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Just ignore her. It's just a case of massive inferiority complex from living an insignificant and lonely life. If she is a man, then we can call it "Small D!@# Syndrome."
Toggle Commented Mar 19, 2009 on NIT blog: UM 78, Providence 66 (F) at Eye on the U
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Good! We have a good group of RB's who want to be here. An added benefit is Kiffin, his dad, and this one man circus will make life tough for Meyer. All of you Gators got what you wish for: Brown not ending up at The U. Irony.
Who are the top targets next year by position?
Toggle Commented Mar 3, 2009 on Dunbar just the start at Booker T? at Eye on the U
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Is Barrow taking a demotion? Could have moving from being a player to HS position coach to college position coach so quickly without a coaching mentor slowed his development? LB's on the team have talent, but did not demonstrate that on the field last year. They missed a lot of assignments and did not have the fundamentals locked down. Was that coaching's fault? He is a very good recruiter, though. Let's hope our coordinators develop players and coaches, too.
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Let's move on. Anyone know if spring is open to public or press?
Toggle Commented Feb 19, 2009 on Brian Butler makes radio appearance at Eye on the U
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Seriously, does anyone here know of any college or professional player of any major sport who has been as closely associated with a former felon as BB with Butler and ended up with a good outcome? I am really curious. We would think that the Brown family is smarter than this. BB should just sign with Rosenhaus. At least he would only look selfish, not foolish. Eventhough I am concern of team chemistry if he ends up at The U, they should go through with the offer. First, Arthur is a Cane and he has been a team player, and he deserves respect and support. The U don't turn on their own. They have always stick together. Look at all the former players. That's what make The U special. Second, The U should take the high ground. They made an offer and their words meant something. They are not afraid of any player. They keep moving whether the player come, play, or ride the bench. Anything less, they will look bitter, insecure, and small. It will be important in the eyes of HS coaches and future prospects. Two years ago, Mack Brown made an offer to a HS player before the player found a medical condition that ended his playing days. Mack went through with the scholarship. The kid became a student-assistance. Mack now owns that part of Texas. The U is a place for men, and Randy, despite of all his mistake, so far has been a stand up guy.
Toggle Commented Feb 19, 2009 on Brian Butler makes radio appearance at Eye on the U
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Good points Nemo. But I hope Butler stays away. Good point CC.
Toggle Commented Feb 7, 2009 on Signing Day Wrap-Up at Eye on the U
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Opinion: BB may be really good. Opinion: BB may be a great teammate and leader. Opinion: BB may win the Heisman while carrying The U to a NC. Facts: Only BB has an "adviser" who has probably already spoken to more newspaper than Marve/Weiner did all year. If there is problems, the headline will read "the #1 recruit vs The U". Ready for Marve version 2? Do you think a second disgruntled hot recruit may influence future recruits? Maybe not?
Toggle Commented Feb 7, 2009 on Up next: Defensive coordinator at Eye on the U
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From all accounts, the Browns are good people and this is a very important decision for BB. We all worship in our own ways so we should be respectful. In addition, millions of dollars are at stake for them. However, Butler is a problem. He will not let go easily. He is going to want his cuts and side deals (scholarship to less talented clients). The U can lose its reputation with future quality recruits and attract more slimes. At worse the NCAA come knocking. If Brown comes here, will his adviser become an issue? Will he be Weiner/Marve or Uncle Luke? Will he start blabbing or contact other schools if Bryce is not happy? It comes down to cost vs benefits. Someone here said BB has just signed with Drew Rosenhaus. That's a good one.
