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Shmaryahu wrote in his earlier posting that the Chabad Rabbis also endorsed this view. I challenged him with the following:
1) The previous Lubavitcher Rebbe NEVER said the Holocaust happened because of secular Jews, assimilation or anything of the sort. ROSENBERG IS A LIAR! (In fact he shared the same view as his successor that we don't know why it happened.
2) The Lubavitcher Rebbe did not imply by his analogy of the surgery that we can rationalize this or that it has some cleansing aspect to it. ROSENBERG IS A LIAR! What he said was in the same way someone primitive sees something from the outside that is utterly alien to the foreign mind won't understand what is going on, we too cannot understand why Gd allowed for the Holocaust to have happened. But ultimately there is a reason. Nevertheless, as he said at the same time, whatever that reason is, we don't have to look to justify Gd. We have a right to cry out and demand why did you allow for this evil to befall Your people, as did Moses all those years before. These same words were uttered by his predecessor.
In other words Scotty you are a revisionist liar. And you know you cannot cite me a source to the contrary. In fact the Lubavitcher Rebbe challenged the rabbis in Israel when they repeated that mantra during the gulf war blaming it on sins etc.
Shmaryahu came back with this "intelligent" retort:
Read Bryan Mark Rigg's Rescued From The Reich. Pay special attention to the footnotes.
Your hero Schneersohn not only blamed secular Jews for the Holocaust, he blamed Orthodox Jews who raised money on Shabbat to save lives for making the Holocaust longer and worse than it otherwise would have been.
Posted by: Shmarya Rosenberg | February 10, 2014 at 07:05 AM
To which I responded with:
Amazing Scott bubeleh. You cite your proof from Rigg's footnotes.
But since you want to go there, he cites in one of his footnotes (which you review on your site back when): (Menachem Mendel Schneerson also said that saying such a thing is a desecration of God's name without mentioning his father-in-law). Since you argue his book is true and sourced and in his book says "Menachem Mendel Schneerson also said that saying such a thing is a desecration of God's name without mentioning his father-in-law," then why do you insist in this blog posting that the Habad Rebbe embraced the view of Mizrachi? Did the Habad Rebbe say what you attribute to him or not. If he did, what is your source? Because the one source you do bring says that he didn't.
Shmaryahu has since not explained himself. He cited a book as his source. But the book itself contradicts his own statement. Now watch him run off his toilet bowl mouth and ignore the point again. Or delete this post.
Video: Holocaust Was "5 Years Of Punishment" From God "To Many Wicked People," Rabbi Yosef Mizrahi Says
Rabbi Yosef Mizrahi says non-Orthodox Jews are supposed to suffer, Orthodox women who were murdered in the Holocaust honored God while non-Orthodox women murdered in the Holocaust did not, and claims that the Holocaust was "five years of punishment to many wicked people that Hashem [God] give ...
The only thing I find difficult about this story is that R. Eliyashuv would have spoken to Scotty. Notwithstanding that had he would not have known who the rodent was as he probably would never have spoken to him, but generally to get through and speak so randomly with an asinine question - of course we have only his word to take for it (and he loves to repeat it. What is it about a lie repeated enough times?).
Cops “Comfortable” Arrest Will Be Made In Stark Kidnap-Murder Case, Commissioner Says
Stark was kidnapped outside his Williamsburg, Brooklyn office late on January 2 and his partially burned dead body was found, still smoldering, in a trash dumpster in Great Neck, Long Island the next day. Menachem “Max” Stark Cops “Comfortable” Arrest Will Be Made In Stark Kidnap-Murder Case...
She was a shrink so the starting point is her psycho patients. Then onto the students. After that possibly one of the many sociopaths that post here.
MURDER: Deaths Of Orthodox Day School Teacher’s Aide And Sister Ruled Homicides
Each woman had a single gunshot wound to her head and both deaths have been ruled homicides. MURDER: Deaths Of Orthodox Day School Teacher’s Aide And Sister Ruled Homicides Shmarya Rosenberg • FailedMessiah.com A teacher’s aide at the Orthodox Hillel Academy day school in Pittsburgh and h...
