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People are getting too high on Amare. First of all if he comes now, that would mean that he will most likely invoke his 17 mil player option for next year. Which would have us stuck with him no matter what. I personally don't have much faith in him. He's only averaging 20pts and 8reb in the inflated Suns system. that's not too impressive. I wouldn't mind him for this year without losing Beasley. But I'm not ready to take him for the long run atleast as of now. compare 20.6pts 8.4reb at age 27 to Beasley: 16.2pts 6.8reb at age 21 It's definitely not worth it with Beasley involved. But even without, I'm not sure for the long run.
Posted by: kbboy80 | January 27, 2010 at 10:52 PM ----------------------- I have always said this. It absolutely makes no sense to run those same old pick-n-roll plays, especially with people who can't do much with them. Why not more Beasley/Wade pick-n-roll. Lately I'm starting to see every once in a while. We need more of those, that's what they should be practicing.
will this team ever win five in a row? 500. basketball is depressing. Posted by: keywanb | January 27, 2010 at 10:44 PM --------------------------- Forget five, we haven't even won 4 in a row yet. Heck I'll even take 3 right about now, and I better see us win the next 3. No excuses: @Detroit @Milwaukee V.Milwaukee
"Upon his second-quarter return, Beasley had a few of those moments that make you appreciate the lack of patience, from misplaying a Raptors inbounds on their baseline to his inability to contain Patrick O'Bryant." Let the Ira bashing begin!!!! You gotta be kidding me! Not one comment on how our 7 year veteran was getting abused trying to defend. Posted by: Chalmers sucks | January 27, 2010 at 09:54 PM --------------------------- Probably the saddest thing about that quote is that Patrick O'Bryant didn't even play today. It was Amir Johnson. But Ira has to make it look worse somehow.
We have to win our next 3 games: @Detroit @Milwaukee v.Milwaukee There are no excuses for losing these games (as long as Beasley gets back). Especially since Toronto has a very home heavy schedule coming up.
quarter of Mario Chalmers, Dorell Wright, Udonis Haslem, Joel Anthony and Jones. And, no, it did not work out very well, with the Heat going from a 34-23 lead at the end of the first to 38-34 before Spoelstra called time with 8:20 to play in the second. ------------- Well considering Spotard usually plays the game through Haslem, Chalmers and Joel on that unit why would anyone expect him to make any adjustments? As far as Spotard is concerned the primary go to players on that unit are still there. Posted by: WadeLikesHisShots | January 27, 2010 at 09:31 PM --------------------------- Why couldn't JO be put in that line up. Can we have atleast one scorer.
Heat don't have the talent to be an effective run and gun team. Wade's not the type of point guard I'd want running it, the shooters are not good enough to space the floor, and the bigs can't rebound/run well enough. Posted by: Chris | January 27, 2010 at 04:40 PM ------------------------- Just felt like chiming in: Would you have Wade waste his superior scoring abilities by being the facilitator in a run and gun offense, work from the pg spot. I have no doubt he can do it, but it's not worth it, because it takes away from his scoring.
Ok, I just watched the game, I had recorded it. Is is ok for a grown man to cry after this loss? Because that's what I feel like doing. Please send some words of encouragement.