Toggle Commented Feb 7, 2009 on Up next: Defensive coordinator at Eye on the U
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Alright, for some experts: We have not finished in the top 25 in 3 years+ and we consistently recruited a top 15 (#1 last year). We beat out big state schools with deeper pockets for Mr Football twice (would've been better if it was just once). We consistently flipped a player on the last day (to the delight of Urban's cell phone company). We are 7th-11th on different rank lists without BB. So suddenly Shannon can not recruit or close? It is a well known and accepted fact that most recruits want to stay near home. This point has been put to rest. ESPN even had an article with map recently. They want to play in front of friends and family. They to go home on weekends. Their parents want them close. Blood runs thick. If you look at their verbals 6m ago, it's very close to the actual signings. The ones we lost (Richardson, Washington, Tiller, ...) were last minute hail-mary's. It was a surprise that they even agreed to look at us with 4 weeks to go. They all went with their initial 1st choice near home. For those of us who panic over ranking list, who are these national "experts" putting together this list anyway? Have they watched more tapes, live games, practices then the coaches? Have they spend more time talking to the HS coaches, family, players? Do they know what schemes, needs, roles the team need? Have they consider academics, character, and personality in relation to the team? I don't remember too many top 5 classes coming out of HS with our previous 6 Nat Champ (OSU stole one). Give the pros some room to work. We should pay attention to the DC from TCU. Being in the Dallas area, I have follow his work. TCU is a Mountain West Conf team sitting in the heart of Texas/OU/OSU/Nebraska/TexasTech/Kansas country so not a first choice for recruits. Yet a number of conference titles and top 25 in 05, 06 and 08 (#7). They also beat OU the last 2 out of 3 times at OU. He is also older and less likely to bolt. IMHO
Toggle Commented Feb 7, 2009 on Up next: Defensive coordinator at Eye on the U
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That guy Buttler was also a rapper.
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By the way, whatever the result tomorrow, all the bitter people with insignificant lives will be putting us down. Ignore them. If there is this annoying chihuahua that keep yelping, would you waste your time barking. It's just their massive insecurity talking big hiding behind anonymity. In psychiatry, I thing they call it small di@% syndrome.
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While it's important, but it's not disastrous like how some of you feel about the ones that got away. Talent is only part of the equation. First, it's also about the coaching and development of players. Who (outside of The U coaching circle) had predicted the success of Irvin, Sapps, Kelly, Jerome Brown, Stubbs, Lewis, Barrow, Moss (Winston and the brothers), Reed, Meriweather, Gore, Highsmith, Dorsey, McGahee, James, Portis... when they came out of highschool? Many were not even playing the position they were playing in college. Shannon knows talent (track record since 99) and how to develop them as DC. However as HC, he had to entrust this on his assist. and some were not good enough and/or share the same philosophy. Even though inexperienced, he has shown that he won't hesitate cutting hindrances, players or coaches. Succeed or step aside. That's his job as CEO. On the other hand, it also take time to find loyal, talented employees with a limited budget. Those of us in management understand that this is paramount for long term success. Second, any successful team must have a clearly defined philosophy. Last year, we can see that developing in Def (scheme, attack, blitz), but in the future probably go back to The U's way of depending on player talent and discipline. However, Off was schizophrenic. They should have had a line in Ceasar Palace on predicting what scheme for what game. Who were we? Looking back, we can now sense the tension between Shannon and Nix. Sure, all blame stop at the boss, but Nix must have the plays and players ready for every situation. Of course the CEO get blame for his products not making sale deadlines if his R+D can not get them out on time. Sure he looked like an idiot, but he did his job and we have a new R+D guy putting out pro-style O. This will also help the human resource guy recruiting talents that can see how this can help get them to the NFL. Also, that's the reason why most teams/companies has one or two speakers and a few "reliable anonymous sources". Less noises for the consumers and critics to go nuts on. Third, who are these recruiting experts anyway? How can few guys know enough about all the talent out there to know what's good for The U. Who's better to say a 6'0" 208 4.50 40's in scheme A is better than a 6'2" 215 4.6 in scheme B is better for The U than the coaches at The U (who has seen signif tapes, practices, live plays, and face time of these two and then take them into account with the philosophy, academics, depth/needs of the team)? Look at how much the Fins improve with a cohesive philosophy and coaching staff. Short of us being in the war room, our best sources usually are the informative, mildly favorably biased beat writers. Props to Manny! Fourth, the number one reason a player picked a school is proximity to home. Well known facts. 