Here is the original article that Scotty "plagiarized" as he does, albeit rewritten in his own words. Spot the differences:
Jewish Home MK Ayelet Shaked arguing with United Torah Judaism MK Uri Maklev. Shaked is chair of the Knesset committee which this week will bring a final draft of the IDF enlistment law to a second and third vote, making it law. Photo Credit: Miriam Alster/FLASH90 The Knesset committee working on the new draft bill have decided to add a third special track, in addition to the “hesder” track for religious Zionists, and the Haredi track: the Chabad Lubavitch track, Kikar Hashabbat reported. Over the next three days, the Knesset committee working on the conscription law, chaired by Jewish Home MK Ayelet Shaked, will prepare its final draft that will include, among other changes, shortening the service period for all enlisted IDF soldiers, adding a month to the hesder yeshiva track, and creating the Chabad track. According to a Chabad rabbi speaking to Kikar hashabbat, the Chabad track will have different, and presumably easier conditions than those offered to Haredi yeshiva students. The bill presented for a second vote on Tuesday permits Chabad yeshiva students ages 18-20 to leave the country to one destination: 770 Eastern Parkway in Brooklyn, NY, the world center of Chabad Lubavitch. They will stay there for two years, come back home, get married and spend one year in Kolel. Then they will enlist, as per the determination by the IDF. They, too, like Haredi students, will be permitted to ask for a delay of service until age 24. This will end, once and for all, the ongoing problem faced by Lubavitch youths who stay in America and then face charges of desertion upon their return, with some actually serving jail time. Now they can take their time and stay in Crown Heights with the IDF approval. According to the current draft, before the Tuesday vote, the hesder students will be serving an additional month, as prescribed originally by the Perry Committee, totaling their service at 17 months. Non-hesder soldiers will serve 32 months, down from 36. Minister Naftali Bennett, chairman of the Jewish Home, celebrated the new bill on his Facebook page, saying that, “for the first time in many decades, the government is acting to connect the Haredi public with the world of employment and service.” “Without this move, the State of Israel would have been trapped in an enormous socio-economic crisis in a few years,” Bennett added, promising: “in a few weeks we will change the reality in Israel.” It might be a sign of a good law when it is hated by many in the Haredi public as well as on the left. MK Eliezer Stern of Tzipi Livni’s movement, who served as head of HR in the IDF and wears a yarmulke, accused Jewish Home of hypocrisy, by making a mockery of the idea of equal burden, which the new draft law was supposed to fix. According to Stern, the hesder yeshiva track, which started out as a great thing, has become corrupt over the years, with men who are registered in hesder yeshivas actually doing other things and getting to serve a shorter term. Minister Yaakov Perry, whose committee actually wrote the original draft with the 17-month allotment to religious Zionist hesder soldiers, now accused Jewish Home of weakening the demands from Haredim. He promised a fight on the Knesset floor over the special terms awarded Haredim, seeing these as a rehashing of the faults of the Tal Law, which the Supreme Court annulled for its failure to introduce changes fast enough. It’s true that the Tal Law was moving slowly, getting between 2,000 and 2,500 Haredim into the army each year. But even Perry’s version of the new law only envisioned 3,200 IDF recruits, out of 5,200 recruits altogether, with the remaining 2,000 doing national service in their own communities. The additional 1,000 Haredi soldiers will hardly make a difference in terms of the IDF means, but will provide a wedge issues to be used effectively by both the left and the Haredi political parties, each riling up their voters to resist the “injustice.” In my humble opinion, the Tal Law, slow as it was, was achieving real results in benign ways, connecting thousands of young Haredi men and women to academic institutions and to the job market. The impatient Supreme Court, in its haste to get the numbers on paper, has created needless political battles.
Knesset Reportedly Moves To Create A Special Chabad Haredi Draft Track
The Knesset’s Shaked Committee which is working on a new universal military draft bill has decided to add a third special track for Chabad followers. Knesset Reportedly Moves To Create A Special Chabad Haredi Draft Track Shmarya Rosenberg • FailedMessiah.com The Knesset’s Shaked Committee w...
