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@ Rwolf-Your comments are enlightening. since I am not a scientist, could you please point me towards the articles you mentioned? I am not trolling; I would like permission to use your information as a rebuttal to several of the more ignorant people posting outlandish, fear-driven nonsense. I can and have performed web searches on the efficacy of cannabinoids in different cancer models and neuroprotective abilities; however, without a dictionary at hand and a medical reference book I find this hard to understand. I know the benefits in the aggregate-but not in and of itself. If possible, I'd like to know what-in layman terms-these studies show. Thanks in advance for any help.
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Well, these ARE our "Representatives" who are behind these appointments. Wonder just who they "represent" other than themselves? One would think the judiciary would, at the least, be fairly representative of the population; apparently, the Repubs in the Fl. Legislature don't agree.
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We citizens can hope that 'this Christie's standings' do indeed influence those of 'this Scott'. Scott's standing in the State is highly overrated-I believe he's a legend in his own mind. another trait he and Christie share. this citizen hopes those who are sorely displeased with king Scott will act instead of complain; since Florida has more registered Democrats than Repubs, hopefully they will go to the pols and vote for Crist. Wylie is a good choice, but I fear he'll be a spoiler in this election-all those who cast a vote for him are helping Scott.
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THIS citizen heartily agrees with Keith Stegath. Kudos to you for your thoughtful and witty comment on the ever-changing attitudes of deniers edj and DavidJ ; I, too, now have a semblance of hope that other deniers-specifically, Gov.Scott and his Repub cohorts (all non-scientists, by their own admissions)- in this family-friendly State will also come to their 'senses' and loudly denounce The Lush. I add Steve Southerland and his 'job creators' who wish to demolish the EPA recommendations to this august assembly. Let the church bells peal these joyful tidings to ALL in this family- friendly, abysmally ignorant State! May they ring loudly enough to dislodge the grasping claws of Scott, et al from the high perches upon which they now crouch! I've always been partial to sweaters, however-I will miss being able to wear them. But-a small price for this citizen to pay; 'tis of no consequence, however, since all in the family-friendly State will either be under water if they haven't decamped elsewhere to higher ground..Sigh. Tornados, anyone? What WILL one wear?? A true sartorial dilemma, that. To ebay I go-to list leather jackets, exquisite silk blouses, my much-loved cashmere, and other such niceties of dress. Great deals are a'coming !
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ed jenkins-I (and everyone else who has the great misfortune to be forced to either wade through or scroll down and therefore ignore your ignorant comments) am taken aback by your obvious and appalling lack of both empathy and basic human emotion. For ANYONE to pen such a comment on such a horrendous act of violence , but especially when a child is killed,is absolutely atrocious. I have no idea which "charities" to which you refer would have either the resources or the legal responsibility to immerse themselves in such a situation; however, the government bureaucrats you seem to believe are heartless, do indeed have a thankless and far-underpaid job to do-with little or no help from the legislators in this State. Perhaps you, with your moral certainty in all affairs of government, should donate YOUR expertise (?)and YOUR dollars to properly fund the government agencies that exist to try to ameliorate just these sort of problems. Would you prefer that the agencies and other government entities- which protect YOU from contaminated meat, poultry, drugs, etc.-become the purview of 'charities'? I assume you do not and will never take advantage of or accept ANY sort of government assistance-Social Security, Medicare, etc. I hope you are also an expert at healing yourself since you wish charities to assume all such roles. Insurance, highways, police, firemen, emergency technicians ? You have no need of THESE government entities who employ only heartless bureaucrats. Do you? This must be the most inane, insane comment you have ever written. THIS citizen dearly hopes that you NEVER have any occasion to cross THIS citizen's path. Whereas I have never before personally castigated or attacked anyone in a forum such as this, I do so now- after reading your "comment". You, ed jenkins, are an embarrassment not only to the 'citizens' of this State, but also to humanity. You obviously do not possess the traits of the majority of right-thinking humans who actually care about their fellow man. I remind you that you do not, and never will, speak for the "citizens" of Florida. You, ed jenkins, speak ONLY for yourself.
