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Y does the picture Ira chose for this blog look like some over zealous french guy triying to teach Beasley how to bowl????? It looks like a Ben Stiller comedy, or a SNL skit.
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what about trading james jones to LA for adam morrison? they need a shooter, we need cap space for the summer, maybe throw in a future 2nd rounder to sweeten the pot Posted by: adrian | January 28, 2010 at 12:44 AM Most certainly down with that. Its not like they can do anything win Adam's cap space.
actually, I thought we held our own against Atlanta last year but for Wade being injured with the bad back in the crucial game for us - win and we go up by two games i think... Posted by: helium | January 24, 2010 at 10:42 PM More like bad play. Posted by: HeatDolphans#1 | January 24, 2010 at 10:43 PM Too many injuries and Chalmers making Bibby look like he had Deron Williams legs. JO got hurt, Spoe got more retarded, and once we lost Moon, that was it. Moon helped on the boards, the defense, and just energy.
Marino never had a run game or defense.
Marino wasnt a choker. He has or should I say had so many playoff records for a Qb it was insane. I wouldnt relaly call Brett a choker, maybe a chucker, if you can use that term in football. Thats always been his problem, just too greedy.
Cant believe a guy tried to argue me that Fvare was the greatest QB ever. For the reason we just saw, he will never be considered that...
wright should have dunked Posted by: adrian | January 22, 2010 at 08:45 PM Been saying this for 5 years now....
i wouldnt want to give gay $13 million a year. not when you can get a better player in maggette for $10 million a year. Posted by: TylerD | January 22, 2010 at 09:03 PM You cant really say Maggette is that much better, if better at all.Hes also a health concern.
"I like Rudy as well but not at a max deal 10-12 million would be fine. But who else can you get after? Wade, Rudy, Beasley is not enough to compete, though you should win some games. Is that what we waited 3 years for? " Felton Wade Gay Beasley Haywood Contender? Posted by: cruicruise | January 22, 2010 at 09:01 PM Ehh. Looking at it right now you say no, but, there are 3 players in that starting lineup that are still developing and can really get better.
Sorry, I don't see it happening. He had a sweet deal with the Suns and guess what... he took the money. Posted by: JB | January 22, 2010 at 08:59 PM I htink what you have to look at going forward, is the Hawks have terrible management. If they get whooped in the 2nd round again whos to say what realy happens? Will they pay Joe the max? Thats the big question, something you cant automatically say yes to.
LOL@ Eric Reid commenting that Wes Unseld was one of the best screen setters he ever aw. LMAO. WTF if wrong with this organization?
This Dwade guy is pretty good, I prefer him over Chalmers...
Now I wouldnt mind having Kevin Love, its just not over Beasley.
The Kings are 14-18 without him this year, and 1-8 with him. He attends the Brook Lopez and Kevin Love School of Accumulating Stats in Losing Efforts. Posted by: josh | January 22, 2010 at 04:18 PM lol. I wouldnt say all that. The last time the Kings were in the playoffs, Martin was huge for them. I htink they got screwed vs the spurs. The thing is, now he is looked at as the franchise player when the truth is, all he does is score. He needs to be a part of the team instead of being the team.
"If we go the free agency route, why wont they be there? We have their Bird rights" Haha, nah. In order to use the cap space, those players have to be taken off your books, which means you no longer hold their Bird rights. Posted by: Chris | January 22, 2010 at 04:14 PM Another point to make is, if we add the players I just brought up, that should still leave us with cap space.I keep saying we will not build this team thru free agency alone. More than likely its going to be OFFSEASON trades, even if they are sign and trades.
"If we go the free agency route, why wont they be there? We have their Bird rights" Haha, nah. In order to use the cap space, those players have to be taken off your books, which means you no longer hold their Bird rights. Posted by: Chris | January 22, 2010 at 04:14 PM You know what, you are right, I forgot. Regardless, how much money do you really think those 2 are going to command on the open market? Does anybody really think resigning those 2 will be mission impossible?
Beasley has a higher ceiling than Love. I'm not arguing that. As of right now, Love is the better player. Posted by: eddieomaha | January 22, 2010 at 03:59 PM As far as that goes Eddie, really, all you are looking at is rebounding numbers. Theres a lot of things on the floor Love cant do as well as Beasley. The only thing Beasley cant do as well as Love is rebound and grow a few inches. And pass, I will say that.
kb, if the Heat go the free agency route Haslem and Wright won't be here. The bench will start with Chalmers (unless he's starting), Cook, James Jones, and whatever vets will take the minimum (Anthony, Magloire, Arroyo, Diawra, etc). That bench is far worse than LA, Boston, Orlando, and Cleveland... even if it is just because the other teams have one guy who actually can play in the NBA. Posted by: JB | January 22, 2010 at 03:20 PM If we go the free agency route, why wont they be there? We have their Bird rights, we can bring them back even AFTER we sign FAs, assuming they dont sign with another team before then. I wasnt using those 2 in comparison for next year really, I was just saying what those other teams have on their benches is not that special. Our 2 best bench players would look good playing for those eams because of the starters(6thman) they have. Thats what I was saying. Camby Beasley Joe Wade Kirk Haslem Wright Magloire Thats 2 guys we can add in free agency, and one whos can be had thru trade. THe bench looks weak right? Imagine if we had an Odom coming off the bench. That bench wouldnt be bad at all because there never would be a time where you wouldnt have a capable ball handler and scorer on the floor. Magloire- Magloire Odom -----Beasley Wright- --Odom Joe ------Wright Kirk -----Wade Camby --Magloire Odom ---Camby Wright- Odom Wade ---Joe Kirk ---Wade Just an example, and I know we arent getting Odom...unless LA doesnt repeat which I dont think they will. The matchups are endless and all because of the versatility 3 starters and a 6th man bring. And thats using pretty much the same weak a$$ bench we have now. Any complaints?
