@sunflowers The west, including the US, is all messed up. This is not the first time that people of jewish heritage have supported the very savages who would happily annihilate their families if given a chance. This is true for both the American and the Isreali Jews. If you look through the archives here, you will see plenty of such examples from November and December alone. Even the state of Israel has behaved like this. I have a feeling that Jews are suffering from some psychological condition (something similar to stockholm syndrome) that makes them behave this way. Maybe people from jewish heritage can explain this better.

"i also want to fight against and tell to world how muslim behave with non-muslim" Those who know how to separate the wheat from chaff already know how Muslims treat non-Muslims. Unfortunately we are too few and unable to help. If the letter writer is a Hindu, my suggestion to him is to convert to Islam and remain a Muslim until he can move to India or some other safe place.

And prepping is a good idea anyway especially for the next 8-15 years. Islam may or may not take over the US, but inflation certainly will. And preppers will do well in such times, especially if the inflation is severe.

@Chris The question is- WHY do they refuse to listen? And the only way we can find out is if we look at things from their perspective. Once we know how they think and how our message appears to them, then we can tweak our message and present it in a way that actually appeals to them. As I said earlier, I am still studying them. One of the things that I have noticed is that all the groups that they side with present themselves as oppressed groups. For example, they side with palestinians because the palis successfully (though deceptively) present themselves as victims. The Israelis fail to present themselves in a similar fashion so they are automatically labelled 'aggressors'. Another example is environment- The environment is 'victim' and the SUV owner is aggressor. And many such examples. Now that we know such mentality of Obama-voters, we should be smart to present our claims in a similar manner. Our major advantage would be that we don't decieve. The sufferings of minorities in Muslim lands need to be presented in a language that appeals to Obama-voters. But we need to learn some more about them before we actually start marketing our message.

The MSM ignores Islamic violence and stealth Jihad. Instead they run pro-Muslim and pro-Islamic pieces and it pi**es us off. What we need to consider is that if we are to defeat the enemy, we have to KNOW the enemy. Ok.. rather than call them 'enemy', I'll call them 'opponent'. We have two opponents- Islam (and its followers), and its non-Muslims supporters (including MSM). The counter-jihadists know all about Islam and Muslims, and we also know how to deal with this cult. Except that we fail to do much, because the non-Muslim supporters of Islam keep us from tackling this threat. The counter-jihadists however, do NOT know much about non-Muslim supporters of Islam. We complain all the time about the MSM but we do not do anything to counter them. Let us begin with knowing this formidable opponent. In this post I will only mention a few things about MSM (which is only one part of the entire network of entities that supports Islam/Muslims)- The MSM are not saints doing charity to the populace. They all are for-profit enterprises. A business is run according to the following formula: Maximum revenue - Least expenses = Maximum profits. Their intention is to spend the least and reap the most. And like any other for-profit company, their foresight is only until the end of next quarter (or two). People running these businesses don't care about what might happen one year down the road, or two years down the road, or.... They only care to show most profits by the next quarterly meeting, where managers are fired for poor performance. Writing against Islam results in physical attacks against the business. It also results in attacks against journalists, bycotts, and bad press. All of these result in direct and indirect lawsuits. It means that the expenses drastically go up! What for-profit business do you think wants all these headaches? Writing in favor of Islam on the other hand, does not result in any undesired expenses and may result in grants from Islamic groups, thereby increasing profits. On top of that there is praise for making inter-faith improvement efforts. Therefore it is impossible for the MSM to write stuff against Islam. Besides the opponents, we also have to study our target audience (the ignorant populace), and I am still in the process of learning more about them. For example, I'm trying to figure out where our audience gets most of their news from? The Internet? Or are newspapers and TV still as popular as before? What goes on in their heads? How can we reach them? We need to discuss all these things.

