Mike, Is this the same picture?: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7659622 Not sure what to say, but I noticed that someone in the "Perfect Ambivalence" thread, thought it would be nice to see the original… I prefer the mono version… Don't like red apples. I am seriously thinking about a punt though. Best, Steve.

This debate was called by a CONservative back-bencher, and any referendum that miraculously resulted, would have been an unfair fight… There is no such thing as renegotiating powers back from Brussels for two reasons: The first and most important is that the aquis communautaire (which means in French "as is"), and that means that all the time we are members of the EU (NOT in a relationship), we have to accept its growing list competences. Secondly, David Cameron did not win the last election and instead he went into a partnership with the LibDims… "The CONDEMolition", and the LibDim partner will not allow (even if Cameron was so disposed, which he isn't) any repatriation of any powers. So this was a piece of theatre and that is all; we all played our part, I was one of the UKIPers outside, and maybe Robert Halfon thought (we won't know if he says nothing) that this proposal stank, and he didn't care how he voted, in the knowledge that there would NOT be a referendum, and even if there was, it would be a disaster. So the merry-go-round carries on, and I look forward to the next round… That is, if the whole shooting match doesn't collapse before that.