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"I'm old school. When I need to sleep on the road I just throw a blanket in the bed of the truck and call it a night." ---- Posted by: Red Won't work in all parts of the country. In some places it actually rains often enough that doing what you recommend simply gets you wet as often as not.
You can still sleep in a tent and be off the ground. Try the Sylvan Sport, as an example.
If you ask me (and I know you won't) this is just more proof that the pickup truck is no longer a working vehicle but is instead little more than a gigantic, open-bed, station wagon. Fine. So this thing has over 300 horses at full power; so it has over 300ft-lbs of torque; it's still a tiny four-cylinder engine that drops to two cylinders when unloaded and will suck as much or more fuel than the six it replaces when under load. Obviously it's a part-time worker at best and even then not for the kinds of loads that six could handle on an everyday basis.
As is clear, there's a lot of variety; the article only touches the highlights of each type because that variety is so wide. Since I'm not one for family travel outside of the wife (and maybe dog) I simply don't need anything longer than about 20 feet, so any of the travel trailers or camping trailers fall within a comfortable range for towability. Camping trailers in particular not only consist of the pop-up style shown but also 'solid state' trailers and tent-style trailers that have no hard tub, only a lightweight aluminum frame and a few folding panels... literally a tent on wheels. Even the "teardrop" trailers now come in a surprisingly broad variety and they, like the camping trailers, can be towed by anything from a mid-sized pickup (or larger) to a motorcycle. What we get will ultimately depend on what we choose as a tow vehicle. If I get a new Ranger, as I've almost concluded, then a larger teardrop to some form of pop-up is near certain. If I don't, then a more tent-type or lighter teardrop will be our choice. Either way, compact size and lighter weight will be more important than conspicuous luxury.
1. What Size Do You Need? This may sound like a simple question but it's probably the most important one — which is why we're asking it first. The choices are mid-size, half-ton, three-quarter-ton and one-ton pickups, and they come with varying levels of capability. --- You left out mid-sized, which has effectively the same capability as a half-ton but measures 10% smaller. A much better choice as a commuter if you don't need massive capacity. Honestly, losing another 15% would be even better. 2. How Much Torque Do You Need? Think about how you'll use your new pickup truck. Do you need a lot low-speed grunt to get your jobs done or will it mostly see duty at highway speeds over long distances? --- Unless you intend to tow a large RV trailer or put it to work as a heavy hauler, you don't need anything bigger than a mid-sizer. 3. How Many Seats Do You Need? This is pretty simple. Most pickup trucks are offered in several different cab configurations so you can find the right cab to fit your needs. The choices are regular cab (two front seats), extended cab (two full-size front seats, two mini-seats in back) and crew cabs (four full-size seats or more). --- But considering how many OEMs are dropping the regular cab, you're stuck with two choices and many of the dealerships don't readily make their Extended Cab available. 4. How Will the Pickup Be Used? Pickup trucks are designed to accomplish work, hence the cargo bed in the back. That makes them a little different from other vehicles, which have a primary purpose of transporting people. --- So why even bother with a crew cab in the first place unless it's your vacation hauler? 5. Do You Really Need a Pickup? There are many vehicles that can serve as your main or secondary mode of transportation, but if you carry messy cargo or tow something occasionally, it's possible a pickup truck is your best choice. --- Everyone needs one pickup in the household. There are some loads you simply don't want to carry in your family car.
---- Posted by: papajim "re: knife Do you ever read the stuff you write before pushing the button? Can you say metaphor? A rhetorical device." ---- Clearly you missed my metaphor. Re: air temperature for gasoline engines. The only reason to be concerned about intake air temps is the possibility that higher temperatures may adversely alter the desired stoichiometric air fuel ratio that engineers considered for the particular engine and intake." ---- Which is why summertime heat has such an obvious effect on the engines I mentioned. When the performance of an engine changes so drastically between hot and cold air operation, it becomes quite clear that modifying the air intake will improve summertime performance. "The fuel systems in modern cars were using an ideal temperature of 100 degrees F back in the 80s and 90s but my current Silverado runs so smooth under all conditions that I had not thought about it for quite a while." ---- 100° outside air temperature doesn't take into account the temperature under the hood. Like the inside of the car, that temperature can skyrocket, especially when the engine warms up. Remember, coolant temperature is usually set to between 185°F to 195°F and I've seen thermostats for even higher temperatures. If the air intake is under that hood and behind the radiator, the air density is already drastically reduced and affects performance. Just because your big V8 Silverado runs well doesn't mean a smaller engine will. "Please catch up. The SOHC two valve Pinto/Ranger engine you're making reference to is a great little engine (I had one that rolled over 250k miles), but it's a slug compared to the modern 2.3 that Ford co-engineered with Mazda about 20 years ago." ---- Which one are you talking about, the original single electronic ignition model or the double electronic ignition model? The one under my hood uses two spark plugs per cylinder and it's still weak as a kitten in hot weather... especially after the engine heat-soaks after running for a few miles and is shut down during load/unload and re-started. Makes me want to put an electric fan under the hood to replace the stock belt-driven fan as well as installing a cold-air injection system. I expect between them I could even add a few horses over the stock 112.