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Oh, Gaetz, Weatherford, and Cannon REALLY don't want to appeal this. If they did, who knows what other deviousness we would find? I sure hope Judge Lewis looks long and hard at the new, "revised" maps. As chairman Corcoran stated, "Legislators claimed they had no knowledge, even as an aide to then-House Speaker Dean Cannon, R-WinterPark, gave advance copies of maps to a Republican consultant who also worked for Cannon. The new rules this time are intended to avoid the appearance of undue influence. House Redistricting Chairman Richard Corcoran, R-Trinity, for example, told members in a memo on Tuesday.." They want to avoid the APPEARANCE of deceit?? Every one of the Republicans who had a hand in this disgraceful affair should either resign or be fired. They are criminals.
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@ Christopher Kennard-I completely agree with you on all points, except one. I truly think that Nan Rich is the best candidate -however, as you stated, the closed primaries stifle more than half the registered voters in the State. I wish she or Wylie had a better chance of winning the election, but I also recognize that those who DO vote for either are probably giving this election to Scott. The Repub Party-both in Fl. and national-have given a ton of $$ to Scott. I doubt that either Rich or Wylie would be able to overcome that. As other Democrats-I too switched from Independent-I will cast my vote for Crist, although I think it's choosing the lesser of two evils. This State and its people cannot survive another term with Scott; the only ones who will do well are the wealthy and the "almost-wealthy". Certainly the average citizen will see any increase in their standard of living. This recent scandal involving of the top "leaders" -Gaetz, Weatherford, and others- in the Repub legislature is indicative of the manner they work; they obviously feel no remorse for being caught at their map-drawing scheme-they now wish for the people to vote in districts already judged as illegally drawn in a deliberate effort to deceive the citizens, protect Republican incumbents, and in direct and purposeful violation of the Fair Districting laws that the voters in Florida approved. These Legislators went to great lengths to hide the methods and those firms used in the process. Back room politics doesn't come close to an apt description to the machinations that Gaetz and Weatherford employed. We cannot continue to have these types of criminals in the Legislature. Every voter in this State-whether Republican, Democrat, or Independent, should be outraged at the flaunting of the law. And Christopher, you are certainly correct in your suggestion that every voter bring at least one other, who may have no way to get to a polling place, would and could make a huge difference in the outcomes of elections. with the voter suppression laws Scott initiated, far too many will be disenfranchised-unless those of us who CAN-actually DO.
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Bill Thompson, I agree. If they decide not to comply, I can't wait for the decisions/comments the Federal court will render. Frankly, since we know they already defied several laws, they should be arrested now;were an ordinary business/person to do likewise, arrest would occur immediately. "D"-the least YOU could do is avail yourself of a dictionary. For one who harbors such animosity towards another, your obvious lack of writing/spelling/grammar skills reveal you to be extremely ignorant,to be kind. I suspect most merely ignore your rants and skip to the next.