kb, if the Heat go the free agency route Haslem and Wright won't be here. The bench will start with Chalmers (unless he's starting), Cook, James Jones, and whatever vets will take the minimum (Anthony, Magloire, Arroyo, Diawra, etc). That bench is far worse than LA, Boston, Orlando, and Cleveland... even if it is just because the other teams have one guy who actually can play in the NBA. Posted by: JB | January 22, 2010 at 03:20 PM If we go the free agency route, why wont they be there? We have their Bird rights, we can bring them back even AFTER we sign FAs, assuming they dont sign with another team before then. I wasnt using those 2 in comparison for next year really, I was just saying what those other teams have on their benches is not that special. Our 2 best bench players would look good playing for those eams because of the starters(6thman) they have. Thats what I was saying. Camby Beasley Joe Wade Kirk Haslem Wright Magloire Thats 2 guys we can add in free agency, and one whos can be had thru trade. THe bench looks weak right? Imagine if we had an Odom coming off the bench. That bench wouldnt be bad at all because there never would be a time where you wouldnt have a capable ball handler and scorer on the floor. Magloire Magloire Odom Beasley Wright Odom Joe Wright Kirk Wade Camby Magloire Odom Camby Wright Odom Wade Joe Kirk Wade Just an example, and I know we arent getting Odom...unless LA doesnt repeat which I dont think they will. The matchups are endless and all because of the versatility 3 starters and a 6th man bring. And thats using pretty much the same weak a$$ bench we have now. Any complaints?
So, I'm assuming Bosh will be the best case scenario. So if the Heat get Bosh it will take 2-3 additional years to get the kind of bench help/supporting cast that the Cavs, Lakers, Magic, and even the aging Celtics have. By that time Wade will be 30 and Beasley will be 23 and either playing for some other team or being forced to play SF on the Heat. Posted by: JB | January 22, 2010 at 10:38 AM Posted by: JB | January 22, 2010 at 01:55 PM I disagree. Those benches are not impressive aside from the magic. What they have is a lot of versatility in the starting lineup, and maybe 1 sixth man, that allows these benches to look good. In that regard, its only Odom and Sheed and they add to the versatility. Haslem has been very good in his 6th man role this year, its just he brings no versatility. If he were 6-11 an d could slide to center and give us that 10 and 8 off the bench, it be as much of an affect as Sheed or Odom. Those benches are nothing to write home about, especially Cleveland. I wouldnt trade Haslem or Dorrell for anything on Cleveland's bench right now. After Odom and Sheed, theres nothin gon those 2 benches I want either. Haslem for Walton or Powell? Wrigth for Tony allen or big baby? No way in hell. It doesnt take a lot to build a bench. Whats important is the starters and how you can mix and match your lineup. Thats something Spo is too retarded to know how to do, but also something our team lacks when it comes to having versatile players. When it comes to benches, Portland, Orlando,Dallas, even a healthy Clippers team, those are deep benches. These other contending teams, those benches are nothing to write home about, they just have enough starters with enough versatility to mix and match personnell so the bench players they have dont get exposed. Farmer,Walton,Powell,Sasha...that sh*t is weak without Odom or having the ability to slide Gasol to center Tony, House, Davis,Daniels....nothing without Sheed, Pierce, and Ray being able to slide up and down the roster. Cleveland has decent depth with parker, moon, and big z, but thats nothing devestating. None of that even works if they didnt have 3 different ballhandlers in Lebronx,West, and Mo, that can also score and play 2 different spots, and in LBJ's case 4 if he chooses to be. These tams ahead of us are not that impressive to me at all. Lets see if Cleveland beats any of the other 3 contenders in the playoffs when it matters. They sure were amped up for a regular season win alst night. I bet they had no problem shaking hands then.
A: I wouldn't expect anything dramatic, with the focus still on 2010. But moving Carlos Arroyo ahead of Chalmers and providing more minutes to always-active Jamaal Magloire could send a needed message. Its amazing how some of the sh*t we have been saying since probably game 5, doesnt register with Ira or the heat brass until the midway point of the season. Thats another problem with this team. Everybody is with this "give it time" approach. Thats fine in certain conditions with certain things, but not when things are ridiculously obvious. They continue to try to fit square pegs in round holes.
When is a player averaging 15 and 12 not as good as a player averaging 16 and 6? Posted by: eddieomaha | January 22, 2010 at 01:49 PM When its Shawn Marion versus Ron Artest.