I must also point out that the coming four years are NOT going to be sweet for Americans. There will be inflation, a result of years of zero interest policy, and Quantitative Easing by the Federal Reserve. Such policies result in excess cash in the financial system, and it takes a couple of years for this excess cash to start showing its effects on prices. That time is coming NOW, and it doesn't matter who is in the office. The poor and other lower income people will be hit the hardest. Gas will easily be at $6 per gallon by the end of next year, and it will be $10 by the end of following year. Everything dependent on oil will be more expensive, and what isn't dependent on oil nowadays. Americans prefer keeping their heads buried in sand in the face of Obama's policies (regarding everything). But they will not be able to keep doing so when inflation truly rears its ugly head. The Obama-lovers may still try to put the blame on Bush, but the public will demand that something be done NOW, except that no one will be able to do anything. Even if Obama declares himself a dictator, he will not escape the wrath of lower income Americans. If Romney had won the elections, people would be asking for his head. So in a way it is good that he did not win. If Republicans are smart, they should be able to take advantage of all that discontent and attract voters for 2016.

The election results of Nov 12 should be an eyeopener for conservatives and libertarians. There may have been some election fraud by the Obama camp but overall, that is not the main reason for Republican defeat. Every single one of my friends and acquaintances voted for zero. I was surprised that Romney got 59 million votes. We should use this defeat as an opportunity to learn, so as to do better in the next elections. Here is what I learnt- 1) Unlike what we prefer to believe, most Americans are either totally unaware of stealth Jihad that is going on against the US, or they don't think it is a serious enough issue. Every person that I have spoken to, thinks that radical Muslims are just like radical Christians. And they would rather vote against radical Christians (read Republican) since there are a lot more radical Christians in the US than radical Muslims. 2) Plenty of people refused to vote Republican because of their anti-abortion, and anti-gay stance. These people don't realize that Islam is a far more serious threat than a anti-gay party coming to power. 3) Women overwhelmingly voted for Obama. There is something about Obama that makes women attracted to him, something that only a women's psychologist can explain. On top of that, they think his policies better serve women. 4) Even though we want an anti-jihadist in the White House, Robert Spencer pointed out that Republicans too are as averse to opposing Islam as anyone else. Besides Allen West (and a handful others), there is barely anyone else among the Repubs who would stand up to Islam. 5) Youngsters- even though they are of the voting age, they still vote for who is 'cool' rather than anything else. And there are plenty of youngsters out there. Republicans need to figure out how to attract them. If the Republicans can take care of some of these issues, they will win for sure in 2016.

I looked up the South Side Chicago Anti-Racist website (link in pam's article) out of curiosity and wasn't much surprised to see its content which is not much different from the way Leftists think. However, there was one sentence in the article that caught my attention, and gave me a strong clue as to why the Left is so powerful (despite being dumb). Here is the complete paragraph - "The racists, by law, can say whatever they want… but they should not be surprised if the people who wish not to live in a racist world do something about it. Folks like those who shut down a gathering of white supremacists in Tinley Park, IL, earlier this year understand this, and should be praised for engaging with the racists directly and not appealing to the state to intervene in their affairs. Reliance on the state weakens the ability of autonomous social movements to bring about the changes necessary to overthrow the rotten systems of white supremacy, patriarchy, and capitalism that we live under." The statement that caught my attention is highlighted in bold. We all know that the Left pressures the state to meet its demands all the time. But what I realized is that 'pressuring the state to meet demands' and 'appealing to the state' are two very different things. The Left does NOT depend on the state. Those on the right however, expect/wish/request the state to do something about the issues that we believe are important to us. Some pray to God to fix our problems. Whereas the Leftists themselves take charge of bringing about the change that they wish to see, demand that the state works for them, and ultimately succeed in making the state work for them. "Reliance on the state weakens the ability of autonomous social movements to bring about the changes necessary to overthrow the rotten systems of.... " hammers that point further. Such mentality on their part IS the secrect to their power and success. They are free; They are independent. They are IN charge. That is the reason why the MSM, the state, and many other institutions listen to them. Now imagine what the anti-jihadists can do if they take matters into their own hands instead of hoping that some day people (and institutions) will listen to us.