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As Rep. Thurston commented, "Let’s all remember, the reason we’re here is because the leadership who’s in charge of this process did not abide by the rules of the Fair Districts process,’’ he said. That just about says everything that needs to be said. The Fl. Repubs committed an illegal act in the redistricting process, and now that they've been called on it, they want the citizens to vote in their illegally-drawn maps?? They act as though THEY were wrongfully accused !! The fact that incumbents won't be able to access funding plays a large part-if not THE part-in this scandal. Not to mention protecting the Repub majority. The only way they can manage THAT is by illegal and nefarious means-which is exactly what they have done. How DARE they?? Gaetz and Weatherford act like they are above the law. I hope they DO attempt to hold elections in the counties as drawn; I hope this appeal DOES make it to the federal courts. If so, I can't imagine other judges (if they cannot be bought) will rule as did judge Lewis. Bad PR, that. Lynn Miller speaks for the "citizens of the family-friendly State of Florida" when she stated ,"The judge ruled that it is UNCONSTITUTIONAL and I want it fixed ,NOW." I concur-this needs to be fixed now-NOT later. Every Legislator who had a finger on the maps should be summarily fired-NOW. Their actions have made FloriDUH a national example of corruption; last night, CNN and other national media outlets-print and TV-reported the gerrymandering of districts and read the crucial "conspiring to deceive..." portion of Judge Lewis' decision on air. I find the fact that my hometown newspaper, in the Fl. Panhandle ,which is home to Senate President Gaetz, reported on the "doings in Tallahassee" but failed to name and/or castigate- by name-any Legislators involved-namely, Gaetz. The hometown altar boy can do no wrong. I certainly cannot call the mullet wrapper a great source of news-other than the stories of local traffic accidents and blurbs clipped from the AP about the "events" in other parts of the State, but I would expect at least a bit of coverage of this scandal AND those involved in the deception/back-door deals. The entire process, as the Judge stated, was a deliberate effort to circumvent the law and the legislators involved "conspired to..". This (redistricting) is yet another disgraceful example of the political stranglehold that Republicans in the Legislature wield in this State. Gerrymandering, loopholes and suppression of voting privileges are merely the tip of the Republican iceberg that allows them to gain and maintain control. Transparency ? Ethics ? The "representatives" of the people of Florida don't know, follow, or care about the definitions of these words. In their view,they are immune to and innocent of charges of any kind.
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"Starting to comply"-is correct, Bill. Whether they'll actually DO it or not-that's the question. The Repubs are already setting the stage for their NON-compliance. Ready made excuses-chaos, ballots already sent-and received, not to mention the disruption of our Republican legislator's summer schedules.. Ah, I forgot-all the military servicemen/women who already cast their votes-wonder if THEY know this was going to another rigged election ? Weatherford, Gaetz, and friends seem to think that one more illegal election won't make any measurable difference in outcome.
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As "warm a and personable " Ann Scott may be, SHE is not running for governor. Her early years with the governor and their marriage has absolutely no bearing on Scott's qualifications for the office he bought. Whether the voters in this State respect and/ or admire Ann Scott is of no consequence; I admire and respect many people; such admiration and respect, however, does not automatically extend to voting them into office- they are the mouthpieces for their spouse and earnestly extoll his/her virtues... Ann Scott can kiss babies, visit new mothers, and anything else she believes will help her husband with the female vote, but the women of Florida know all too well the platform upon which Scott and the Republican Party stand. The teabaggers have hijacked the Republicans and whereas their verbiage may have changed, their stances on women's rights have not. They are the anti-woman party and Florida women are by no means ignorant of that fact. I surmise that Miamimom must not be an admirer of the First Lady of the United States; is this due to HER actions or simply because you dislike the policies of the President? Like Ann Scott, Michelle Obama is NOT President. I, however, as do a great many others-both national an international-DO admire and respect her for her own accomplishments and drive-not merely as a measure of those of her husband's. If Mrs. Scott does indeed, actually speak to and answer questions from those in the media and 'regular people', she deserves a kudos for that, at least. Her husband has a habit of NEVER answering any questions posed to him by anyone on the subjects concerning the governing of this State. I certainly do NOT respect or admire Rick Scott. His policies have made a laughingstock of the State- so much so that the DoJ is now planning to take a look-see at the laws Scott enacted after buying the office-most of which were deemed unconstitutional. But then, Scott attempted, with a great deal of assistance from the Republican Legislature, to suppress the vote-not only by gerrymandering districts in the State, but by restricting hours and polling venues. These are, while only a few of Scott's actions,indicative of his 'governing' style. He feels answerable to none. As Rick's mother stated in one of his commercials, "He's a GOOD boy!". Well, he MAY have been "a good boy", but he's been a travesty of a governor and by his actions, has opened up the State of Florida to, among other actions, well-deserved charges of corporate cronyism, corruption, and voter suppression laws. Perhaps the male member in the Scott household should leave the political stage in Florida and decamp elsewhere to take tea with others of his ilk. I'm certain that Texas-with the Bush clan in residence, would welcome him. Florida does not need another 4 years of a Scott reign. No one except the wealthy can afford his policies. Even though his spouse may be, and by all accounts, is, a respected and personable wife, she is not the candidate running for reelection.