David Thorpe has no clue. Below is his article from Jan. 15,2010 from ESPN. It's an insider article so I posted the entire thing. =========================== Sophomore 20: Large and in charge By David Thorpe Even though Derrick Rose and a few other second-year guards are playing great ball, the bigs are still the story for this class. So for this Sophomore 20 report, I've ranked the top big men and top guards separately. For the bigs, there are 10 deserving candidates. For the guards, there is a major dropoff in production after the top 5. Let's take a look. Top 10 bigs 1. Marc Gasol, Grizzlies Although he was limited to three straight sub-double-digit scoring games recently, Gasol has been a rock for Memphis all season long. He is averaging almost 15 points and 10 rebounds a game. Bigs who require double-teams on offense but don't normally need help defending the post are a coach's dream. Gasol fits that bill. The Grizzlies will need him to produce if they want to remain in playoff contention -- he averages 16 points per game in wins and 13 in losses. That's a big swing. 2. Brook Lopez, Nets Lopez's success last season was no fluke. He's very good. That he's playing for the worst team in the league shouldn't change our opinion of him. Although he's not shooting well from midrange, he's killing people down low and blocking two shots a game. As the Nets' franchise center, he needs to be the guy who leads the team back to respectability. A tough self-critic, Lopez is sometimes too focused on his own play and not focused enough on his whole team. 3. Kevin Love, Timberwolves The best rebounding forward in basketball, Love is already a master of positioning. And a few more seasons of leaning out and getting more athletic will serve him well. If someone were to ask me who will have the most rebounds this decade, I'd probably say Love or Dwight Howard. In addition, Love is a solid paint scorer who is starting to get to the free throw line with more frequency -- this is an important part of his overall development. He has earned a double-double in all but five games this season. 4. Danilo Gallinari, Knicks Gallo still looks like the best shooter in this class despite his 0-for-7 outing in Oklahoma City on Monday. And like great shooters do, he has been able to bounce back from poor showings with strong performances. Check out what he did after three games in which he missed all of his 3-pointers: On November 21, he made 3 of 8 shots from deep. On November 29, he made 4 of 5. And on December 17, he roasted the Bulls with 6 3s in 15 attempts. 5. Michael Beasley, Heat Beasley may have some consistency issues off the court, in terms of focus and work ethic, but not on the court. Look at his monthly totals: In November, he averaged 14.2 ppg and 6.6 rpg; in December, he averaged 17.3 ppg and 6.6 rpg; and through seven games in January, he is averaging at 17.3 ppg and 6.7 rpg. Those are solid numbers for a No. 2 guy on a playoff team. One of the best young bucket-getters in basketball, he's shooting well from the field, too. If he cuts down his 3-point attempts (16 for 59), he'd be even more effective. 6. Roy Hibbert, Pacers Hibbert is becoming an important piece on the Pacers, albeit a situational one at times. He's had some terrific games against teams with legitimate big men inside, like his 26 and 8 game against Orlando and his 21 and 7 against Minnesota. But against smaller teams, like Toronto, he barely plays. Overall, he's been just as productive as last season. And since he's getting nine more minutes a game than he did in his rookie season, his stats are better. But as the Pacers look to the future, it's still not clear if he's more than just an effective role player. 7. Jason Thompson, Kings Thompson looked like a lock for this year's rook-soph game. However, he is really struggling now, averaging only 8.5 ppg and 7.3 rpg in January. What's worse is that his foul problems have increased -- he's averaging four a game in just 28 minutes. The Kings thought they had their power forward of the future. But Thompson must fight for his spot going forward; Sacramento will likely be able to land a starting 4 through free agency or the draft if it so chooses. 8. Ersan Ilyasova, Bucks Ilyasova appears to have hit a wall, averaging just 6 ppg in the new year after scoring 11.9 ppg in each of the season's two previous months. In fact, going back to December 21, he had five different games where he made just one field goal. Part of his problem is shot selection -- almost half of his shot attempts have been 3s lately; in November and December, 3s accounted for only 35 percent of his overall shots. He's at his best when he's moving and finding shots inside the perimeter, as he's an excellent finisher. 9. Ryan Anderson, Magic Struggling since Rashard Lewis returned to the lineup, Anderson averaged only 6.8 ppg on 33.3 percent shooting from 3 in December. So, he was benched for two games last week. The Magic promptly lost at home to Toronto then again at Washington, so Van Gundy put Anderson back into the lineup. He responded by scoring 26 points in the next two games combined, making 4 of his 8 3-point attempts. And the Magic won both games. That is how you earn back rotation minutes. 