Even Obama said that Israel has right to defend itself. He has been coming out quite firmly in support of Israel. But I strongly believe it is a fluke and not a solid change in how he views the jewish country. It could be his attempt to pacify all those 49 percent of Romney voters.

Great reply Ziontruth! Regarding going back to '67 borders, I suggest that food for thought watch this four and a half minute video, and tell me if there is anything said by the mullah (in the video) that is NOT backed by Islamic sources- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X8dhrzQCHY And then I would appreciate if food for thought can tell me if s/he still believes ANY muslims in the world will ever change their minds regarding Israel.

@MM.Miller.Stern I think you meant to reply to John. In this blog, the id of person who posted is *below* the comment. For example your id is *below* your comment.

@InfidelForLife Thanks. I should have said "Why is west bank quite?" But I got the answers in detail from people at jihadwatch.org

Guys, I need help from people with knowledge and information. I have been doing some debates online and point out that the real reason why Hamas attacks Israel is because they are required by Islam to do jihad against Jews. But lately some people are asking "ok.. why is West Bank silent then?" What is a reasonable answer/response to this question?

@Robrt4 Ok then I need to read up on Ayn Rand and his influence on Pamela, who herself happens to be of Jewish heritage. If you claim that Ayn Rand was a Jew-hater, then I hope to find out what she likes about him. Now I am not influenced by Ayn Rand at all, but I see big difference between the 'civilians' of Gaza/Lebanon and those of Israel. The Government that Israelis support, does NOT intentionally attack civilians. Nor does the Israeli military randomly launch weapons at Gaza. The Israeli military does not use human-shields. Hamas/ Hezbollah on the other hand do all of these things. You do NOT have to be influenced by Ayn Rand to know that Pamela Geller is right about what she is saying. You only have to look at things objectively.

@Robrt4 The only reason Pamela Geller used the Ayn Rand quote is because it fits the context of jihadists vs others. Other than that Pamela has nothing to do with Ayn. I know this because I have been reading her posts for years. Here is a quote from the story in that link- "Hezbollah's attack was far from a rogue action committed in defiance of the government: The Lebanese government has actively supported it, in both word and deed. In any normal country, a junior coalition member that attacked a neighboring country without its partners' consent would be swiftly disavowed and ousted from the government. Far from repudiating Hezbollah's attacks on Israel, the Lebanese government has actively defended, facilitated and assisted them at every turn. There are thus no grounds for treating it as an innocent party in this conflict." As the quote explains, the Lebenese Govt is NOT innocent. And here is pamela's quote from that link- "If by ignorance, complicity, neglect or helplessness the Lebanese wouldn't throw Hezbollah out and establish a strong government, then they must pay the price for the sins of Hizbollah. And if people put up with dictatorships, theocracies, totalitarian regimes - as they did in Nazi Germany -- they deserve what Hezbollah deserves. Our only concern should be who started the war." There is a big difference between what Hizbollah/Hamas do and what Israel does. Israeli soldiers do not delibrately attack civilians. They only attack those who attack Israelis (eg randomly launching rockets on Israel with no concern for who it hits). Any responsible country should be doing exactly what Israel does. Hamas on the other hand launches attacks from within civilian areas. They use civilians for human-shields.... and have been doing this for years. Despite this, the Palestinians (including their govt) support them and never criticize them for using such tactics. When the Palestinians use such tactics, wars become messy. You can't really call Pamela wrong for refusing to consider them 'innocent civilians'. What would YOU do if you end up in such situations (as Israel does all the time)? Would you let the enemy keep launching rockets at your homes and your kids' schools?

@Robrt4 I looked through the link that you posted. I couldn't figure out how your comment about 'innocent civilians' apply in the context of Israel today! Do you mind elaborating?