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My apologies to all-for some reason, my last comment posted twice. Have no idea why. Mayhaps I have gremlins in my computer's innards..or something. Sorry.
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Just for "... and grins", I'll post the email that went out from Gaetz and the deputy counsel to all members- "Accordingly, I draw your attention to the record retention policies set forth in the House Rules. House Rule 14.2 governing legislative business records dictates that records that are required to be created by the House Rules or that are of vital, permanent, or archival value shall be maintained, provided they are of sufficient administrative, legal, or fiscal significance to warrant their retention. "Accordingly, you should keep and do not delete any and all records related to redistricting, including copies of unfiled draft maps, unfiled draft bills and amendments, correspondence, emails, texts and other electronic communications, whether sent or received on official House accounts or devices or personal email accounts or devices." The previous quotes are their OWN rules-which they ignored. Perhaps they needed a 'refresher course' in the laws of the State?
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Just for "... and grins", I'll post the email that went out from Gaetz the deputy counsel to all members- "Accordingly, I draw your attention to the record retention policies set forth in the House Rules. House Rule 14.2 governing legislative business records dictates that records that are required to be created by the House Rules or that are of vital, permanent, or archival value shall be maintained, provided they are of sufficient administrative, legal, or fiscal significance to warrant their retention. "Accordingly, you should keep and do not delete any and all records related to redistricting, including copies of unfiled draft maps, unfiled draft bills and amendments, correspondence, emails, texts and other electronic communications, whether sent or received on official House accounts or devices or personal email accounts or devices." The previous is their OWN rules-which they ignored. Perhaps they needed a 'refresher course" in the laws of the State?
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Weatherford and Gaetz are both in the catbird seat; Weatherford's statement that they will indeed, call a special session in order to follow the laws that they previously ignored. Weatherford is APOLOGIZING to these people who are essentially criminals-they willingly and with intent broke the law. He is not repentant of the act, he's sorry they must return to do their jobs-after all, the Legislators no doubt, have summer 'plans' and schedules that will be interrupted. This, for people who work 3 months out of the year! I wonder if the 'help' offered in rearranging their schedules and travel plans will be at taxpayer expense. If such is the case, not only Weatherford, but every one of these Members-millionaires all- should be fired immediately. Had the Republicans done their job correctly, the redistricting process would currently not be in such disarray. However,they did not; as Lewis stated, they conspired to deceive the public at all stages of the process. For Weatherford and others to now attempt to carry out an election based on illegally drawn districts is bad enough; for them to use the ballots mailed out to 'our servicemen/women is atrocious in the most blatant sense of self-preservation. The chaos that a delay will cause is of the Republican leadership's making. They intentionally and deliberately skewed the district lines and then, compounding that disastrous and illegal decision, deleted all correspondence, emails, etc.-knowing that appeals would be filed. The Republicans do not feel it incumbent upon themselves to adhere to their own laws of transparency and ethical behavior. The 'citizens" of Florida are sufficiently intelligent enough to be able to ascertain when their Representatives have been caught in illegal acts. The Republicans at the top of the food chain in Tally made a mockery of the ethics and transparency laws -those very laws they are constantly trumpeting as their modus operandi. In this case, they offered the national media a ready-made news bite that should embarrass every citizen in this State-and those politicians who committed such fraud. And Weatherford is complaining about the "upsetting these peoples' travel plans"?? Insofar as the charges that changing the election (dates) will possibly disenfranchise a section of voters in this State-that the "... infrastructure doesn't exist.." to allow a minority group to vote due to problems with travel, work, or other impediments-well, the Republicans themselves ,under Scott, are the creators of this problem. Lest any forget, Scott was responsible for the voter suppression laws enacted shortly after he bought