200 miles if I can remember right. Look at what most of them said. They want to have their family at the games, they want to go home for the weekend and holiday, friends can visit them ...They are 17 and 18 years old. Every mile we go past Orlando our chances go down significantly, and that's without competitors spreading lies. For a small private school, why have we been so successful? Hungry local talents. You can not convince every parent to let their boy go away. Last, be careful of what we want. Let's hope that Brown will not turn out to be Marve v.2. I completely agree that he needs to do what's best for him. Millions of dollars are at stake. But the entourage may make Eugene Marve look like a mute. If he comes here, what if he doesn't earn the starting spot? What if he was not in for the 3 and goal at the 4, down by 4, with 1:31 left, and on national TV? What if he can not handle Jacory being the man? What if "Bryce is not happy"? Forget about tearing up team chemistry, we will have chaos. Even Jessica Simpson may pop up. All the national articles on this "advisor" are concerning. Read the New York Time article on their front page today. Yes, even the NYT. Sorry for the long winded blabber, but Manny don't block me because I kept it clean.
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Anyone hear anything about the Def Coord search?
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Everybody need to catch their breath for a moment. We want The U to have a perfect scenario with coaching, recruits, and wins, but there no point in hyperventilating until the dotted lines are signed. We have been screwed before, so be prepare for let down and have plan B. Besides, the process will probably start again in 1-2 years. We have always been a stepping stone for hot shots to make their names and get to the big paydays. We have the players to showcase their system. Look at USC and their revolving coordinators. So as important as calling plays and developing players, the OC, DC, and HC need to develop coaches. So we can promote from within. Good for consistency of philosophy, recruiting players and coaches, and wins. However, even though recruiting is paramount, we can't let one or two recruits dictate what we do. Bryce Brown should look out for his own interests. He should be asking questions. However, if he does come here, will he and his entourage become a headache? What if he is not ready and does not start? What if he is not in for the crucial drives, the winning touchdowns? What if "Bryce is not happy"? Are they, the BB HomeTeam, going to start monitoring the number of carries, the plays featuring him, where he sit, how big is his room? Can he handle Harris being the man? IMO he is getting close to the cost-value tipping point. I have been a fan since my freshman year in 84, but those are nagging questions that has persisted since then. IMHO.
Toggle Commented Jan 26, 2009 on Whipple announcement expected soon at Eye on the U
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Cowbells! I need more cowbells! Damn! Can't leave the laptop alone for few hours. Good work Manny.
Toggle Commented Jan 23, 2009 on Another surprise visitor in store? at Eye on the U
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The Herald needs to give Manny a big raise! I agree with some here that Shannon need to pick an OC and DC that are best for The U in the long run and not rush the decision. RS was hired late and need to complete his staff before signing day and made some rushed choices. Nix (after a few rejections) brought Marve and look how that turned out. It's important to have C's for recruiting, but it's bad precedence to let one or two players dictate the school decisions. If they can stir it up this much before they get here, just think how big theirs or their parents' heads will get when they do get here. We don't need another Marve or Fortay family. Authority is top down. Shannon has to be secretive with these searches. He has gotten burned in the past with all the second guessing about the choices and whinnying about the ones that turned him down. It's would be interesting to see him phone records and travel itinerary since the end of the season. He probably made the offer already. Like I-Must-Be-Nuts wrote, they have to make their decisions, too. IMHO, if the results on the field being equal, I prefer Long over McNulty and Langsdorf. If McNulty turned us down before because of lack of offensive talents, then he might be soft, greedy, and/or lazy. Langsdorf is a great catch (donated a kidney to his friend's wife? beat USC with lesser talents 2 out of 3? Tebow got nothing on this guy), but that's the problem. If he does what he is supposed to do for us, then he will get a HC somewhere in 2 years. Long was Langsdorf as an OC before the disaster in SDSU. He will do a good job and probably not too quick to move on. Did I mention Manny deserve a big raise?
