Denver here, and ABSOLUTELY would be there if the Fins made the big game. Stupid Gross lady!

ESPN is reporting that ita a 6 yr deal. no money disclosed yet. Dolfan in Denver

Black Berry via TMobile

Mel, like all draft "experts," is all about hindsight. I look back '06, one Jason Allen. I seem to remember Mel praising that pick saying how he would step right into starting 'cause he knew Satan's system so well. That should be enough to realize Mel knows about as much as the average season ticket holder. Ryan over Long, no way! Football is a game that starts in the trenches, you don't pass up on an achor for your line for the next decade plus, especially one that protects your QB's blindside. Even the greatest QB can't throw, or even hand off for that matter with defensive players constantly hanging from his back. Henne vs Ryan - I still take Henne. I look at it this way. How many better than average QB's can you name that came out of BC? Ryan MAY be one, but I can only think of one more and that's Flutie Flakes, and I have a really hard time even ranking him average, let alone above. Now on the other hand, you can't even count on one hand how many well above average QB's have been a product of the Big Blue. 'Nuff said, and I am not even a fan of Michigan. Now onto Ginn, seems every blog goes back to him one way or the other. I will be the first to admit he was a reach at 9, yet as all of you have heard from me before, I'd rather have him than Quinn. Many scouts had him pegged in the late teens of the frist round, so at least he was referred to as first round talent. Jalon, I like many others have to disagree that the Texans would have taken the family at #10, Okoye was their pick no matter what. And using phinhaven as your proof is not such a good idea. That is a forum site, which means your sources are nothing more than average joe fan, you should find more credible sources before sounding so confident. BTW Mando, I use a BlackBerry via TMobile. Dolfan in Denver

If those two are the only ones available, the pick is Ginn, no questions asked. I can't believe I am agreeing with a Pats fan, but his rushing numbers alone this year tell you Ginn is a playmaker on the upswing. 5 for 73 w/ 2 td's. Add that to his rec numbers and you have better numbers in the second year than Wayne, Smith, TJ, etc. Look back at this blog (the old version anyway) from March 2007. Everyone (at least 8 out of 10 anyway) was preaching that Quinn was the next Marino and praying he would fall to #9. I said don't drink the kool-aid. Quinn never won the big game at ND, and was too pampered to make it big in the NFL.

Luis, yes top 15! SOB was right, and it not just Keiper he was listening to. Everything I read prior to that draft had Ginn anywhere from 11-16, not just beacause of PR/KR, but because of sheer spped and explosiveness. I sat 9 rows up from the field at Univ of Pho Stadium for the Nat'l champ game that year, and you should have seen Ginn absolutely explode through the hole on the opening kickoff. I still belive UF would have had no answer for him all day and OSU would have destroyed UF had Ginn not gotten stepped on and hurt after that run back. Dolfan in Denver

tjh - Yes the moves did reflect special teams. They brought back Courtney Bryan - strictly for special teams. Dolfan in Denver

Okay, I caounted this three different ways. I any of those three are accurate, either myself or tjh had the 20,000th post. C'mon Mando, who is it gonna be????? Dolfan in Denver

And yes, Henne was the Mich QB in 05. He was a 4 year starter for them. And the only consistent thing Quinn did at ND was beat Navy. He could not even beat Purdue on a consistent basis, and could never win the big game. Dolfan in Denver

I don't believe cam and muller traded Welker simply because they knew they could get Ginn. Could they see into the future and know 100% that Ginn would be on the board? Hindsight, yes he was there but actuallity is completely different. And the Welker trade happened in early March, thats a month and a half (at least) before the draft, way too much time for things (injuries, etc) to happen. The ONLY reason Welker was traded was because the Rats offered a 2nd and 7th for him, which (at that time, not now) was WAAAAYYY over value for him. A single 3rd to 5th would have been comsisdered right on at that time. Dolfan in Denver

c'mon mando! are you gonna count those numbers? Dolfan in Denver

This should be 50 (or 51), if Mando counts the numbers earlier) Dolfan in Denver

As far as the Wildcat is concerned, we should be fine. Russel is playing but is very inexperienced, which sould mean a big day for Joey and the D. Fins 31 Riaders 6. Dolfan in Denver

You did miscount Dolfan in Denver

But that is only IF Mando is counting those idiotic numbers by Chase - no offense man, its a good try. If not, we are still pretty far away. Are you counting those Mando??? Tell us quickly! Dolfan in Denver

still a few more to go luis. Dolfan in Denver

Let him rot in Cleveland just like Brady "can't win a big game" Quinn (aka the best draft pike the 'Fins NEVER made, the ONE thing we can thank Camoron for!).

Dante O... That has to be one of the dumbest posts I have ever read. The only reason Daniels was here in the first plce is because we was a Sab(t)an guy who knew the defense because he went to LSU under Satan. Let me tell you, he was OVER RATED, just like his coach Satan. Good riddance to one of the last Satan carryovers!

Good call mando! That's freakin hilarious!

cheers NYScott!

the two chads played very, very well

I will vouch for NYScott, he is a Dolfan, just lives in the wrong state like me

Gregg actually got the save! Marlins Win! Now the 'Fins just need to close it out!

Dolphanforlife is an idiot