the office. They now are attempting to place blame on others?? How stupid do they think the citizens are?? The entire redistricting process, as conducted, was illegal. The Repubs, however, believe that we the citizens, should accept their illegally drawn maps and vote in what essentially is a fraudulent election? I would like to see them appeal Lewis' ruling; if so, they would be forced to admit guilt-which, if any noted, they have not. They merely said they would, "of course," accept the judge's decision while neither denying nor admitting culpability or wrongdoing. Florida politicians are, if nothing else, Masters of Hyperbole; they lie using word salad, hoping that none are aware of the deception. As Lewis said, they conspired to deceive the voters ; while he said he was unable to prove "intent" at this juncture, he suspected as much (well, DUH!)by the deliberate deletion of all correspondence associated the process while knowing appeals would be filed. With people such as these in power and making the laws, Florida truly deserves the moniker of 'corruption'. This is the norm in Tallahassee; it should not and must not be acceptable to the voters. (@ James-ed jenkins isn't worth your time or effort-he continuously mistakes this section of the paper for the comics. At times, his comments ARE quite comical. I think he has a file where he copies his 'comment" of the day and then pastes it-lol )
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I find the fact that the top echelon of the Florida legislature thought it unnecessary to follow the law as defined by the following: " Accordingly, I draw your attention to the record retention policies set forth in the Senate Rules. Senate Rule 1.48(3) governing district office records involving legislative business dictates that records required by law be kept until they become obsolete. As the previous was in the memo sent our by President of the Senate, Don Gaetz, and Steve Godwin, deputy General Counsel, One would reasonably assume that these same Legislators would have retained all records, emails, correspondence, etc., when they were in the process of re-drawing the Districting maps. Instead, these members decided to delete all; as Judge Lewis asked, why did these people allow such egregious violations to occur in the first place and why did they not-question any part of the process? They have stated that they knew an appeal was likely; why then, the secrecy behind closed-door sessions and the deletion of all documents? I think the citizens are sufficiently intelligent enough to ascertain the answers to these rhetorical questions-the Republicans in the Legislature did indeed, not only deceive the public of their actions, but also "conspired" to hide their methodology in the redistricting process. It will be interesting to see whether this seemingly cocksure Republican-dominated Legislature decides to appeal the ruling; if so, they run the real risk of the citizens learning just how /why they felt the need to act so. I don't believe Gaetz, Weatherford, et al really wish to put this out on public display; if they do, they will be forced to admit guilt as to the intent of their actions. As of yet, none have actually admitted such-the statements were "..we will comply with the Judge's ruling.." If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and "smells" like a duck, it probably IS a duck. The 'leadersip' in this State apparently thinks and certainly acts as though they are not bound by their own rules of ethical and transparent behavior. Fun days ahead folks! I wonder if the next elections will be carried out via the letter and intent of the law- in other words-LEGAL. Stay tuned...
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@ Keith Stegath-I've taken a prolonged look-see @ your page; I am duly impressed at your accomplishments and obvious qualifications. Unfortunately, I cannot waste a vote on anyone other than Crist-even though I must pinch my nostrils quite hard in order to do so. Think I may also need to actually turn my head away when I fill in that little circle. God knows, I wish the Dems had a truly honorable candidate; alas, such a being is not to found in the ranks of ANY "politicians". Were that such a situation did not exist.. however.I wish you well in all your endeavors-I don't suppose you'd like to re-locate to NW Florida and perhaps take a shot at unseating OUR "representatives" ? The Gaetz clan, Jeff Miller, Steve Southerland.. the list is long, but all died-in-the-wool-teabagger Repugs. They all claim to be the best Christians who ever walked the earth-other than , well, you know..Don't believe any are above hypocrisy, though. Sigh. Good Luck-but, please, don't siphon any votes from Charlie-this State desperately needs ANYONE other than Ricky.(even if he is, as his Mother proclaimed in a TV ad last year, "a GOOD Boy".) Perhaps she sees a side that no one else can glimpse?
