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b333... Sanchez disappoints Rex. Ha! Ya think? How dumb is the media and the Jets organization to still after how many frikin years act like Sanchez is either a game away from losing his job (game after game after game after....). And yet they still cling to him like some drugged and beaten wife. Good lord. They drafted their franchise QB (they think). They tried to ditch Sanchez for anyone else the last 2 years, and still clung to him, and then paid him even more. Ugh. Tebow may have left, but the ignorant denial circus stayed. His circus was at least fun. The Jets. snort.
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Flip again? Oscar you know me better. If I miss, I own (I've missed and owned plenty before). If I predict correctly, I crow (just a little). I'm trying to allow room to say that IF the standard sets are different than last year, and the product is open space for backs .. then Gillislee and Miller are better prospects than the pounders that we needed last year. Bush would even work well in a open system. But he couldn't work well enough last year because the line running was so tight. That opens up, and Gillislee/Miller types are better suited. So, I'm just saying my opinion is for what I've already seen, but should the scheme change (like it SAYS it is), then my opinion should change. Not rocket science.
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Mark, Craig, and Bobby. The Bleacher Report article I read (might be the same) simply put out the argument that Odrick isn't going to get the DE reps he wants anymore, and that IF he can work as a DT then he's set. But IF NOT, then he's a man with a hazy future. I think we can agree that's probably true. As far as Egnew? They liked him so much they signed a big free agent to start, and drafted another guy to "compete". Egnew is already a man with a hazy future.
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I'll go on record again with this. The media and coaches keep "talking" about Gillislee, and he's only in shorts. So, they "love" Miller, and he's the heir supposedly, ...but they are "talking" about Gillislee. I predict Gillislee will have more snaps at the end of the season than Miller. He can just plain do more things. Miller may upgrade his skillset, and form, in which case he may be way better than I imagine him, but if not... Gillislee is better. And once again... I don't think either is a #1 feature back. However... I do have to reserve the right to change that opinion if this 4 receiver set is more of a standard this year than the up-the-gut running of last year. With a wider set, and more open space, Gillislee and Miller are better suited than pile-pushing backs. Hope so.
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YG, I don't particularly care of the guys name is Squeezey McWetfart, as long as he can ball, make first downs, and score a few TDs. But I doubt I'd want to buy a McWetfart jersey - just the same.
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btw, to add to my previous post... McNutt 6'3" (or 4" by some measurements), 216lbs, 4.5 40, and is the all-time receiving yards leader at Iowa. No mention by Dolphin media. Welcome the new 5th string QB though. Whatever his name is.
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I'm a little surprised that we have a multi-referenced notice about some back-up to a back-up tackle/fullback, and a 4th/5th string QB, but no mention of signing 2nd year WR Marvin McNutt. McNutt was on my list in last year's draft as a solid prospect for #2, or #3 receiver spot. Sounds like he's not gotten much field time, and teams gave up on him. Maybe for good reason. Maybe not. Plenty of players have suddenly shined in a new system after being ignored by former teams. Guess we'll see. But I'm surprised he's fallen through the cracks in the Dolphin media too.
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YG, as always, you'd argue with me about which direction the sun comes up. You have your opinions, I have mine. Gillislee was the remainder of the Urban Meyer sytem that had backs as space runners. He was tougher and heavier than the others, and that was why he didn't get more playing time behind Rainey and Demps. But he was as effective when given the shot. What none of the backs could do was run behind Weiss's pro-style blocking. You needed heavier, more bully style backs for that job. Alabama types. And Yes, the blocking did suck, which is why we had trouble winning tight games against solid D-lines. Gillislee will excell in a system where he can get some space, or swing passes. Supposedly that was Shermans' system, although I saw too much ground-n-pound style last year. And Bush wasn't built for it. Did his best, tried hard, but it's not his game. Miller excels in space too. Hopefully we'll have a lot more of that, the ol' WC offense style, and the backs will fit well. What neither will fit well into is the 1st and 2nd down up the gut runs. Or 3rd and 1 power dive. I'd like to think that's not our offense, but I saw a LOT of that last year. So I'm assuming that will be back to some extent. But, I suppose I'll see some statistic in your posts to tell me I'm full of it, so I'll be quiet, and let you guys pass around your reasons for making me out to be a moron. Have a nice Saturday, gents.
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DD, I like Gillislee better than Miller, because he isn't shy about charging into a hole. But he just doesn't have the chops when it comes to getting the tough yardage. That was always Florida's downfall was the tough yardage run game. They resorted to the QB for tough yards, even when Tebow was there. Their RB stable was full of quick guys who needed space. Yes, every back wants space, and most every NFL back looks great when they have a nice hole. But in the NFL, you don't get good holes a lot. Bush couldn't hack that either (I wasn't a fan of him as a feature back). The games you watched, I don't recall specifics, but LSU got game-panned by our blocking scheme, and didn't recover. Once Gillislee had a hole, he excelled. Other games, UF blocking was sorely lacking, and Gillislee had to be creative. He isn't creative. Miller IS creative. And he's a dangerous threat when he has the ball. What he isn't is hard nosed. The great traffic runners deliver blows. They lower shoulders, and will themselves the extra yard. Other guys brace for impact, clench and take the blow. Miller is a taker, not a deliverer. Bush tried to be tough, he just didn't have the size or strength to beat the solid tackles. Miller might be able to, but he has to change from the back I saw last year. Maybe he will. But I doubt it. It's inside you, not what coach teaches you.
