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@Jyrki Tikka (and others) The problem is not the underlying protocol, the problem is that, as of right now, web interfaces for discussions are very bad. The advantage of the tree structure is that it naturally allows the individual branches of the conversation to nestle together. The issue is that there is no good visulaisation of this on the web. The standard NNTP client would adopt a 3 pane structure. Your list of subscribed newsgroups on the left. A collapsible list of threads in the selected newsgroup at the top and a reading pane for the individual message as the main pane. There would then be a series of navigation buttons. Next thread, next message, next unread, prev message etc. It was quick to navigate up and down any particular branch of the thread. If a post lacked context (due to not quoting) it was quick and easy to move back up the tread to gather the context Furthermore, because the body of the message and it's position in the discussion hierarchy was separate the fact that a message was nested 15 replies in didn't affect the messages readability in anyway. Navigating the hierarchy of messages was separate from navigating the messages themselves.
Toggle Commented Dec 28, 2012 on Web Discussions: Flat by Design at Coding Horror
Andre KibbeIt sounds like the real problem is indentation rather than representing hierarchy per se. I don't see why you can't keep a single-column view while denoting a post's position in the hierarchy with bread crumbs. I think you could be onto something here.
Toggle Commented Dec 14, 2012 on Web Discussions: Flat by Design at Coding Horror
Usenet should not be discarded as a forgotten relic of the past, at the very least it should be learnt from. The issue is that all web discussion formats and UIs are just unbelievably bad compared to even the most basic of mid-nineties Usenet reader. Threaded discussions worked perfectly well on Usenet because there was a good UI to navigate the threaded discussions. On the average web page discussion thread there is no way to navigate the discussion thread and so it becomes a confused and cramped mess, especially if message indenting is used.
Toggle Commented Dec 14, 2012 on Web Discussions: Flat by Design at Coding Horror
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