Is EDL causing the Muslim riots in Sweden? Is EDL the reason behind 70 people being killed by car bombs this morning in Baghdad? Is EDL the reason behind the disappearance of 49 MILLION non Muslims in the last few decades from Bangladesh? .....

The very fact that Obama HAS to associate "prevention of violent extremism" ONLY with the Muslim American community and not other communities, like say the Buddhist Americans, says it all.

Had to ask the obvious - Who's looking for those 3 Pakistanis, also mentioned by the Saudis?

i could not find the original news article, but here's a post about it, which is perhaps closer to the truth... From http://www.jihadwatch.org/2003/12/radical-muslim-leader-jihad-means-killing.html ["Chief of banned militant outfit Jaish-e-Mohammed Maulana Masood Azhar has said that in Islam the only meaning of Jihad was killing, even as another militant group supporter asked Pakistan to declare that suicide bombing against West was Jihad." This from Press Trust of India. "In Islam the only meaning of jihad was killing, and those who projected the concepts of Jihad Akbar and Jihad Asghar were against Islam," Azhar was quoted by an Urdu daily Nawa-e-Waqt as saying. ...Not only that: Azhar "said it was a conspiracy against Islam to say that Jihad was not killing." ]

What Obama has achieved is something that the Muslim brotherhood has been trying to do for decades. Effectively, the Muslim Brotherhood has been legitimized, first as the rulers of Egypt (thru the Arab Spring) and now they have been transformed into a significant regional player, as the chosen ones to maintain this faux peace. The Muslim Brotherhood could not have asked for more.

70% of the Jewish vote went to Obama.

Does Marcia Kannry not read or should we simply blame poor genetic material?

From wikipedia.... "In 1951, Hindus constituted 22 percent of the Pakistani population.[2][3] By 1998 the proportion of Hindus was down to around 1.7 percent." - am assuming that this refers to both East and West Pakistan put together. Incidentally, an article on a similar decrease in population in another predominantly Muslim country... Alarming decrease in Hindu population in Bangladesh in http://www.weeklyblitz.net/2597/alarming-decrease-in-hindu-population-in Ethnic and religion driven cleansing out of non-Muslims is habitual in many Muslim societies.

"Where Arab Muslims go, this kind of shit follows." Actually, ethnic cleansing and religion based cleansing out of people is commonplace in many Muslim societies. Unfortunately, we're also seeing that in western societies like France we see no go zones in Muslim areas beginning to appear.

[These men INSIGHT mayhem...] - nobody knows how you "insight" mayhem - truly a muslim invention. A Muslim mother in Australia, puts a placard suggesting "behead all those who insult the prophet" (in public) - shows the degree of malice and hatred, inherent in Muslim societies.

Poor Gustavo with a "college degree" - the rest of the Muslims may soon start handing out muslim nobels for such high levels of achievement!! [The Iraqi Christian community thrived under Saddam Hussein, he was overthrown, and the Sunni insurgency came in, Christians with the Shia majority were attacked] - Sunnis or Shia - Muslims participating in ethnic cleansing is commonplace and usual - after all, hasn't the non-muslim population of Pakistan gone down from somewhere around 17% or so, to less than 5% - seems like Islam seems to be a problem everywhere. Looks like, Muslim societies contribute to humanity, at about the same levels as malaria.

Looks like we have Muslim mongrel teaching the rest of us tolerance... 100,000 co-opts forced out of Egypt in about 6 months after the arab spring Gaza Christians carry out protests to protect themselves from forced conversions Iraqi Christians down by 2/3 of their population in the last decade 66 of 77 grooming cases in the UK, perpetrated by Pakistani Muslims, who form less than 5% of the population In France, 750 no go zones in mostly Muslim zones The problem is the diseased ideology of Islam - criminalizing it, will make the world a better place.

A quick google reveals that Javerea Khan is a Pakistani born Muslim and yes, we can confidently term Pakistanis as savages, if Ms. Javerea has any doubts. When she and her people reach civilization, we'll be happy to let them know.

The moderator in this discussion continuously and erroneously tries to suggest that the ad calls an ethnic or religious groups savages - that is completely untrue and here're the specific talking points that should be used: 1. the ad refers to people demonstrating a particular behavior "savages" - not a religious or ethnic group 2. any group that engages in the "behavior" of jihad, as in those who drove planes into buildings on 9/11, or those who engaged in 19,600 terrorist acts in a little over 10 years or those who are ethnically cleansing out co-opts in egypt, Christians out of gaza/iraq, Hindus/Christians out of Pakistan, are "savages" 3. Calling jihadis "savages" is compareable to calling child-rapists savages. Its is not compareable to calling Irish, Israelis or even Muslims savages Unless we make the above three points consistently and repeatedly - some nitwit or the other is going to keep repeating the refrain of "hai-allah - they called all muslims savages"