10. Anthony Randolph, Warriors Before going down with an ankle injury, if any player deserved more playing time, it was Randolph. Consider that his minutes had gone down to 19 per game this month and that he still averaged almost 12 ppg -- the same as he did with more playing time in November and December. His rebounds per game had been almost exactly the same from month to month as well. Many young players let the roller coaster of playing time negatively impact their performance, but Randolph has avoided that with smarter shot selection despite the reduction in minutes. He may have some maturity issues behind the scenes, but any GM would be proud of a young player who has remained committed to getting better in an environment as strange as Golden State's. Top 10 guards 1. Russell Westbrook, Thunder Westbrook has been a better all-around player this season and it's showing in his stats and in the Thunder's win column. Exactly a year ago, Oklahoma City had a total of six wins. Six. It currently has 21. The quarterback for his team, Westbrook is as much a reason for the Thunder's success as Scott Brooks or Kevin Durant. His turnover rate (11.1) is down, his assist rate (26.7) is up and he can still score 25-plus points when necessary. If you ever read about the impossibility of teaching a 2-guard to play the point, just revel in what's going on in Oklahoma City. 2. Derrick Rose, Bulls Ah, normalcy reigns again in this report. After ranking 12th on this list last month, the reigning Rookie of the Year is moving up the charts. He has been the catalyst for the resurgence in Chi-town, scoring 21.3 points a game on 51.4 percent shooting this month -- not an easy feat considering teams still lay in wait for him. It's hard to balance scoring and setting guys up when you are as explosive off the dribble as Rose is, but he's learning to do just that. And his shot looks smoother, too. He may never see the floor the way Steve Nash, Chris Paul or Deron Williams do, but he sees it well enough to be a fun guy to play with. I like him as a player more now than ever. 3. Eric Gordon, Clippers Gordon is averaging 17 points per game and has a true shooting percentage of 58.7. Only one other shooting guard in the league is averaging more than 12 points a game with a true shooting percentage that high. Ray Allen, who averages 16.5 points a game and also boasts a 58.7 TS%. That's pretty special company for an undersized shooter like Gordon. And Gordon is so much more than a shooter. He also gets to the line, where he averages almost four made free throws a game. And he's one of the more dynamic transition players in the NBA, too, as his strong build, combined with his agility and body control, make him very difficult to stop when he pushes the ball. He's still a bit of an "either/or" guy -- he either takes the 3 or drives to the rim -- but it seems only a matter of time before he improves his midrange game. 4. O.J. Mayo, Grizzlies If the 3-point contest were held tonight, Mayo would be the favorite. He's making 54.8 percent from behind the arc since Jan. 1. But the thing I like the most when I watch Mayo now is how invested he seems to be in winning. Despite all the hype that surrounded him in his rookie season, he doesn't appear to have any obvious issues conceding to the likes of Zach Randolph, Rudy Gay and even Marc Gasol. Mayo could easily be a top-two or top-three option on a number of teams, but he is basically No. 4 in Memphis. Accepting a lesser role has helped turn the Griz into a potential playoff team, and he deserves some credit for it. 5. George Hill, Spurs Hill is having an outstanding January, combining hot shooting with solid and sometimes spectacular defense. He's shooting 25 of 37 from the field (7 of 12 from 3) this month while playing over 20 minutes a night for a team that's won 12 of its last 16. His accuracy from deep and energy on D make him a perfect role player in San Antonio. The 26th pick in the 2008 draft, Hill is another example of the Spurs getting great value for their selections. 6. Jerryd Bayless, Blazers Bayless has been a strong part of Portland's rejuvenated rotation, where he finds way to score from the perimeter, on drives and, of course, from the free throw line. He's taken 124 free throws in 560 minutes, whereas Mayo has only 121 free throw attempts in over 1,400 minutes. If Bayless can develop a consistent shot, his value would jump way up. 7. Mario Chalmers, Heat In our rookie report last year, we mentioned that even though Chalmers was starting at point guard, he was not playing well enough to guarantee himself that spot in the future. That future arrived last weekend in the form of Rafer Alston, and now Chalmers is battling Carlos Arroyo for the backup spot. He's in the lead now, but that probably will be a race that goes back and forth until April. 8. Chris Douglas-Roberts, Nets With the strong play of Yi Jianlian, who is getting some of the offense run through him in New Jersey, CDR's numbers have taken a hit. He's scoring just 10 points a game this month and his three-point outing against Boston on Wednesday marked a season low. He can still get buckets if given a chance, but it appears the Nets see him ultimately as a bench player. 9. Courtney Lee, Nets Defense is still his strong suit -- he's among the league's top 20 in steals per game and is the Nets' best perimeter shut-down guy. But his offense is improving, too, with better shot selection and a stronger eye for passing. He recently set a career high in points (28) and in 3s made (5), so perhaps he's close to breaking out as a shooter. His current 12.00 PER is also a career high. 10. Anthony Morrow, Warriors Morrow has seen fewer shots and minutes ever since Stephen Curry started to come on strong. His last 20-plus point game was back on December 2 and his scoring average has dipped below 8 ppg this month. http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insider/columns/story?columnist=thorpe_david&page=Sophs-100115&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba%2finsider%2fcolumns%2fstory%3fcolumnist%3dthorpe_david%26page%3dSophs-100115
Gay is a better all around player then Durant(Who isn't clutch.) Posted by: HeatDolphans#1 | January 24, 2010 at 07:29 PM -------------------------- Come on man, Durant has made more clutch shots than lebron the past two years. Just because he missed his recent shot doesn't make him non-clutch.
