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oh yea i saw the funniest thing on jim rome the other day!!! chris johnson!! this dude actually think he can beat bolt in a foot race!! get real chris!! he said maybe not in the 100 but 50-60 yrds he would win. dont he know that when bolt usually win the race!! the first 50-60 yards!! after that he's just cruisin!!
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im out! looks like this is starting to go the wrong way!!!!!!!!!!! agree to disagree ppl
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sorry typo
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my last thought on white is this, no he no ronnie brown in terms of run thru the line of scrimmage but run to the outside and a few passes to running backs, te, and wr out of the wildcat would make it unstoppable!! that formation is nearly unstoppable with the right people in the right postions. i would replace ronnie with white, swap rickie and ronnie(fatigue),and bring a wr out where henne lines up at. truth be told rickie run plays produce the most yards out of the cat this year. having white as the triggerman still leaves the cat intact but also adds the element of a passing game. its not the player moreso the staffs lack of creativity
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dc finatic, i never said white would be a starter or a future qb star,but one year is notenough time to say if he will or not bust. for the things we like to do(wildcat), yes i can see pat white being the triggerman of the wildcat vs. ronnie brown because he can throw!! we have player with special skills and i dont think the staff uses them to their potential. and 5- passes in a year dont mean white cant throw not to mention he never complained(public) about the changes that he had to make(gloves and thowing motion). i say we need more than 1 year to judge this kid. we need to be mad at the picker not the pickee
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one last thought on ginn troubles. i remember reggie wayne not producing for like 3 years before peyton finally started to believe in him and now he's one of the best at the position. time and patience!!! we could give up to early, its not like he's 30, the kid is still young!! let him work with duper,micheal irving,or chris carter to better his skills
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well i just watch the colt and saints play on madden and the final score was colts 35 and saints 7! i predict colts 34 saints 20
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i would try and get something for greg camarillo!
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you can put ginn in the same boat as devin hester,but i think ginn is a better wr b/c he has played it more than hester. if i was coach ginn would run bubble screen,quick slants,deep outs and go route,kick returns and punt returns!! most wr dont take big hits and some of the best never have taken a big hit their whole career. on a lighter note i would hate to play madden next year and the fast player on the team will be vonte davis
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i love when we can agree to disagree!i hope henne does well too. he has all the tools to be great but sometimes just having the tools ain't enough
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damn micheal irving been accused of rape!!!!!!!
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enrique, you make valid points but there are plenty of cb that dont mind getting their nose dirty and aren't nearly as big as smith and most of the big run came on the weakside especially at the end of the year.
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do you think henne will be the next manning? one more note SEC or BIG 10? apples and oranges
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dc finatic, you are right about ginn not have the true wr skills as jackson but ginn is on par with jackson and harvin as far as yards per touch!! #1harvin 17.8,#2ginn 17.7 and #3jackson 17.6 min. 100 touches. like i said before either the OC needs to change his play calling or we need better wr coach. ginn has had like 6 returns called back in his career,the year with pennington he caught everything thrown at him,this year he had a great game vs colt, the over the shoulder catch in the back of the endzone was one of the best i've seen and the two kickoff returns. do your remember how many time you thought wes welker was going to score touchdowns on returns only to get ran down. we have no speed on this offense besides him, teams will always stack the box without speed or player with the threat of speed!! last i checked ginn was the on wr to beat revis straight up
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man,my god, why cant pat white get the benefit of the doubt in this room. all these ppl in love with henne are seeing fool gold!! dont get me wrong i like henne b/c he's a dolphin and thats the only reason, but not to long ago what had henne ever did in college to make you think he would succeed! the same way he played in college is the same way he plays now!! can we count on him to win big games for us(he NEVER beat ohio st.) case in point take the last 3 games of the season-win 1 and we are in(he couldnt do it)! white whole career has been about winning, give the kid a chance and a handful of passes dont mean he cant throw either. and no im not saying he's a future qb star but these kids today dont come from nfl style offenses so it takes time for them to adjust to the pro game
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my thing with wilson is this, wilson played on the softest side of the field(smith and porter). porter brought nothing to the table as far as coverage and run stopping abilities(barely produced rushing the passer), we all know smith wasn't the most physical of CB, which is a shame for his size!! if am a free safety i shouldn't have to worry about rb and te all game and to a certain degree making sure smith tackles his man. if wilson could roam like the other free safeties maybe he produces more. we are the only team with a free safety constantly cover te and rb, instead of assisting tackles and covering the deep portions of the field!! get better LBs and the secondary will fix itself. hell will allen could play safety when he returns,why waste a pick on a free safety when they are in-house! if thats not the case then we have bigger problem than we thought!! oh yea you put ginn with any elite wr and he will show the funk out
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i like boldin but all this talk about trade for boldin is crazy!! can we really depend on injury prone boldin!! will he be there at the end of the season for us?! there are plenty of wr in the draft just as tuff,fast,and have great hands not to mention younger. i would rather draft golden tate or the kid from georgia tech than waste draft picks on boldin. just saying
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all this get rid of ginn talk is foolish and if next season pat white starts going down instead of taking the big hits will he be considered soft too!! besides ginn who else has true speed?? we have 3 wes welkers on the team and as i stated before wes had like 70+ catches without a touchdown to end the season!! is that production?? if we can somehow get a true wr with size and speed to go along with what we already have then we should be fine. we are trying to hard to get rid of player without having players to replace them with. porter can go,akin can go, i say keep taylor and wilson. like mando said, a free safety should be the last line of defense, and if you played on porter's side of the field which wilson did, you'd probably get caught looking too. wilson might not be the answer but thats where the best man wins the job(clemons or culver). who knows if we get lucky and find a smith or davis!!! the weakest part of the defense was the LBs and no channing was not the problem!! not comparing channing to ray lewis, but ray lewis would look shitty playing next to porter and akin. i predict 2 LB's with the first 2 picks,then a nt,a wr big and physical,hopefully jimmy graham next and 1 more LB. the only way i see them grabbing o-line help is if we trade down and grab extra picks. defense will be the theme!! go dolphins
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