anything
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I also am getting tired of it. You should look in the mirror re personal attacks. Re your info I can only conclude you are ether hiding or ashamed of something. What I asked for is pretty benign. This is the last response you'll ever get from me.
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I noticed some followers actually seem to have to apologize to you for even considering a GOP view. Am I the only one who challenges your opinions? Do your politics follow you into the classroom? I hope you realize that if less than 2% of those that voted for Obama would have voted for Mitt, Mitt would have won the popular vote. Point being this country remains pretty evenly split. I hope you present a fair and balanced classroom.
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Chris, You sure have a hair trigger temper! When I clicked all I got were your comments on this blog. I'd like to know what you do to earn a living? What's your career? Maybe your education? It's not fallacious. I'm trying to get a better understand of you. Please!
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Good to hear from you Chris. How's that that info I asked for coming?
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Lets see nearly the entire mainstream media as well as the education system has been preaching this for the last several years and low and behold most people when polled say ya must be right. When 98% of a group of "scientist" agree on something it raises suspicion. You can't get 98% of people to agree on what day of the week it is and concluding that global climate change to whatever extent that it is is caused by human activity is no small question. And whoa be it to anyone that doubts it. I'm certainly disparaged enough. I even saw where CNN dug up some preachers that called it a sin. It probably is a sin if you are a teacher these days. Express any doubt about global warming see where your tenure tack heads.
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Lets see nearly the entire mainstream media as well as the education system has been preaching this for the last several years and low and behold most people when polled say ya must be right. When 98% of a group of "scientist" agree on something it raises suspicion. You can't get 98% of people to agree on what day of the week it is and concluding that global climate change to whatever extent that it is is caused by human activity is no small question. And whoa be it to anyone that doubts it. I'm certainly disparaged enough. I even saw where CNN dug up some preachers that called it a sin. It probably is a sin if you are a teacher these days. Express any doubt about global warming see where your tenure tack heads.
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Chris, I'm still waiting for some back round info from you, in particular, how you earn a living?
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Maybe this blog would better be named Environmental Economics of the Democratic Party
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Chris, I'm giving up on you. You won't reveal your back round and now you are blaming the Koch brothers. by by.
Toggle Commented May 15, 2014 on "Crazy Climate Economics" at Environmental Economics
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OK Here's some more good reading for you. http://instituteforenergyresearch.org/analysis/white-house-revises-dubious-social-cost-of-carbon/ and this http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs_v3/ and what was it again how you earn a living? You know just to get a little perspective.
Toggle Commented May 15, 2014 on "Crazy Climate Economics" at Environmental Economics
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You wanted facts. I give you facts. And just as I expected you believe your facts and don't accept mine. Let me guess your a retired teacher on a fat pension getting your news from MSNBC.
Toggle Commented May 15, 2014 on "Crazy Climate Economics" at Environmental Economics
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Cris, while I'm ignoring your "facts" here's a website for you to ignore because it takes my side on this issue. http://climatechangereconsidered.org/
Toggle Commented May 14, 2014 on "Crazy Climate Economics" at Environmental Economics
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Chill out Chris. I didn't think I was screaming. If you don't realize that most of the main stream media has a liberal bias their is no hope for you. I give up. By the way why did Global Warming morph into Climate Change? Is it because global temps have been steady to declining for the past 15 years so it became a hard sell? Hummm.
Toggle Commented May 14, 2014 on "Crazy Climate Economics" at Environmental Economics
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Well done rebuttal Chris. I'll give you one point. the government is getting involved exactly because of my point that people want "other" people to pay for what they want and that's the point of no return that we should be worrying about, in so much as I believe we've reached the tipping point where the takers out number(and out vote) the makers and it's down hill from here. The thing that amazes me is that their are any conservatives still standing given that 90% of our educators and media are liberals. That's where most people get their knowledge.
Toggle Commented May 14, 2014 on "Crazy Climate Economics" at Environmental Economics
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Two words... Bull Shit! Or is that one word. You've got to start with the fact that Krugman is a far left radical who is always wrong. To bad he has a soapbox. And 1. Their is no such thing as clean energy. 2. The climate is going to change no matter what. 3. Change can just as well be good as bad. 4. The US is going downhill as far as world influence, mainly because central government control is overtaking free market capitalism 5. Everyone is for less pollution, clean air and water. 6. Nearly everyone wants someone else to pay for it.
Toggle Commented May 13, 2014 on "Crazy Climate Economics" at Environmental Economics
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I see in New York state the total gas tax is $.70/gal. That ought to help the poor road maintenance guys a bit.
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Some people are really hung up on that CO2 thing. Instead how about a tax on each added person to the earth's population (let's call it "population change"). You know how bad change is perceived these days. Wouldn't that better reflect harm to the earth.
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So in this case China produced stuff is a good thing? And by the way where does the power come from at night. Dual power generation with dual facility costs and probably CO2 producing backup unless the NO NUKES side somehow looses ground. All to solve a problem that 98% of working climatologists agree on. What other subject can you get a 98% agreement on anyway. Seems odd doesn't it?
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