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People, when you walk down the street and some chihuahua yelps at you, do you stop to bark back? Just ignore them. They are just b#tches.
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Name- firerandyshannon.com Position- Moron Ranking- 5 Stars Breaking news! Urban Meyer will not release Griggsy to sign with The U.
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Now that's maturity and leadership. The kid got brain. Like speed, you can't teach that stuff. Shannon just need to keep bringing in real UM talents, not the kind that some experts rated. Coker got highly rated classes that never fitted in at The U (W. Williams). Ray Lewis and K Dorsey were not 5-stars, while Berlin, Wright, and Williams were #1 players in their years. Let's not worry about where this coming class rank, but let's see if they have the what it take to wear The U. JH hit the nail on the head. Players come here to become NFL players. They don't want the Heisman with gimmicks and live off of that trophy rest of their lives. If they set their standards as the NFL, then the recruits, hungry young assists, NC's, and big paydays will come. The kid's temperament and attitude reminds me of Montana. I wonder who his role model is? Let's see how he will develop.
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I love the scent of fear and panic here. Butch Davis probably would not survive past '97 if we had the internet. Jimmy would have been dumped after Olivadotti (DefC after canned by Shula) sabotaged his first season. First, we (those who actually attended the school, went to the game, and contributed financially) are a small private school. We have a limited budget that comes from tuition, grants, donations, and whatever tickets, TV rights, and merchandises we sell. The football program does make money, but federal law requires it to be share with All other sports. We don't have the money that UF, UT, ND, USC, or OSU have. We don't have an alumni base that would pay $50-100 per brick from the old stadium at Texas. We don't have someone like Dave Thomas (of Wendy' who gave millions to UF). We definitely don't have a T. Boone Pickens giving us $170+ millions like he did to OSU. Yet, our coaching salaries somehow have remained very competitive. Bill Young salaries here was reported to be 2nd in the ACC. His rumored package is ~700 at OSU while the highest paid coord in the country is ~500. So give the bean counters a break (send your checks, too). Donna Shalala first responsibility is to the school and the education of its students, including its athlete. The vast majority of the football players, even team captains, do not make it to the pro. They need the education so they can go on with life after we are done with them. Most of these kids, and they are kids, can not afford to go to college and move out of their lower social economic class. Their parents and Shannon know that, and The U have up held their end with the top ten student-athlete graduation rate. I know a defensive player in the 2001 NC game who is now selling TV's in Dallas while going to Law School at night. Shalala is doing her job. Remember, the school can go on without football and their world renowned Business, Music, Law, and Medicine program would not miss a beat. Second, assistant coaches don't stay too long. The coaching life is a revolving door. Everyone is going somewhere. The young hotshots want to be HC's and the old ones want to find places to retire. Look on ESPN and SI today and see how many coord changed job at big programs. Everybody are just looking out for themselves because they know that their bosses and fans have no loyalty to them either. How many places Young has been in the last 10 years? And now he gets more money to coach at his school near home? Who wouldn't do the same? And how is this Shannon fault? Third,(take a deep breath) The U is not the coaching destination. They come here to build their names for the big payday at some State U with big alumni money or at the big show in the NFL. Let's see, deciding between going to S Fl with its fair weather fan or go golfing with some rich boosters at State U for 10G an event? Remember Schnellenberger, JJ, Erikson, Davis? So forget about Chud, Chow, and Tuberville because we can not afford them, this is step backward professionally for them, they have turned us down before, and even if they come, they will still takeoff after a few years anyway. So we will do what we have always done. We don't panic, we don't feel sorry for ourselves, and we DON'T turn on our own. We take the no-name up-and-coming minds that want to join the family and be patient and supportive. Remember all the coaches that turned us down before we got JJ, Erikson, and Butch? Lastly, we are very lucky because what we do have are great local talents that want to stay near home and a great recruiter. In college, it's all about talents. Mack Brown can't coach, but he can recruit; while Spurrier can coach, but he can't recruit. They both have one NC, but who is in a better situation? So if Shannon keep bringing in great talents for some smart and ambitious coaches to make a name for themselves, then we have a chance against the big money. He was hired late and missed out on good assistants in his first year. He fired two coaches for performance and another took a dream job, and all of the sudden these Dr Phil's are analyzing his personality. Give him the same chance as we gave Butch and make our judgments then. Otherwise, be a fanboy and get on the Univ of Tebow lovewagon.