"Believe me! Ford would NEVER use a lack-luster engine in the Ranger if they knew it wouldn't outperform every other truck out there. You'll all be surprised what the 2.3 Eco-Boost can do." ---- Posted by: Ecoboost Rules Dude, cool your jets. You may be a big fan of EcoBoost but it's not the ultimate ultimate. Ford has more than once put engines in their pickup trucks that meet the need but can't outrun the competition. I'm driving a Ranger with a 2.3 under the hood and it tops out at around 115 horses... in a 3500# body. Granted, it's not an EcoBoost but the point is that for a 21 year old truck it gets over 20mpg city and 25+ mpg highway at highway speeds. And honestly, that's the point of the EcoBoost... use the smallest available engine for best EMPTY economy while still offering enough power to handle the occasional full load. Good aerodynamics helps reduce drag at highway speeds, letting the the engine run with a reduced load at lower revs and the turbo gives the boost needed to make that pass safely and quickly. But the point is that the turbo is not meant to run at full output full time; it's there for the extra oomph when needed, not to go racing. That's a different engine. That said, I am considering the new Ranger, with the 2.3 EcoBoost, and I expect it to perform a lot better than my existing ranger with the 2.3 NA dual ignition. Cold air it more than meets my performance needs (quite lively, though not fast) but summertime heat saps that poor thing's power, just like it did my V6 Camaro, oh-so-long ago. Oh, and I make a small modification, too. Seems the A/C compressor would run in ANY setting other than Off or Face. On the cooling side it ran as expected in AC mode but on the heating side, it ran full time in every single setting, whether defrost was turned on or not. I installed a manual kill switch for the compressor which means the compressor doesn't run at all unless I want it to... and when it runs, it chills that cab down in no time flat.
"Regarding mid size versus full size: Nobody ever got fired for bringing too big a knife to a knife fight." ---- Posted by: papajim No, but people have died for bringing too big a "knife" to a knife fight. Sure, that big knife is impressive and if your fight is in a wide-open area then sure, that big knife is perfect. But sometimes that knife fight is in a narrow hallway or even a closet. You try to swing it and it constantly gets caught on walls or obstacles, while your opponent with a little dagger is just weaving that blade around those obstacles and straight into your heart. Oh, absolutely a true mid-sized or compact truck has its advantages over full sized. It all depends on the environment in which it is used.
I have a niece that drives a 2016 Mustang 2.3EB. One thing my brother mentioned about the car is that on hot summer days the engine falls on its face. ---- Posted by: HD RamKing ---- Try recommending a cold air injection kit for that Mustang. Obviously it's the hot air that's killing the horsepower, so pulling air from outside the car rather than inside the engine compartment will have a positive effect. What you're talking about is a very common problem for almost every engine, ESPECIALLY normally-aspirated engines. You may not be noticing it on your big V8 simply because you already have more horses on board than you really need and don't realize that the hot air is sapping almost 20% of your power.