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NostrodamJS (in LA) sez... 1. Most of the complainers about Jordan will end up buying his jersey in a year or two. Jordan will end up being the photo icon when they show match-ups on the TV: Brady vs. Jordan (eg). The rest of the complainers will just find different ways to complain. 2. Gillislee not only has a shot to beat out Miller for starting job, but will end up with more minutes near the end of the season. But neither Gillislee nor Miller is our answer, and we will be signing or drafting our starting RB next year. Miller doesn't have the iron-jaw to push thru traffic, and Gillislee is just not feature back material. I watched every down he ran at Florida, and though he tries very hard, he just can't create anything when it's jammed. With a hole, he's as good as anyone else though. He's a solid back-up, and versatile - just not a feature back. 3. The Jets and Bills are going to fall flat on their faces. Manual is talented but doesn't have any intangibles - my guess is it'll be several years before they know for sure if he's going to blossom or not. G.Smith is going to be a J.Russell bust. His career film says that once he got game-planned against, he couldn't beat it - even WITH T.Awesome, and S.Bailey. That and the supposed knocks against his work ethic, attitude, and I don't see a multi-million dollar star being very humble on Broadway. The Jets will bend every rule they have, and coax and cajole for at least 3 years before they finally realize their fate. So... that leaves a solid but not spectacular Miami team sniffing at the Patriots heels on their own. And even though i think Patriots are still better .. I don't think they got very much out of their draft class. So how soon? Not sure. Depends on Tannehill's progress.
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In other news..... JETS. ha ha! http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/new-york-jets-geno-smith-bad-attitude-during-team-visits-050213 I think this guy is going to tank harder than Jamarcus Russell. not because of this attitude issue, ...but it helps.
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he was our least likely candidate, so this doesn't bother me. It'll bother me less when SOMEONE is signed.
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Odin, Philbin hasn't seen Thomas do a push-up, much less run a play. Of course they'd HOPE he fits at LT (ahhh Ireland), but my guess is he's going to be they're swiss-army-knife when the injury big hits during the season. That is actually a good idea. But until we sign either a starting LT, or RT (and let Martin be LT), then I'd say Thomas is a sketchy fit. Just guessin', since I ain't seen him do a push up either.
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JETS. ha ha! http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/new-york-jets-geno-smith-bad-attitude-during-team-visits-050213 I think this guy is going to tank harder than Jamarcus Russell.
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The GOOD news: Although we didn't improve as much as we could have, we did improve, and significantly, in our division. The Bills will be figuring themselves out for several years, and will likely find Manual isn't a franchise guy. SCORE! The Jets will have another QB circus, even without Tebow, and that won't work itself out either for a couple years. Both Smith and Manual will fail as top notch starters, and we'll be sniffing at the Patriots heels. DOUBLE SCORE!
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I have been an outspoken Ireland critic, and yet I believe this is his best draft since he's been here. Understand, I do NOT agree with many of his choices, and omissions. SanFran picked up 2 tremendous players late, when all we did was fill back-up spots. But considering his last few wasted drafts (... check the roster for those players), this one is golden for him. He could've picked up potential stars at both WR and RB even in the late rounds, but went with role-fillers. Ah well. D. Jordan = Poential superstar. Also potential bust. But that's what a 1st round pick is about. This was a fair choice. Could've been others, sure, but I'm good with this. LT instead? Heyalll NO. We've drafted enough top round linemen; time to try a new course. J. Taylor = ? No clue. Rated high. We'll see. CB here wasn't a bad idea. D. Thomas = Likely a guard. 3rd round is as high as I'd ever pick a guard, so... I can live with this. W. Davis = OK, now we're slipping into Ireland's ole' acorn ethic. Were far better picks, and needs here. Thumbs down. J. Jenkins = Not a bad pick, has some roles that he'd excel at, but doubt he's a starter. There were high value starters still in the 4th at other key positions. In a void, this is fine, but with what was still left in the 4th to pick... on the fence. D. Sims = Blocking TE. Didn't we just get rid of one of those? Unimpressed. M. Gillislee = He'll be fine as 3rd down back, and change of pace. Could've had Lattimore, Taylor, Franklin, Barner, etc, though. Should I be impressed? C. Sturgis = Sure why not. D. Jones = Whatevs.
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Kris, I've never been in Ireland's corner. yesterday he pleasantly surprised me. Hopefully he'll do it some more. I'd prefer to have faith in him, than hate him. Gotta get back to focusing on work. Crazy busy, and have been for a while. It's been a pleasure chatting. Man, I'd love it if its this way all the time. Take care, sir.