Also you cannot make this stuff up - a Pakistani protester died due smoke inhalation from burning a US flag during a protest. More details here http://americanpowerblog.blogspot.com/2012/09/old-glorys-revenge-muslim-protester.html Synopsis from several sources [A Pakistani man, one of approximately 10,000 people participating in an anti-American rally has died. The cause of death? Complications from inhaling smoke after burning an American flag. The Express Tribune, a Pakistani newspaper affiliated with The International Herald Tribune (“The Global Edition of The New York Times”) reported: “ One of the participants of the rally, Abdullah Ismail, passed away after he was taken to Mayo Hospital. Witnesses said he had complained of feeling unwell from the smoke from US flags burnt at the rally. The rally is part of protests, organized by Jamaat-Ud-Dawa, the political arm of the terrorist group Lashkar-e-Taiba. Protesters are allegedly insulted by America’s unwillingness to punish the makers of the film “Innocence of Muslims.” The protesters, demanding respect for and tolerance of Islam, threatened to destroy the U.S. consulate in Pakistan if the United States does not publicly hang the movie’s producer, director, and “all those involved in the production and release of the movie” (which would presumably include Google and YouTube employees). The protesters also will not be satisfied until the United States makes a “law against blasphemy.”]

Oh! and the Pakistani Prime Minister's wife just rewarded a convicted terrorist, who US courts sent to prison for 86 years in 2010...

A couple of days ago, the wife of the Prime Minister of Pakistan felicitated Aafia Siddiqui - a convicted terrorist. Details on Aafia Siddiqui from wikipedia: "On February 3, 2010, she (Aafia Siddiqui) was found guilty of two counts of attempted murder, armed assault, using and carrying a firearm, and three counts of assault on U.S. officers and employees.". Siddiqui has been sentenced to 86 years in prison. More on the news item at: http://tribune.com.pk/story/437401/celebrating-culture-theres-no-shame-in-wearing-a-hijab/ [LAHORE: Nusrat Pervaiz Ashraf, the prime minister’s wife, on Saturday urged Muslim women to wear a hijab, saying that wearing one would not hold them back from achieving their goals. ... Ashraf also presented token awards to Marwa al Sherbini (an Egyptian woman who was killed in 2009 in a German court by a man she had testified against), Yvonne Ridley (a British war correspondent who converted to Islam in 2003), Maryam Jameelah (another convert to Islam and a scholar) and Aafia Siddiqui.]

What Hanif and his kind do not say, is that the reason blasphemy related violence is appreciated and supported in Pakistan, is because of the demented ideology that the people of Pakistan follow. Consider the following: - according to a recent Pew poll, 76% of Pakistanis support the killing of apostates; that is 76% of a country with nearly 190M Muslims. - according to the same poll, 82% of Pakistanis would be happy to stone to death adulterers in their society So, Pakistanis as a people are extremists. Moving along, lets take a look at support for Blasphemy. About 80 years ago, a carpenter called Illumuddin, killed a Hindu in public, for alleged blasphemy. What is interesting is the support and adulation that this murderer of a supposed blasphemer received, including the construction of a permanent monument to commemorate him. Jinnah the founder of Pakistan and Alama Iqbal a noted intellectual, who was a prime moulder of Pakistani mindset, both were strong supporters of Illumudin's act. In fact, even Mohammed Taseer, the father of Salman Taseer (killed recently for supporting a Christian woman) also supported Illumuddin. So, this support for murder for people who allegedly commit Blasphemy is built into Pakistani society. In fact, as far as I know, not one of the people accused of Blasphemy has ever been killed by legal means - but always by through the proactive acts of the average Pakistani. Until, Hanif and his kind can admit that the flaw is in Muslim Pakistanis themselves, this level of delusional thinking and murder will continue.

To give you a sense of how widespread Muslim debauchery is - here's a report on how Hindu minorities are being raped in relief camps in Burma - finally, the Burmese army had to come in and remove the Hindus from the relief camps... See http://www.rakhapura.com/news/263-98-hindu-refugees-evacuated-from-bengali-muslim-camp Will go un-noticed, but the rape of non-Muslim women, forced conversion attempts, mass murder and desecration of places of non-muslim worship, are pretty consistent with Muslim culture. [Khine Myo Min: Myanmar government authority in Sittwe evacuated ninety eight Hindu refugees from Bengali Muslim dominated refugee camps to downtown Sittwe on Wednesday. 98 people from 18 Hindu families were moved from their current shelter of Thae Chaung and Thak Kay Pron camps to Sittwe city due to increased threats by Bengali Muslim extremists after many reported rapes and attempted rapes and tortures committed by the Bengali Muslims who are majority in the camp. The transfer was carried out by two military trucks and the Hindu refugees are now living in a Hindu temple located on Mongbagree road. An officer from Sittwe police station No (1) who do not wish to disclose his identity told RMG that 6 Hindu women including four teenage girls and two house wives were raped by Bengali Muslims during their stay in Thae Chaung camp. "We had to live in a cow butchery. They tried to feed us beef and theaten us with death if we don't convert to Islam. Our kids had to stay inside for 24 hours to avoid beating and other kind of harassment by the Bengali Muslims. The most horrible thing is that our women are being raped one after another and those Bengali Muslim rapists became more daring when the authority did not take any actions. We have to keep guards for days and nights for the safety of our people there. Those periods are really bad in our life.", a Hindu man shared about his experience in Thae Chaung camp. ... It is reported that Bengali Muslims destroyed many Hindu temples during the riot. According to reliable sources, more than 40 Hindus were beheaded and murdered by the Bengali Muslim terrorists in Sittwe, Buthidaung and Maungdaw townships. However, those Hindu victims are not included in the government's official death tolls of the communal riot.]