Posted by: Ecoboost Rules: #1 the 2.3 Eco-Boost is NOT the same engine in the Mustang ----Same engine, different tune and gearing. #2 nobody wants to talk about the 25-30 MPG with the Ranger ---- Honestly one of the things I'm looking for. #3 the 4.3 V6 has better performance # than the 5.3 ---- Irrelevant to the discussion since the first year Ranger isn't going to have either engine--at least, according to these early reports. #4 the 5.7 Hemi has high HP numbers but dead in torque --- Again irrelevant to the discussion. But in the case of a small truck, torque is really more important than horses, up to a point. Give me 200 horses and 230 torque and I'll be happy. I'm not a Jeremy Clarkson where I need the most power available for everyday driving. 112 horses in a 3500# vehicle moves it well enough in cool air, but it loses a good 20 horses in hot air unless it's turbocharged. #5 the Ranger is going to sell cause people trust Ford ---- I don't trust Ford. Every Ford I've had has had issues, including my current one. But in this case, Ford appears to be the only one making what I need in this Ranger, even if it's not what I want.
I'll admit, I want to see this thing first hand and sit in it. I want to see the Extended Cab version (not the Crew) and test it for fit both for myself and my wife. I want to see what colors it comes in and what features. Lastly, I want to see the price. I have a Ranger that will be 22 years old when this one arrives and I want to park my old one next to the new one and see just how much they've grown. Based on what I find, I will then test drive one and see if it meets my needs, if not my wants.
You realize that this story is hardly news, don't you? To keep brand identity across all models, they HAVE to carry the same grilles... or at least closely enough that they're obviously the same brand family. Why are the 'spies' even discussing the crosshair since the crosshair vanished with the '17 models?
I'm interested in whether we'll see any changes in this next year's report. I'm seeing a number of Nissan Titans entering commercial and government agency service, which suggest that buy-in price is low enough to make them appealing, at least for fleet testing. Note that the military used to purchase vehicles and put aside an equivalent amount for maintenance, selling those that use up their reserve as surplus. Back '76 when I joined the USAF, my first duty base had a brand-new 4x4 F-150 crew cab for the shop I worked in, operating next to a '63 Chevy Step Van 4x4. The Ford was sold as surplus the very next year while the Chevy stayed on long after I left for another assignment. Now, that's not throwing aspersions on today's Fords, only pointing out that sometimes it's the old-school trucks that may be the more reliable ones.
@author (Aaron Bragman): Question for you: Some vehicles with automatic transmissions, including 9- and 10-speeds, have an ability to manually bump gears higher or lower on the shifter. Did this truck have that ability? As you say, not having the ability to force a downshift seems counter-productive. The only other method I could think of is to release the pedal and slap it back down to see if that would force a downshift.
Not likely to buy either. Simply too large by far for what I need and want.
Um.... This article does not jive with others I have read recently which clearly state that it IS coming, though we still have a short wait. It seems internal politics delayed the Santa Cruz more than any effort to determine its viability. Another report suggests it's simply been delayed until 2020.
If you want a more comfortable ride, they've made it clear what size tires to put under it: Ram -- 70R18 Silvy -- 70R17
"big deal! I buy a new truck every 2 years" ---- Posted by: Ecoboost Rules That's a waste of money if I ever heard one.
"these mini trucks hardly see truck duties. their not towing or hauling much." ---- Posted by: HEMI V8 That's the point of a mini truck. They're not meant to tow and haul big loads, they're meant to be open-bed utility vehicles. And They're Still Too Big!
The Tanoak concept is really a good idea; their mistake is in making it too bloomin' large and attempting to compete with full-sized trucks in a part of the market that is basically full-sized or nothing. This truck should be no less than 20% smaller, lowering the roof no less than one foot, narrowing it by no less than one foot and even lowering the ground clearance by about two inches. Instead of competing with existing models, it needs to create its own market where, as the author said, "That limits its utility for hardcore truck buyers but makes it more appealing for people looking for a crossover with a bed area to put wet or messy items in." This is EXACTLY where it needs to go!
This thing should be an F-250, not an F-150, with those towing and load ratings.
In the words of the SNL "Black Jeopardy" segment: Oh, HELL no!
And people wonder why I don't trust Fords.
Not surprised by any of those numbers. Ford shows a marginal growth but Chevy shows huge growth by comparison, at least partially due to the new fascia which appears to be slightly more aerodynamic. Ram is down and will probably stay down until the 2019 models are released, after which I expect to see a significant upturn. All told, the numbers moved in the expected directions to a greater or lesser extent that I expected of them, considering the show season. I do expect Honda to suffer somewhat more, what with the announcement of the VW Tanoak as there will be people waiting to see the new truck in person. I also expect to see a new truck on the list by this time next year as the Jeep pickup finally hits the market.