amare 3 rebounds in 24 minutes. ok. listening to JD. i will never entertain the thought of amare or bosh playing center in miami. Posted by: TylerD | January 23, 2010 at 12:24 AM --------------------------- Don't throw Bosh under the bus so quick, he is averaging 24 and 11, shooting 43% from 3, and 52% overall.
but amare will probably get a max contract from phoenix and he still won't have to play any defense. he can get a max contract and all he has to do is run up the court and do a pick n roll with nash. i still think that miami should get bosh to play center with beas at PF, but if it doesn't work out, trade beasley to get a center. Posted by: TylerD | January 22, 2010 at 11:41 PM --------------------------- Agreed for the most part, but Suns have been known to be cheap, so I wouldn't be completely surprised if they just try to scrap it all. And Yes, Bosh should be first, I definitely think he can play center, especially with the added size. But I'm not too sure about trading Beasley for a center, unless it's Dwight (yeah right). Centers are a dying breed and a solid center is good enough, you don't need a great center anymore. However if we can get Lebron than I wouldn't mind trading Beasley for better help to suit Wade and Lebron. I realize I started rambling a bit at the end, so sorry about that.
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but i would like for amare to be our center. Posted by: TylerD | January 22, 2010 at 11:14 PM --------------------------- Yeah I wouldn't mind that either, but dude really has to start plaing some defense. It's not like he doesn't have the ability. There's no reason for him to not average 10 rebounds and maybe even a block or two per game.
why on earth is amare starting center in the west ahead of bynum? amare is a PF. Posted by: TylerD | January 22, 2010 at 10:31 PM --------------------------- Yes, Amare at C is complete BS. But I don't think Bynum should be starting either, he's way too much potential and not enough talent at this point in his career. The starter should most likely be Kaman, he's playing better than any other center in the West, and is arguably the best offensive center in the league.
Freakin Pau he made the freethrows against us, but misses it against the Cavs.
This is why finesse doesn't work, Pau.
PRIDE is what needs to exude from his pores when he steps on the court, pride to go for nothing less than 40! Posted by: AJP | January 21, 2010 at 01:41 AM --------------------------- I think that's where you and I disagree. I don't think pride is about getting yours but instead, efficiently handling your business, while doing all you can to help the less fortunate (the rest of the Heat), and most importantly getting a win.
Nothing less than 40 points..... Posted by: AJP | January 21, 2010 at 01:24 AM -------------------------- Well, I won't put a number but I want him to be very efficient, like the Indiana game. And ofcourse the win is more important than anything else.
Wade needs to look in the mirror and ask does he have the balls to carry the mantle of "BIW". Posted by: AJP | January 21, 2010 at 01:18 AM --------------------------- I agree, and I think we'll get the answer Friday in Washington.
Posted by: AJP | January 21, 2010 at 12:53 AM --------------------------- I'm not arguing that he has to show some more pride out there, I definitely agree with you on that. But things like this happen. Wade did score 50 against Orlando last year, ina game we lost by like 25, and everyone was on his case about him just padding his stats. So, i just don't think it's that simple. Having said that I am curious to see how he come out next game, if he lays an egg there, then you might be on to something. And regarding Jordan. First of all I don't think you can ever compare anyone to Jordan but even then, Jordan was still human and it wasn't until Jordan got manhandled by the Pistons two years in a row, that he realized what he needs to do to win, which isn't always scoring his way out of situations. But I agree Wade needs to show more pride, and lets hope he does that against Washington on Friday.
Are you dumb? We werent down 40 and if he is the "BIW" he needs to act like it. Jordan would have went for 50 before letting te BOBCATS beat him by 40 Posted by: AJP | January 21, 2010 at 12:33 AM --------------------------- I agree to an extent, but if he had done that then everyone would be saying that all Wade cares about is himself and getting his stats. When in reality that's what separates him from Lebron in my opinion. Should have seen Lebron yesterday trying to get his triple double, and how pissed he was that he gobbled the last rebound, in a game they were winning. And as far as Jordan goes, early in his career, he was all about getting his stats as well. No doubt he's amazing but, dude loved to get his points early in his career. I know people will be pissed at me for saying this but it's true.
Are Bobcats really this good. Right now they're the hottest team in the league, 9-1 in their last 10 games. Is this an aberration or what? They're next three games will be telling as they play Atlanta, Orlando, and Denver. Let's hope this is all a fluke, but at 9-1 in the last 10, that's pretty impressive.
Man, that Anthony Morrow thing still pisses me off. He's shooting ove 43% from 3 this year. That's insane. Plus he has a in between game.