Toggle Commented Jan 21, 2009 on Bill Young bolts for Oklahoma State at Eye on the U
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I love the scent of fear and panic here. Butch Davis probably would not survive past '97 if we had the internet. Jimmy would have been dumped after Olivadotti (DefC after canned by Shula) sabotaged his first season. First, we (those who actually attended the school, went to the game, and contributed financially) are a small private school. We have a limited budget that comes from tuition, grants, donations, and whatever tickets, TV rights, and merchandises we sell. The football program does make money, but federal law requires it to be share with All other sports. We don't have the money that UF, UT, ND, USC, or OSU have. We don't have an alumni base that would pay $50-100 per brick from the old stadium at Texas. We don't have someone like Dave Thomas (of Wendy' who gave millions to UF). We definitely don't have a T. Boone Pickens giving us $170+ millions like he did to OSU. Yet, our coaching salaries somehow have remained very competitive. Bill Young salaries here was reported to be 2nd in the ACC. His rumored package is ~700 at OSU while the highest paid coord in the country is ~500. So give the bean counters a break (send your checks, too). Donna Shalala first responsibility is to the school and the education of its students, including its athlete. The vast majority of the football players, even team captains, do not make it to the pro. They need the education so they can go on with life after we are done with them. Most of these kids, and they are kids, can not afford to go to college and move out of their lower social economic class. Their parents and Shannon know that, and The U have up held their end with the top ten student-athlete graduation rate. I know a defensive player in the 2001 NC game who is now selling TV's in Dallas while going to Law School at night. Shalala is doing her job. Remember, the school can go on without football and their world renowned Business, Music, Law, and Medicine program would not miss a beat. Second, assistant coaches don't stay too long. The coaching life is a revolving door. Everyone is going somewhere. The young hotshots want to be HC's and the old ones want to find places to retire. Look on ESPN and SI today and see how many coord changed job at big programs. Everybody are just looking out for themselves because they know that their bosses and fans have no loyalty to them either. How many places Young has been in the last 10 years? And now he gets more money to coach at his school near home? Who wouldn't do the same? And how is this Shannon fault? Third,(take a deep breath) The U is not the coaching destination. They come here to build their names for the big payday at some State U with big alumni money or at the big show in the NFL. Let's see, deciding between going to S Fl with its fair weather fan or go golfing with some rich boosters at State U for 10G an event? Remember Schnellenberger, JJ, Erikson, Davis? So forget about Chud, Chow, and Tuberville because we can not afford them, this is step backward professionally for them, they have turned us down before, and even if they come, they will still takeoff after a few years anyway. So we will do what we have always done. We don't panic, we don't feel sorry for ourselves, and we DON'T turn on our own. We take the no-name up-and-coming minds that want to join the family and be patient and supportive. Remember all the coaches that turned us down before we got JJ, Erikson, and Butch? Lastly, we are very lucky because what we do have are great local talents that want to stay near home and a great recruiter. In college, it's all about talents. Mack Brown can't coach, but he can recruit; while Spurrier can coach, but he can't recruit. They both have one NC, but who is in a better situation? So if Shannon keep bringing in great talents for some smart and ambitious coaches to make a name for themselves, then we have a chance against the big money. He was hired late and missed out on good assistants in his first year. He fired two coaches for performance and another took a dream job, and all of the sudden these Dr Phil's are analyzing his personality. Give him the same chance as we gave Butch and make our judgments then. Otherwise, be a fanboy and get on the Univ of Tebow lovewagon.
