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Sorry, I badly edited the last comment--what I left out is that I think a student at an expensive school but unranked school is unlikely to be price sensitive once total debt is greater than ~150K, as payments under the current IBR program would remain capped. So such schools can likely continue to increase tuition to offset the lower number of applicants, and I wouldn't expect to see them close.
Predictions about Closings of ABA-Accredited Law Schools Over the Next Decade
Alas, yesterday's poll got linked from a blog with a less academic audience, so I've decided to close it. In any case, here are the results, with over 300 votes: How many currently accredited ABA law schools (there are about 200) do you think will close over the next ten years? (Assume that ...
Taking the hypothetical as stated--that there is no change in the federal student loan program--I would not expect any law schools to close. A relatively expensive school (~40K annual tuition, ~20K living expenses) with a relatively low LSAT median (<150) can likely continue raising tuition to cover a shrinking applicant pool. Someone who is already borrowing the full cost of attendance at such a school would not likely be price sensitive to further tuition increases--as long as income-based repayment remains, the student's future loan payments will be no different whether they borrow $200K or 400K. (You can explore various scenarios on Georgetown's website at http://www.law.georgetown.edu/admissions-financial-aid/office-of-financial-aid/loader.cfm?csModule=security/getfile&pageid=61621 --it lets you select various tuition levels and expected salaries, and shows what loan payments would look like with and without IBR. It only shows the ten-year IBR program for public service, but it is not hard to extrapolate from there). I believe the current situation (combining unlimited federal lending with income-limited repayment) is unsustainable, but as long as it exists, I don't see schools closing.
Predictions about Closings of ABA-Accredited Law Schools Over the Next Decade
Alas, yesterday's poll got linked from a blog with a less academic audience, so I've decided to close it. In any case, here are the results, with over 300 votes: How many currently accredited ABA law schools (there are about 200) do you think will close over the next ten years? (Assume that ...
I've been following BZT's work in this area on Balkiniztion, and I am looking forward to reading the book. I think he is right to advocate for loan limits, but I don't think it is strictly a matter of choice: I think loan limits are coming one way or another, and law schools need to be prepared. For many schools, I think that loan limits will be a significant economic shock. I would recommend reading the presentation by UC-Hasting's CFO, available here: http://www.uchastings.edu/budget/docs/SPI8%20Presentation%204-20-2012.pdf
Among other interesting facts, it shows that of Hastings' $63 million in annual revenue, $43 million comes from student loans ($23 million from Stafford, $20 million from GradPlus). As I read it, only $3 million comes in from "cash money" tuition payments. ($46 million in tuition revenue, of which $43 million was paid in the form of student loans, presumably meaning that about $3 million was actually transferred directly from student to school). $13.1 million was reallocated as student aid, leaving the school with a net $33 million in tuition revenue. Only $8.5 million comes from the state (I love the term PINO, and think it fits quite well here).
But unlike Michael Livingston, I am less worried about a two-tier system--I believe that loan limits will go a long way toward making prospective students much more price conscious, and I think this will benefit those schools that have managed to keep tuition at a lower level. (I made the argument at greater length here: http://www.legalethicsforum.com/blog/2012/02/after-the-student-loan-arms-race-the-disruption-of-hierarchy.html )
Tamanaha's Proposals on Reforming Legal Education Financing and Regulation
Two interesting proposals here; adopting one or both would completely change the landscape of American legal education. In brief: To restore some economic rationality, the federal loan system needs to demand greater accountability from law schools: those with a high proportion of recent gradua...
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