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Like Marvin, I, too, am NOT a Florida native, although I have resided in the State for over 22 years.Sigh. The military brought our family here and somehow, we never managed to be able to leave-yet. Hope springs eternal.. I also agree with Marvin's points concerning the constitutionality of so many of the battles currently being waged at taxpayer expense-including ed's. Federal law trumps State law-no matter how much Scott, Bondi and their ilk try to circumvent it. Were that the case, Mr. ed, women would still be chattel and slavery would be legal, amongst other RIGHTS that are enumerated in the Constitution, the Amendments to that document, and the Bill of Rights. I do believe that Repubs greatest wish is to obliterate the Constitution and replace it with THEIR own ideas of how to govern a nation-all at the CITIZENS' expense, of course.They merely cannot really decide WHAT they want, though, hence our Congress is the most ineffective in the history of the country-due solely to Repub obstructionism. I have discovered, ed, that Florida is not quite the "family-friendly" state you erroneously seem to think. When the Republican Legislators-millionaires all-decide not to extend health benefits to more than a million or more of the State's poorest, I cannot deem THAT action "friendly". When those same legislators "conspire" to deceive the citizens deliberately and willfully by enacting laws dreamed up in back rooms far from the public eye-and certainly not transparent-I call that rank deception-not "friendly". When a group of "cartographers", hired by these same legislators draw maps that are not only illegal, but specifically violate those citizens Fair Districting Amendment in order to protect incumbents, I do not call that fair-or legal-or "friendly". When these same people then try to pass their version of an "ethics" bill, crow about such in their "hometown papers", I see a great divide between their ideas of "ethical" behavior and the citizens. That, ed, is NOT friendly at all. ed, I would suggest that you study a bit more-perhaps read a bit more than what you "find" in YOUR hometown paper. I'm sure(?) you're aware that the SCOTUS overturned DOMA-which effectively ended the legal forms of discrimination in who can/cannot marry-and take advantage of the civil liberties afforded heterosexual couple as THEIR right. (even if those same couples have the morals of a rabbit, although I may be maligning the bunnies. As Marvin noted, one's local leadership/elections play a much larger role in our daily lives-much more so than the inept and useless politicians in Washington. I urge all to vote in your local elections-they do matter. ed, I truly wish you would avail yourself of learning a bit more about many subjects; a more open mind-on many subjects may grant YOUR mind a measure of peace, which you seemingly lack. You appear to harbor an irrational dislike for anyone who disagrees with your peculiar notions of what is perverted-or not. Finally, ed, I would suggest you may wish to sit in on a refresher course in basic English grammar; your skills seem to be a bit rusty. I believe most schools offer adult education classes at a reasonable rate. (Some are even free.)
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ed jenkins, you cannot possibly be as ignorant as your posts indicate; those 'cartographers' who illegally re-drew the districting maps willfully and "...with intent did conspire to deceive the voters of this State..". that is only PART of the stinging condemnation which Judge Lewis handed to the rogue legislators in Tallahassee. So far, the guilty parties have yet to issue either an apology for their illegal acts or an admission of their complicity in such. Their modus operandi seems to be to say nothing-other than Gaetz' offer to revise the maps at some future point in time. What these people-legislators , not a "few cartographers"- did was ignore both the intent and the law in the voter-passed Fair Districting Amendment. You know?-all those "citizens" for whom you apparently are able to divine intentions and concerns in ALL matters.. Sure wish I knew your secret for THAT ! As an aside-the 'group' you constantly reference who 'claims to represent one sex of voters' is neither small nor ineffective. The League of Women Voters has considerable clout in the political process;the ACLU also claims far more members than you seem to think-they, too, have the political clout to exert a great deal of influence. Finally, I will remind you of the difference between "sex" and "gender"-the terms are NOT interchangeable. Perhaps you can remember that,if nothing else).