Arjay, your post as usual is very illuminating. Though gays should already be most aware of how much Islam hates them and how much the Left loves Islam. Yet I see gay voices only come from the Left. There are many posters here, at jihadwatch.org, and at many other conservative sites, who are deeply Christian and are quite vocal in their disapproval of gay lifestyle but despite that, gays need to join the conservatives for freedom from persecution rather than be with the Left. The Left supports Islam but Muslims, as they become more powerful, have always been far more intolerant of gays than any non-Muslim conservatives. However, no one will be looking to physically harm them here. I believe we need to reach out to the gay community, educate them about the threats that Islam pose to them, and invite them to join Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller rather than the traitorous Left.

Thanks for the answer RalphB. It greatly helps.

Pamela, I think you are unnecessarily being concerned about this instructor giving out this assignment to her students. The class is on 'transnational terrorism', and anyone wanting to be an expert on the subject should know how terrorists plan things. But I do agree with your point about these universities never letting freedom defenders speak to students. It means that even though these terrorism experts will know how terrorists plan things, they would not know where to look for them, and can easily be fooled by political Islamists like CAIR into getting stuck in wild goose chases.

Pamela, Sorry to hear what Brand made you go through but I want you to know that I am with you! I had never heard of Russell Brand before but if I ever come across him, I will work to expose him for the POS that he is!

I have a dumb question but there is thing related to the First Amendment that puzzles me. I will really appreciate if someone fairly knowledged in US law can solve it for me- If the First Amendment protects all political rights, then how can political ideologies like Communism and Nazism be suppressed in the US? Thanks in advance.

@Hindu Woman Such lugubrious comments coming from a Hindu woman on the day of Vijayadashami is proof indeed of how screwed up Hindus have become. You need help! Please contact me at facebook and we will turn your outlook towards life by 180 degrees :) The reason why white-majority countries are better off is because each and every individual there used to take personal responsibility towards improving things in their homelands. Some like the great Pamela Geller still do. If India and Hindus are screwed up then it is YOUR personal responsibility to fix things with them. You can start by having the attitude that these are your responsibilities. The fact that they are screwed up isn't necessarily a bad thing. All it means is that there is work to do. If they were not screwed up, you would be bored having nothing to do. When India was being screwed by the British, Indians worked towards the goal of independence and spirits were high. If dogs call you 'Turd World Country' then let them bark. The elephant isn't bothered because of barking dogs. Learn to be the elephant. And btw, Hindu woman is NOT < Muslim robots. Hindu women are devis and Muslims are slaves (They call themselves 'slaves' of Allah), and they are correct about thier being nothing more than expendible slaves. You should read some of your holy books to know what 'devi' means and how high of a status that is in the manifest world (as explained by Hinduism). When you study/learn all these things, you TOO will become a fearless warrior like Pamela Geller, and you will see good things begin to happen around you.

Keep dreaming Moose. And be ready to see more ads exposing the true face of Islam and its followers.

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Pamela says: "Obama would have done well to keep Mubarak in power and force the kind of reform the liberals and secularists were hungry for. But Obama had been instrumental in the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. Freedom was never an Obama foreign policy objective." I don't think the liberals and secularists of Egypt had a good enough idea about who their allies were in the revolution. The very fact that they joined hands with MB in this revolution, and that Wael Ghonim tried to join MB on the stage in their victory celebrations, speaks volumes about how ignorant they are of Islamists. After he was banned from the stage, Wael claimed to be 'disappointed' but that's about it. Other liberals and secularists too didn't make a big deal about it. Egyptian liberals like Wael Ghonim are yet to wake up. If they hadn't screwed up during the 'Arab spring', they would have screwed up some other time, since they don't know the enemy. They are yet to go through what liberal Iranians have gone through for three decades. Only then will they realize who their enemy truly is.