No Shmaryahu! Like Mommy always said: Take a deep breath. Think. Listen to the question. Now answer it correctly. Don't avoid the issue. No Scott! SCOTT! Behave yourself! Calm that tongue. You still have not answered the point.
Did the Habad Rebbe say what you attribute to him or not. If he did, what is your source? Because the one source you do bring says that he didn't.
Now how are you going to deal with that apart from deleting this or hoping because you moved it quickly to "older" that no one will see.
Sefardi Rabbi Blames Assimilated Jews For The Holocaust
Rabbi Yosef Mizrahi is known for saying that non-Orthodox Jews caused the Holocaust through their assimilation and that Orthodox and haredi Jews in countries with high levels of assimilation were also responsible for the Holocaust because they did not condemn the non-Orthodox Jews strongly eno...
Oops! Caught with your pants down then? How come you are always so good at shooting off your mouth, and the more venomous the further your pants have fallen.
Amazing how you didn't answer the point: Since you argue his book is true and sourced and in his book says "Menachem Mendel Schneerson also said that saying such a thing is a desecration of God's name without mentioning his father-in-law," then why do you insist in this blog posting that the Habad Rebbe embraced the view of Mizrachi?
If you can answer the point directly fine. If not, then I revert to my earlier statement. You are intellectually dishonest and just a hyperbole hack. But we all know what is coming next.
Sefardi Rabbi Blames Assimilated Jews For The Holocaust
Rabbi Yosef Mizrahi is known for saying that non-Orthodox Jews caused the Holocaust through their assimilation and that Orthodox and haredi Jews in countries with high levels of assimilation were also responsible for the Holocaust because they did not condemn the non-Orthodox Jews strongly eno...
Haven't you kind of missed the point. The bit about serving less is Scotty's classic insertion - unsubstantiated, therefore in brackets but it is what makes his whole story and what you all pounce on. The true details of the story do not suggest that they will serve in a different unit just that they will be allowed to do a little extra study first. At least they are going for the right compromise position of willingly serving (unlike most other Hardeim) albeit wanting to do some added study first. Smoke and mirrors but it is what keeps Rosenbergs blog alive and the few of you that are left frothing at the mouth embracing every lie as gospel.
Knesset Reportedly Moves To Create A Special Chabad Haredi Draft Track
The Knesset’s Shaked Committee which is working on a new universal military draft bill has decided to add a third special track for Chabad followers. Knesset Reportedly Moves To Create A Special Chabad Haredi Draft Track Shmarya Rosenberg • FailedMessiah.com The Knesset’s Shaked Committee w...
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Knesset Reportedly Moves To Create A Special Chabad Haredi Draft Track
The Knesset’s Shaked Committee which is working on a new universal military draft bill has decided to add a third special track for Chabad followers. Knesset Reportedly Moves To Create A Special Chabad Haredi Draft Track Shmarya Rosenberg • FailedMessiah.com The Knesset’s Shaked Committee w...
1) The previous Lubavitcher Rebbe NEVER said the Holocaust happened because of secular Jews, assimilation or anything of the sort. ROSENBERG IS A LIAR! (In fact he shared the same view as his successor that we don't know why it happened.
2) The Lubavitcher Rebbe did not imply by his analogy of the surgery that we can rationalize this or that it has some cleansing aspect to it. ROSENBERG IS A LIAR! What he said was in the same way someone primitive sees something from the outside that is utterly alien to the foreign mind won't understand what is going on, we too cannot understand why Gd allowed for the Holocaust to have happened. But ultimately there is a reason. Nevertheless, as he said at the same time, whatever that reason is, we don't have to look to justify Gd. We have a right to cry out and demand why did you allow for this evil to befall Your people, as did Moses all those years before. These same words were uttered by his predecessor.