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if Lewis fails to appoint a Special Master or an 'expert (?) to revise these maps, the voters in Florida will again be forced to participate (if they vote) in an election that is based on unconstitutional districting. The Repubs who first conspired to deceive the voters accomplished this with no transparency. If these same illegal districts are used in the upcoming elections, one would surmise the results would then be adjudicated as invalid since the process itself is tainted. What then, Judge Lewis? Another election with revised maps? When would such elections occur and would all districts be participants or "only" the 2 which were identified as illegally drawn? What about the neighboring districts that will necessarily be affected? A conundrum indeed-and one the "leaders" in the Florida legislature intentionally created. What a slew of slimy monsters the Republicans in the Legislature have unleashed on the citizens of the family-friendly State of Florida..They should feel completely comfortable with their pets,however; the monsters are clearly visible in their mirrors.
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for the regular commenter on these ages, the "citizens' of Flori-DUH have a great interest in the political leaders of other nations. The Us has trade agreements with most-have you heard the term, 'global economy"? The exchange between the idiot teabagger who replaced the addict and 2 highly placed government officials would almost comical were it not apparent to all of his astounding ignorance. He owes a public apology to both these people. How extremely patronizing. Wonder if he raised his voice so they could better understand English? And THIS is indicative of the intelligence of the majority of the teabag right-wingers who are taking over the Repub party?? Oh, no-they aren't racist. Oh, no, they aren't prejudiced. Oh yes they are ! To a teabagger, the color of a person's skin defines them . Flori-duh deserves every epithet thrown its way. When ignoramuses like this are in the Legislature and making the laws? How/WHY did this man survive high school? Must have received his 'education' in Flori-DUH..
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an addendum-posted late. I was for some reason, unable to post this reply to MarvinM and Hmmm earlier. And, to Bill Thompson-you, sir are right! thThe grammatical errors and the run-on sentences would caused my high school English teacher to stroke out. Both edjenkins and "D" should be barred from posting-if the Miami Herald actually adhered to its own rules of conduct for such..7/24/14 Kudos to those who still have compassion-not to mention a knowledge of the law or current events. For those such as ed jenkins, and Hmmmm, I hope neither of you ever find yourselves in need of help, in this case, more rightly called salvation-and certainly not in a Biblical sense- such as these children. Yes, you're correct. Not ALL of the refugees are infants and young children; however, the majority are. In any population, even in the US,a cohort as large as this will undoubtedly have medical issues. I do not however, believe the majority of these children are carrying diseases to which we in the US are susceptible. Remarkably, even the most horrible (in US eyes) 3rd world nations, now have a vaccination rate higher than that in the good ol' US of A. You're more likely to contract measles, mumps, rubella, pertussis etc. right here-thanks to the idiots who are the anti-vaccine nuts who have been the direct cause of outbreaks of diseases that had been eradicated here until the last few years. And they CERTAINLY are not carrying any diseases that not indigenous to their part of the world-I refer to Louis Gohmert's ridiculous assertions of Ebola and the like. @ Hmmmm-I do indeed read-very carefully-I posit more so than you. I detect hints of the NIMBY in your posts. One very important point I will bring to your attention-had YOU been reading more carefully, you would be aware that these REFUGEES are NOT illegals. THEY ARE HERE LEGALLY.Read-CAREFULLY- the post by MarvinM-you actually may learn something. While I am extremely happy for you that you and your family managed to successfully navigate the hurdles of the immigration process, do not assume that others are either as fortunate or that they are necessarily "illegal". You may have heard-on the news-or read, if you do, that many of these (mostly) children do indeed have relatives in this country. Are YOU willing to send family members back-after the tortuous journey they already