Toggle Commented Jan 21, 2009 on Bill Young bolts for Oklahoma State at Eye on the U
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Now we shall see who are the TRUE Canes here!
Toggle Commented Jan 20, 2009 on Bill Young bolts for Oklahoma State at Eye on the U
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A few (long) comments: 1. It took Jimmy 2-3 years took build that fence around S Fl. before getting back to the National Championship. It took Butch 4-5 years if anyone can remember the dark days of 97-99. Point #1, it takes time to accumulate and develop talented 17, 18 yo kids(!) that fit the team. No matter how well we did in high schools or colleges, how many of us were immediately ready after graduating? But so far he has recognized talent. 2. Remember Tom Olivadotti. He was with the Dolphins before becoming the Def Coord for The U before JJ came to town. JJ was forced to keep him even though, if I remember correctly, olivadotti also was a candidate for the HC. The following year we lost 2-3 big come-from-behind games. And I mean national headline big (no internet and couldn't get cable). Doug Flutie should be sending him a gift every birthday and Christmas, and double whenever someone showed that clip. You could even feel the tension over the radio. I know, radio?, but that's how you get away games. He was gone after the year and the rest is history. Point #2, like everything in life (business, government, family) success depends on team work and a common ever present philosophy. Shannon needs to have his guys. Look at how Big Bill led us out of the wilderness. 3. Joe Paterno won 2 NC (last was 86) and Bobby Bowden won 2. They combined for more Bowl appearances than most of us here have years to our lives. Yet they probably have been ripped more on the internet than Hugo Chavez, who some of you probably think would do a good job with The U. That's why dynasty and longevity are rare now. Good winning coaches are leaving programs at their prime because of non-football factors, and the rebuilding would restart again (wondering why?). Texas, OU, OSU, and USC get it and neither OU or OSU have won since we did in 2001 (2002 was stolen by the Big Ten referee). Point #3, consistency is vital so have a leader, back him up, and weather the storms. I mean don't you hate it when you are driving and one of the kid keep asking why we are not there, another constantly wish to be in the car (stadium, talents...) in the next lane, the deaf aunt relentlessly babble about how her best friend's nephew (coach) is a better driver, and the Chairman (the spouse) keep telling you to take a different lane, street, direction...And we wonder why some coaches leave. 4. We have 1/3-1/4 the enrollment of most state school, including USF! They get tax much more payer money. T Boone Pickens gave 160-180 MILLIONS to Oklahoma State U to build athletic facilities. Texas supporters bought the bricks from their old stadium at 50-100 dollar each. Dave Thomas (Wendy's) gave a chunk to UF. Point #4, know our budget and be smart in our fight with competitors. Scholarship limitation only help partially with leveling the field against the rich players. The dirty secrete is they have a lot more money and facilities, support staff, and coaches salaries are their aces. So forget about the superstars we can't afford who probably leave in 1-2 years for a HC spot and expect a rising diamond in the rough having talented players (keep building that fence) to make a name or a respected guru in his twilight who like the nice weather to train assistants and players. Remember, Schiano did not come here because he was house shopping in Happy Valley (irony), Butch and JJ were not our 1st choices, and Tressel and Tubberville had all turned us down. 5. The U is still in Coral Gables right? An on campus stadium seating 35000-50000 would require 75-125 acres. Even in this market, we can't afford that location (T. Boone?). Even if we can, Coral Gables would never tolerate the noise, traffic, pollution, and devaluation. Point #5, see point #4. Stay positive, be supportive, and have a happy New Year.
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