In other words Scotty you are a revisionist liar. And you know you cannot cite me a source to the contrary. In fact the Lubavitcher Rebbe challenged the rabbis in Israel when they repeated that mantra during the gulf war blaming it on sins etc.
Finally, the Ari makes no such statement either. He reiterates the principle of reincarnation, brought already in the Zohar, and makes the general point that a soul has to go through this world in order to fulfill all the commandments. So if there are omissions or commissions then these two have to be rectified in the process in order to ultimately elevate the soul. This doesn't mean that when we suffer it is because of sin. That is Mizrachi's distortion. It simply means we come back again to make good in those areas where we previously may have been lacking.
Take you for example. The only example I know of a swine that got reincarnated as a human being. Perhaps a Kapo who will have to come back again and again because the garbage that you are is the garbage you always were and at this rate, always will be.
Sefardi Rabbi Blames Assimilated Jews For The Holocaust
Rabbi Yosef Mizrahi is known for saying that non-Orthodox Jews caused the Holocaust through their assimilation and that Orthodox and haredi Jews in countries with high levels of assimilation were also responsible for the Holocaust because they did not condemn the non-Orthodox Jews strongly eno...
Ali I am curious to hear whether you have anything to do with the murders. You stupid terrorist!
Orthodox Day School Teacher’s Aide, Sister, Found Dead, Apparently Murdered
A teacher’s aide at the Orthodox Hillel Academy day school in Pittsburgh and her sister were apparently shot to death late last week inside their home. Orthodox Day School Teacher’s Aide, Sister Apparently Murdered Shmarya Rosenberg • FailedMessiah.com A teacher’s aide at the Orthodox Hille...
Oh yeah Reese Failedmessiah was the one responsible for this positive result. I am sure both families read this trash and felt sufficiently moved by all the scumbags that post here not to mention Scotty himself that they decided to cave and submit.
Scott is just a hack. In simple terms he re-posts other people's articles here for the benefit of those of us who don't have access to all the media coverage, not to mention those of us who have day jobs and don't have the time that the unemployed hack has to read through everything. The various real media outlets who posted the story compiled the pressure to achieve the get. But whatever helps you sleep at night.
Rabbi Reuven Feinstein's Grandson Finally Gives Wife Get
Gital Dodelson, who was trapped in an allegedly abusive marriage with Avrohom Meir Weiss for years, a great-grandson of Rabbi Moshe Feinstein and the grandson of Rabbi Reuven Feinstein, has reportedly finally been given a get (an Orthodox Jewish bill of divorce) by her now-ex-husband. Gital ...
Jeff your proposition is accepted. Now get sick and drop dead.
Rabbi Reuven Feinstein's Grandson Finally Gives Wife Get
Gital Dodelson, who was trapped in an allegedly abusive marriage with Avrohom Meir Weiss for years, a great-grandson of Rabbi Moshe Feinstein and the grandson of Rabbi Reuven Feinstein, has reportedly finally been given a get (an Orthodox Jewish bill of divorce) by her now-ex-husband. Gital ...
Hear that jackass: "We can't just charge people because we have a bad taste in our mouths or we're angry." Williams reportedly said.
Someone tell him fatboy does it all the time.
Hasidic Slumlords Beat The Rap In Firefighter Deaths
The grand jury was still sharply critical of the building’s slumlord owners, father and son Gerrer hasidim Nahman and Michael Lichtenstein whose family owns the haredi daily newspaper Hamodia. The grand jury found that the Lichtensteins’ greed and negligence turned the vacant building into "a ...
Robert sometimes you want to ascertain more than just the killing for 20K. Someone who hires hitmen for his 20K usually has more than the one ax to grind. Once busted he will clam up or plea deal. If they can find out more on the perp plus other known associates they could uncover a lot more. Often when there is a "hit" of this kind there is a lot more to uncover than just the "hit."
Furthermore, there is so much being unraveled in this story that they are probably investigating on multi-levels.
Finally, for all you know this is a smoke-screen which the cops want out there while they are digging up elsewhere.
Bottom line: You ain't seen nothin' yet.