It seems Muslim organizations have started giving out ultimatums to indigenous BODOs of Assam (who're mostly Hindus and some Christians). While some of the organizations mentioned herein, would like to still maintain a semblance of political correctness, they're not even amongst the more militant Muslim groups like MULTA, which are groups of illegal Muslim settlers, who are asking for sovereign territory on Indian land. Groups like MULTA are actually doing the killing of indigenous Bodos in Assam, India. from http://www.deccanchronicle.com/channels/nation/northeast/cleric-expelled-threat-bodos-751 [The leading Muslim leaders of southern Assam has taken serious note of an inflammatory appeal and quit notice issued to Bodos living in Barrak Valley by All-Assam Imam Parishad (AAIP) and Muslim Youth Students Association. The AAIP executive body, which came to know about the threat, in an emergency meeting on Sunday expelled its president Abdul Basit who issued the “ultimatum” to the Bodos living in Barak Valley districts to “leave the valley within August 25 or face consequences”.]

Suhail seems to have deep connects to CAIR, MB and Pakistan and according to Sperry's recorded quotes of Suhail, a deep and abiding love for murderous mujahideen; too close to terrorist fronts and terrorists to be allowed in civilized society.

Unfortunately, through our silence, we have allowed this kind of behavior to become the "acceptable" normal in many Muslim countries. We used sanctions to kill apartheid - so, why cant we use strong sanctions to fight the "acceptable" desecration of all women in countries like Saudi Arabia or Egypt. How many people know about the "hudood ordinances" in Pakistan - which made it necessary for a rape victim to produce 4 Muslim men of good social standing as witnesses to "prove" rape. And, we pump billions to these countries. Lets at least leverage our aid dollars to ameliorate this "acceptable" discrimination that is now rampant in Muslim countries.

Pamela, I'm not sure that "Salman Tasheer" is quite the moderate that media paints him to be. His illegitimate son writes about him: "'He was Muslim because he doubted the Holocaust, hated America and Israel, thought Hindus were weak and cowardly, and because the glories of the Islamic past excited him...' - Aatish Taseer on Salman Taseer" from http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?240001 For people like you and me, the late Salman Tasheer may not have been all that moderate!!

Pamela, Admire your courage - but, I have a different take on this media shutout and distortion in the MSM Irrespective of what the MSM does or the putrid slant that Geraldo decides to give your presence on Fox - you have already won!! It might not look so yet - but you have. A sample of what is happening: - every action and phrase of the Rauf is being scrutinized. Now, his buddies and associations are being put under the scanner. Of course, its another matter, that the Imam is his own worst enemy - every time he opens his mouth, he says something stupid. - many of our thought leaders have had to comment on this issue (in articles, interviews and blogs) - some of them will take pot shots at you, but they have to force the issue in front of their audiences (even if they distort it). People are not stupid - they will hear different views. - 40,000 people showed up for the demonstration - I would assume an order of magnitude more supporters cheered you from afar - these people will affect another large multiple. Indirectly you're reaching tens of millions (at least). The message is getting through. - people who visit blogs and take the trouble to go beyond MSM; this section of people are taking the trouble to comment on this issue in large numbers - 16000 comments on a single Imam Rauf article on yahoo - that's a lot of surfers taking the time to go beyond taking a glance through the article and actually typing up a comment. - the mosque issue is now being discussed in most other large countries with reasonable sized Muslim populations - from India to Indonesia - irrespective of the focus of the discussion. Who knew about Cordoba or even about victory mosques before this - people (non-muslims) will take another look at these issues. You made this happen. - Here at home, major politicians (and ex politicians) of national stature have felt the need to comment on it. Consider Pelosi - like her or not, she is one of the shrewdest politicians we have in our midst - and she understood right away, that she had to take a stand on the issue. Its another matter that in the long run, her stand will make her look foolish in front of a national audience (although not here in California). Obama and many of our visible leaders have had to take a stand - irrespective of the stand they take - the issue has been nationalized. - yes, CNN gives a positive spin to Imam Rauf - but, they had to put him in front of us - and right on cue, the nitwit made a "appease us Muslims, or we'll have to kill you" comment - the audience, did not miss it. Most probably, Imam will be under pressure to "rectify" the situation well before our November polls, but its too late - as an example, there are about half a dozen articles on the white-washed myths around Cordoba itself. The next person building an "iconic" mosque anywhere in the western world will face the same scrutiny. This battle is won - the war is still to be waged.