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We agree again ak. I am a little higher on Billingsley than you are. To me I think Billingsley is a little more consistent over the course of his career than the other two but I think the upside of Medlen is much higher versus Billingsley. I think Beachy is a guy who is not quite as good as his numbers portend. It's a negligible difference though. Maybe you and I ak could take over this blog- make like a little Great Sports Debate type stuff back and forth.
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aksmith: First off, someone did impersonate me at one point and said nothing but homophobic comments which was neither clever nor funny. Secondly- if someone impersonated me on BL I would think to myself, "Hmm. Someone has taken time to impersonate my fake name on a blog. Says a lot for them." Then I'd go about my day. Thirdly- I agree with you on Vicideo. No real need for him.
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Man aksmith I was even trying to give you a compliment if it was actually you. I assumed it wasn't but I was holding out hope. You should've just accepted the compliment.
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dragon: Someone has to make sure the pipes don't freeze up. Seriously though- I'm done trying to engage Tal. He wants to just post articles here for his zero readers and then drift away until it is time to post another terrible article. I asked him for proof people click the links- he has none. So clearly we are dealing with a delusional weirdo who is so insecure that he has to make up readers of his articles on a dead site because his other efforts- like begging Crashburn Alley to be a writer- didn't work. More power to him.
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Tal: Let's be factual here. I actually read like 2-3 of your articles. I read what was contained in another one as someone outlined your argument. All I asked from the start was that you actually comment on the subjects at hand and try to engage in actual discussions with all of us here. Some will disagree at times and some will agree. But anytime someone disagrees with you your response is "I'm a baseball man and it is my opinion and if you want to read what everyone else says it is out there." That is absurd and it is insulting to so many posters here because it is you trying to make yourself superior to them. Also, when I disagreed with you on your whole logic of "The Phillies knew MAG was hurt so they made an offer to get rid of competition and then really negotiated," i asked for proof and tried to debate it with you. Your response was to get offended that I disagreed with you and then you ran away until your next week of clickbait. Also, you have no readers from here. if you do- prove it. Simple facts are- you don't have readers here and are just trying to draw more eyeballs to your website. If you have so many readers than engage with them there. People here don't need the links every week. if they are that interested in what you have to say they know where your website is and can find it. I will ask you again to avoid clickbaiting the site. Just come here and talk to us about real issues.
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Tal: I am through being nice to you Jerry Anthony. Your articles suck. No one has any kind of interest in them. As you can see they generate no discussion or interest here and on the rare occasion someone read it and disagreed with you it caused you to begin whining about the articles and litter the threads with even more inane arguments than your article has. You are a terrible writer and the fact that you even have a website that allows you to post your articles is proof that you must have pictures of them in compromising positions because no rational human being would read your idiotic drivel and think "We have to get this posted immediately." Beerleaguer is and always has been a wonderful site. Even at its worst it still provided insight, humor, and thoughtful discussions which are three things nothing you have ever dribbled from your mind to computer will do. This site and the readership here (even the ones I am not in agreement with) deserve better than you turning this page into click bait for your stupid articles. Just stop it and go away. I assure you that you will not be missed in any way.
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awh: I would venture it is the same blind optimism that led to Charlie Brown always thinking THIS was the time he would kick that football Lucy was holding.
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aksmith: If you read one of his articles you would realize that not a lot of his free time goes into those articles. They can't take more than 10 minutes to vomit onto the Internet. I find the apologists there charming in some ways but they go way overboard. I do find some joy in it all though because all the years that I was labeled an apologist by guys like you and BAP and the like. Go there and you see an apologist. But yes- they are tiring because they just basically have a silly thought and then shout louder and longer than anyone else. Also, c'mon- even you had to chuckle at fake aksmith's 1:02 PM post from today.
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The aksmith imposter is way more interesting than aksmith. I however would much rather read real aksmith posts if it meant Tal stopped posting links to his terrible articles here. If someone reads it please don't critique it because Tal will get his panties in a wad over it.
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I'm game Lorecore. How bout loser has to read and summarize Tal Venada's crappy articles for a month?
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Thank god for BL. I like TGP as well but there are some posters there with heavy blinders on and I have spent two days arguing now with people who feel Amaro is using solid negotiating tactics by telling Howard they would be better without him. Then phrozen took the conversation in all kinds of directions and then took to saying I wasn't acting "fvcking gracious." So for those keeping score "saying Amaro is a boob is offensive but cursing is fine." that is some stupid Tal Venada logic being deployed there.
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Yeah that looked bad when it started redirecting to CSNphilly
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As some time has passed with these transactions, I can't help but think that the 'rebuild' was announced in large part due to fidcal issues including another large projected drop in gate revenue and getting squeezed before the new tv deal with Comcast kicks in. Oh bullsh!t!!!! You've been calling this a fiscal issue for two years now.
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The Phillies FO doesn't know or doesn't care about WAR. That is how they keep their jobs.
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Oh boy! GTown and Will S are back The nonsense floodgates are opened
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Juums: I'm uncertain about the Bastardo deal as well. The guy does not seem like any great shakes but like I said- we needed to do something. I am not a fan of trading BAstardo (or Rollins) for the sake of it but this team was circling the drain now for a while. It was time to do something. It was time a long time ago actually.
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MG: I have no idea what they could have done at the trade deadline last year. All I know is people are saying Amaro had outrageous demands and he said people weren't aggressive enough. My guess is what we get for Rollins is more in line with what we were going to actually get in July of last year. To me- this is all necessary in order to get some young guys into this system and begin taking a new direction because the old one was not working anymore. I choose to not speculate on things that are just that.
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"Funny/sad thing is that Bastardo and JRoll likely have more value at the trade deadline last year and Amaro asked too much or could have made a more compelling case to JRoll ...." All baseless speculation possibly too.
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What does this mess even mean MG: "Are you seriously going to argue that shouldn't a move wouldn't be just really a salary dump by the Phils?"
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One year old scouting report on Joely Rodriguez from Fangraphs. http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/joely-rodriguez-power-lefty-of-note/ This past year he regressed a little in Double A as his walks and hits per 9 went up. Seems like a slightly intriguing guy and does help bridge the gap on starting pitching depth in the minors.
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What is an acceptable deal to you then MG? What if a team only wants Rollins and not a "bundle?"
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MG: What do you have against getting back guys in Single A who are somewhere on the lottery ticket scale? You always frame these things as if that is a terrible return for a player. Rollins does make a lot of money and this might be financially motivated but if they get back a (or two) 15-20 prospects from the Dodgers it is good in that they are doing what they can to bring talent into the organization that might contribute going forward.
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we are not getting Wade Miley in this deal.
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The thing to me is that if you look hard enough at any prospect you will be able to find something to be worried about: not enough maturity, home run power might not develop, maybe can't stick at position, strikes out too much, walks too little....there are any number of issues. What Amaro needs to do is lay out what guys he is comfortable getting back in a trade and then you let the chips fall where they may. I hate to see Rollins and/or Hamels traded but if one or a package of the two brings back Seager and/or Pederson + then you go for it.
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