Cops Reportedly Find Murdered Satmar Slumlord’s DNA In Van
DNA from Menachem “Max” Stark, the Satmar slumlord murdered early this month after being kidnapped in front of his Williamsburg office, has reportedly been found in a van linked to a contractor Stark owed $20,000. Menachem “Max” Stark Cops Reportedly Find Murdered Satmar Slumlord’s DNA In ...
Never mind young. VERY young child. The implications are there. There is sufficient for a law suit.
The Lies Of The New York Post
The New York Post chooses to ignore the fact that that an accused pedophile's attorney lied to them and ignores the much else about the case, to try to smear a blogger for reporting the pedophile's arrest. The New York Post omitted key facts from a story in order to try to smear me. What fol...
Whew! Can anyone else feel the heat being exuded from under Shmaryahu's collar! The blogger protest too much, methinks!
Scott, just so you know, this is the tip of the iceberg. Watch the domino effect. You did exactly what was expected of you to do. Protest too much and attack a tabloid. Now, you get eaten for supper. You were warned you would soon step over the line. We all take screen shots of everything you post, you edit, etc. (even your embellishment of a "very" young child, which has its own implications). That begging cup you have on the top of each page - you might want to put that out there a bit more. This is going to be fun!
The Lies Of The New York Post
The New York Post chooses to ignore the fact that that an accused pedophile's attorney lied to them and ignores the much else about the case, to try to smear a blogger for reporting the pedophile's arrest. The New York Post omitted key facts from a story in order to try to smear me. What fol...
What is wrong with this picture?
The headline: Israel’s Defense Minister Comes Out Against Haredi Draft
The article: “I support the position that enabling Haredi youths to serve is important, but not by way of incitement..."
Oh yeah, it's Scotty the Hack and his cheap sensationalist journalism (another copy and paste but with his own dishonest spin).
Israel’s Defense Minister Comes Out Against Haredi Draft, Says Do Not Coerce Haredim To Serve
“I support the position that enabling Haredi youths to serve is important, but not by way of incitement, not by delegitimization, and not by force. To enable and not to coerce, this is the correct way that has proven itself [effective]. This is the correct way that will bring increased integra...
This is asking for trouble. Sephardic and Ashkenazi communities will face off against each other and it will become cut throat to a point where whichever gets elected the other will create their own even if not government funded. I think most will see that. This won't cut mustard through 3 readings.
Cabinet Agrees To Back Bill That Would See Israel Have Only One Chief Rabbi
The new law also provides clear wall of separation between the Chief Rabbinate and the state rabbinical courts, which would for the first time be constituted as an independent judicial institution out of the chief rabbi's direct control. Israel's current haredi chief rabbis, Rabbi David Lau,...
Ah the quandary. Western Jew attacks fat boy who would typically respond with his usual meaningless venom. But wait! Western Jew donated to this blog! And at the core, fat boy is as much a slum lord as the next guy. For money he will shut up. So you keep donating WJ and feel free to malign. Because when it comes down to it, Fat Boy is little more than a journalistic whore who is still hoping his golden egg will be laid one day.
Van Used In Satmar Slumlord Kidnapping Found
Police have found the Dodge Caravan minivan allegedly used in the kidnapping and murder of Satmar slumlord Menachem “Max” Stark. Menachem "Max" Stark Stark Kidnap Van Found Shmarya Rosenberg • FailedMessiah.com Police have found the Dodge Caravan minivan allegedly used in the kidnapping a...
Scott looks like you've been owned. Another poor attempt at stupid conspiracy journalism and one big fail. Sigh indeed!
Murdered Satmar Slumlord’s Bad Loans Helped To Crash A Mob-Linked Bank
Two unpaid loans made to murdered Satmar slumlord Menachem “Max” Stark and his business partner Israel “Sam” Perlmutter helped drive a mob-linked Chicago bank into failure. Menachem “Max” Stark Murdered Satmar Slumlord’s Bad Loans Helped To Crash A Mob-Linked Bank Shmarya Rosenberg • FailedM...
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