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kris, There's talk from some "experts" that Jordan lack of overall production at Oregon had something to do with the scheme he was used in. perhaps. the good news he can actually cover passes, and drop into coverage, chase down RBs, and slot guys. All things they had JTaylor doing once in a while. He moves crazy smooth for a big man, and does have all the skills you'd want in a DE, and even an OLB to a degree. Question is what happens when he meets a coach who wants to turn him into a fulltime DE (what I assume they are doing), and has new information to give him? Soon find out. It wasn't the overall safest pick (I hate safe picks), but he's as solid as anyone there is in the first round. Only flaw? His weight. I'm pretty sure he can find some sandwiches, and spend some time in the Fins weight room for that.
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JS... Thanks for the link....did 6 miles on the tread mill this morning...and Sports Science was on ESPN 2...the THEME was this years draft class.....and it seemed they showed everybody during my run EXCEPT Jordan.... so again...thanks.... Posted by: Kris | April 26, 2013 at 04:22 PM Most welcome. I'm tired of the verbal melee in here, so I've tried to stay away. But once in a while I'll pop in when i can't stand not to open my big fat mouth. :) For the record I like the Jordan pick. I wish it didn't cost picks, and I would've been ecstatic with JJones, but Jordan is a serious chance at being a superstar. Superbust, or superstar possibilities. Ballsy, and I didn't give Ireland credit to try it. So so far.. I'm on board. We could've gone LT. But LT won't beat Brady. Jordan and Wake combo has a shot. And to get anywhere in our division, gotta beat Brady. There are LT options as Mando said (or maybe RT as I've said, and make Martin LT), so I think we'll start camp with a fully sufficient line.
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Mando dropped this link in a tweet. Interesting Sports Science take on Dion Jordan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkyGYvKz30g
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Perhaps we're looking more for a RT at this point? Martin was the obvious default replacement without better option. Is 9+ mill, and our 2nd rounder a better option than Martin? Prob not. So how much is a starting RT in the market? Ireland has had eternity to make these moves and hasn't. He doesn't feel too pushed, and apparently likes his situation better than we think. So why is it different now? It's not. I say he gets his bargain - maybe at RT - or shrugs his shoulders, lets Martin be LT, starts his stopgap roster guy at RT (there's 2 I think) and waits til better options come along. The media is the only one who has been salavating at the FA/trade/draft LT scenarios. Ireland hasn't blinked. Don't think he will now either. If he can get Albert for next years 2nd rounder, or a 3rd this year - he'll agree. Otherwise ... RT to best roster guy.
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Why isn't linebacker an option? Did I miss something? Did Koa Misi suddenly get better this off-season, and learn how to cover a pass? Otherwise agree w/ Mando. And YES I'd scream too if they spent yet another top round choice on yet another O lineman. DE, I get, and that wouldn't bother me one bit. CB, I get, just sucks for 1st round. TE... zzzzz ..but it won't make me sell my Fins gear. DT ..really? I thought Odrick was moving inside. OL ... had it. Done. Sell my gear, and start watching the WNBA and syncronized bass fishing. This is the worst team for a draftnik to be a fan of.
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YG. I don't have an issue with who LEFT. But I do see a curious pattern with what replaces them. I have not been an Ireland fan. But I simply want him to do the best job possible with the Dolphins. Some moves I like, some seem like questionmarks. But he IS painting himself in a corner with the draft. BPA isn't possible. Why does someone who claims BPA is his core philosophy do that?
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I actually like what we've done in FA, but some of it gives me pause as to what the plan is. Curiosity. 1. Wallace = good job, needed. Maybe #1 guy, def #2. 2. Dansby out, Ellerbe in = Unsure. Dansby had same write up the year we got him. Seems sideways. But Ellerbe could be better than his history. 3. Burnett out, Wheeler in = Shrug. Some folks say big improvement, some say sideways. 4. Fasano out, Keller in = On the surface, seems like a better match. Like it. 5. Gibson = Depth sign, mainly at #3 Wr position. We had 2 #3s already, plus rookies. Not excited. BUT IF this is just a pick up to replace Bess, and we STILL draft a dynamic slot... then I'm happy with this. IF this is our answer at slot competition... not happy. 6. Long out, Martin moves, RT ? = Seems like Ireland trusts NO ONE at line he doesn't draft, and HAS to draft high. Don't get it, but there ya go. 7. Smith out, ?? in = Seems like a thrift decision. Coulda had a a couple options in FA, but opting to draft one instead. **On the whole, I'm OK with drafting vs. signing FAs. But we seem to have a pattern which is what bothers me. Ireland has always maintained he drafts for BPA and has no plans otherwise. Yet he paints himself in a corner, and makes it so he HAS to draft certain positions. Positions he's already accustomed to drafting: O-lineman and CBs. O-linemen he's been successful mostly. CBs, he's 0-2. Just an odd pattern, and I don't get it.
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All the FA signings to cover the WR positions... Letting Long walk, and probably not signing any other OLine starter... Big conspiracy so we can draft an O lineman top round again. Thank goodness! Ireland almost had to watch some college WR film. Whew! LaCrosse players make fine WRs, and they'll be available after the draft. (yes, I'm mean. I may change my tune after the draft if Ireland surprises me.)
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