endured- to die? That IS what will happen. As an American, I am not. I suppose I did indeed come to live here-legally-since I was born here and my history traces back a couple hundred years. My ancestors , however, certainly were not Native Americans. So, I suppose that makes ME an immigrant also. The suggestions posted by MarvinM are on target. Everyone from the the President to politicians who play to their right-wing constituents on down the food chain-to people such as ed jenkins and you- need to pay attention. THAT is what NEEDS to be done. Will it? Not in this State. Nor, apparently, in many areas of this country. The nation that welcomes all, remember? Or did in the past... As an aside to all who do post on these pages-I would suggest that all who are offended by the comments made by the anonymous "D",which are always the same and directed personally at another-to write a short email to the editor, or the writer of the column itself. People such as this do not deserve the print space and they are definitely abusing the intent. I already have sent a complaint-I will send more until this poster is banned. (ed jenkins is merely an entertainment; he doesn't have the wit to offend because he merely copies/pastes and inserts the theme of the day. I AM sorry however-I called him "Mr. Ed" once. I tendered appropriate apologies to the horse. ) I seem to have written yet another diatribe; I tend to do so when I become properly excised about an issue. I apologize for the length of my posts, but I mean every word I post. Thanks for the Kudo- MarvinM. you ,Sir,are a Gentleman. Perhaps you would consider running for office? Florida desperately needs someone with common sense and dignity.
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For the attorney for the very ones who did their damnedest to deceive-deliberately and with forethought and intent- the voters in this State to now claim that a demand for re-drawing of the districts that were POLITICALLY gerrymandered by the top 3 in the Republican Legislature is a ploy to" blow up the map" for political purposes is the most hypocritical garbage these people have spewed yet! I wonder that any-especially Meros,as an attorney- could speak these words with a straight face. Gaetz and Weatherford, as the primary architects of this flagrant attempt to circumvent the Fair Districting Amendment, as so ruled by Judge Lewis,show neither remorse nor apology for their actions. They knew full well what they did was illegal; they hoped they wouldn't get caught. Every member of the Fl. Legislature who has a thumbprint on this issue should be forced out of office. The electorate of this State deserve better than these "leaders" who are criminals-by their very actions they should be classified as such. They cheated, they lied, and then tried to cover up their perfidy. I am one Floridian who is absolutely furious that any politician would do such-and knowing his actions were illegal, and would necessarily provoke an appeal, deleted all traces of evidence he could. What is worse-Gaetz et al now want to hold the upcoming elections in these VERY GERRYMANDERED DISTRICTS-and uses the excuse of the ballots that MAY have been cast by military members.?? To use the military as an excuse to hold an election in an illegally drawn map is the height of political nefarious conduct. They ought to be ashamed of and disgusted with themselves-I certainly am. Every one of them should be sent slinking back to the slime pits from which they crawled. Every voter in this State-both Republican and Democrat- should be howling with outrage. These men not only made this State the national standard of political corruption, but they also defiled the office and the system itself. If any ever needed yet another valid reason to clean our political house, this is it.
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Scott knows full well-as does the Repug Party-that he cannot escape his perfidy and his guilt in the HCA debacle. He and the rest of the Repubs are now trying to hold on to the slight lead-if Wylie and rich were to retire from this race, Crist would have no trouble at overcoming Scott's lead. The man BOUGHT this office and has, for the last 3 years, increased his and his corporate friends' portfolios and net worth tremendously. None of those $$ will be spent to help the citizens of the State of Florida-nor will it stay in-State. For Scott to cast aspersions on Crist-calling HIM a mudslinger-is one of the more hypocritical statements to come from ANYONE in the Fl. Repug Party.
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