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Interesting blog. As a rational Christian, I agree with most if not all your points. But that's not to say I don't see problems. For instance, of course it is stupid asshole talk to say "there are no atheists in foxholes", as if that would be an argument. But compare it to what I heard so often from atheists, for instance the "we are all born atheist" pseudo-argument. That too is demeaning, it is also claiming a priority for atheism over everything else. But it is a very flawed point of view. We are no more born atheist then we are born theist or born educated. We are born un-educated. From that point of view, the aforementioned argument may shed a strange light on the atheist's own argument. If you know what I mean. The whole point here often boils down to the question whether we want to take a position of not knowing everything, and listening to other opinions if they make sense. Atheism makes sense in a different way than theism. Atheism tends to simplify the big questions of life, theism tends to make life more complex It isn't always easy to tell where theism stops to bring about the complexity of life, and where it (the theologians, the believers) start to add their own complexities to it. For atheism too, it isn't always clear where they make a good straightforward point and where they start to 'ridicule' rather than really making things simpler in a justified kind of way. About anger: some anger may be good (think catharsis) but anger is usually or very often perceived as negative and destructive - certainly if there's no balancing of the whole set of views. Add to it that a-theism already sounds to most people like taking an idea called theism and put an 'a' in front of it, thinking it's now a better idea - and you may understand why the anger of atheists may not always be convincing. So even while I agree with almost every point in the blog, I also have my doubts about where this will ultimately lead you. We Christians have our reasons to be angry, too. Rational Christians are often angry about the hijacking of our faith in a God (as being a reasonable conjecture on the issue of life and meaning) by religious fundamentalists. We are also angry at people like the 'new atheists' because they use the most simplistic biblical literalism-based ideas as a pretext to simply demean 'religion' in general. I have a great deal of respect for all my own atheist friends (I have lots of them on myspace for instance), but I have no stomach for giving guys like Dawkins or Harris one inch of room in the political arena. Because those guys are just betraying the sciences - that is how we see it. They are selling atheism under the cover of science, they are selling evolution theory as if that would require an atheist mind (and then they keep whining because 'creationism' does not stop existing). I wished there was no such mix of science and theism (=creationism, or ID), but I also strongly wish there are no atheists who keep fueling this stuff because they turn good science into an atheist kinda thing. Nevertheless, your blog was a nice read. I just do not recommend to depend on anger. I don't think any solutions ever came out of anger and conflict-based rhetoric. Kind regards, J.
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