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A-Team,
ESA has a high resolution version of that figure:
http://spaceinimages.esa.int/Images/2013/02/Sea_ice_thickness
CryoSat-2 reveals major Arctic sea-ice loss
We knew that observations by the CryoSat-2 satellite were by and large confirming the modeled data from the Pan-Arctic Ice Ocean Modeling and Assimilation System (PIOMAS) at the Polar Science Center, because of the recent publication in GRL of Laxon et al.'s CryoSat-2 estimates of Arctic sea i...
I believe we have just seen the largest ever single day drop in Global CT SIA, -561k km2:
2012.9069 -0.3898046 20.2006760 20.5904808
2012.9095 -0.8500094 19.6394539 20.4894638
It was a combination of -377k drop in the south and -185k drop in the north (in November!). Even separately those numbers would be quite exceptional though possibly not unprecedented.
The previous record is -523k from January 2008. There is also -1.2M in December 1987 but that is an obvious typo, sensor glitch or other error.
CT SIA finally above -2 million km2 anomaly mark
After three full months the Cryosphere Today sea ice area anomaly trend line has finally left the zone below the 2 million square kilometre mark: As usual, Jim Pettit is serving the current statistical hors d'oeuvres: CT SIA area increased by 203k km2 yesterday; that was the fifth double centu...
P-maker
That theory about the polynyas formed by ocean currents comes from the cited paper by Bindschadler and others. There is a non-paywall copy here:
http://www.igsoc.org:8080/journal/57/204/j10j169.pdf
Looking for winter weirdness 2
While the US East coast is preparing for an intensifying Sandy (Jeff Masters has all the info you could possibly want), Europe is being struck by a very early cold snap. According to German meteorologist Christoph Hartmann such early snows in Germany occur every 30 to 40 years (link).* Bulgar...
Chris R,
The Francis & Hunter paper you cite finds a correlation between atmospheric humidity, downwelling infra-red and ice loss, but they seem to completely ignore latent heat flux between atmosphere and ice/ocean. Latent heat flux is certainly strongly correlated with humidity; it could even change direction. Do you think latent heat flux could have a significant role here?
NSIDC Arctic sea ice news September 2012
A couple of days ago the NSIDC released its latest analysis for the month of September. For the exact numbers with regards to the shattered record I refer you to the article itself. This graph says it all: The analysis then moves on to some interesting comparisons with 2007. First off, the ...
There are two obvious negative feedbacks:
As the ice extent shrinks, more of the extra heat in the arctic goes into warming the waters rather than melting the ice. Note that this is a negative feedback with respect to ice loss but not with respect to arctic warming.
As the arctic warms, the temperature difference between the arctic and lower latitudes shrinks. This tends to reduce the net heat flux into the arctic. Note again that this is a negative feedback with respect to arctic warming but not with respect to global warming.
These are real negative feedbacks but I'm not sure about their timing and strength. They might be overwhelmed by other effects including new kinds of positive feedbacks like storm damage to thinning ice, but I would not be surprised to see some kind of a Gompertz like tail.
Naive Predictions of 2013 Sea Ice
These predictions are naive in the sense that they are not based on a physical model, nor other measurements apart from the 30-odd year history of the index in question. Moreover, they are made a year in advance as winter freeze-up is just starting. The predictions are simply If ... Then stateme...
The multi-year ice video in the NOAA ClimateWatch Magazine article is fascinating to watch in slow motion. Three distinct processes behind the disappearance of MYI can be observed:
Export through Fram Strait. This has been going on for a long time, I guess, so it alone does not explain the loss of MYI.
Increased melting of FYI. There isn't enough FYI anymore at the end of summer to replenish the flushed out MYI.
Increased melting of MYI in the Beaufort Gyre, first in the Chukchi and Beaufort Seas and later in the East Siberian Sea. This vipes out the Pacific side MYI that is immune to the lure of Fram Strait.
More vids
I'm pretty sure someone mentioned these while I was away in slowinternetistan, but the visuals are so stunning that I'm posting them two weeks later. These videos, uploaded to YouTube by noiv, were shot by folks on one of the helicopters of the Polarstern research icebreaker. I don't know when ...
Nightvid Cole,
Because extent is not constant, your equation needs to use the proper product rule:
dV = E dT + T dE
You are rigth. My equation was badly formulated. What I meant was
dV = E cH
where H is the average net heat flux per square kilometer and c is some constant (with appropriate units). I used dT as a proxy for cH but that is not correct as you point out.
The rest of my argument still holds. H is not growing very fast anymore while E is starting to fall rapidly leading to slower ice loss. In theory.
PIOMAS October 2012 (minimum)
We already knew a few weeks ago that the PIOMAS sea ice volume record had been broken, but with the latest data release by the Polar Science Center at the University of Washington we now know the minimum sea ice volume for 2012, as calculated by the Pan-Arctic Ice Ocean Modeling and Assimilation...
"Keep in mind that as surface area decreases, more thickness has to be lost to get the same volume drop, so it becomes harder."
I've been thinking about this too and came up with this equation:
dV = E x dT
where
dV = volume loss rate, the (average) annual loss of ice volume from September to September.
E = sea ice extent in September.
dT = thickness loss rate, the (average) annual loss of ice thickness from September to September.
For example the equation for 80s is:
75 km3/a = 7.5M km2 x 10 mm/a
and for the decade 2002-2012:
750 km3/a = 5M km2 x 150 mm/a
(These are rough numbers obtained by eyeballing some graphs.)
The rationale for the equation is that any additional heat input (such as absorbed insolation) to the September extend area is almost completely spent on melting ice that would otherwise survive through the melt season. Additional heat input elsewhere ends up warming the ocean waters instead.
Up to now, the equation has been dominated by the dramatic increase in the thickness loss rate, which can be explained by two factors. First, when you start low, near zero, as in the 80s, a small increase in the average temperature can cause a large relative growth of the melt rate. Second, feedback effects like meltpond albedo effect and loss of multi-year ice have caused further acceleration. I'm not expecting this to continue, however. The thickness loss rate is already so high that any further growth is likely to be relatively small. In contrast, the reduction of ice extent is becoming more and more significant in the relative sense. This could mean a sigmoidal tail to the curves.
The real world is not that simple of course. There are effects like ice export through Fram strait and storm damage to the thinning ice that do not fit in the equation. Also plain natural variation can muddle the picture. 2007 and 2010 saw the ice volume drop by 2500 km3 from the previous year. A similar drop next year would leave less than 1000 km3 of ice. Thus, while there may be theoretical reasons to expect a sigmoidal tail, the ice might not survive long enough for us to see it through the noise.
PIOMAS October 2012 (minimum)
We already knew a few weeks ago that the PIOMAS sea ice volume record had been broken, but with the latest data release by the Polar Science Center at the University of Washington we now know the minimum sea ice volume for 2012, as calculated by the Pan-Arctic Ice Ocean Modeling and Assimilation...
Jim,
"(I think the state of knowledge is still as represented, but I'm not positive.)"
Found a couple of recent papers:
http://dx.doi.org/10.5194/cp-7-603-2011
http://dx.doi.org/10.5194/cpd-8-2969-2012
It seems that problems with the proxy data explain at least part of the discrepancy but the models are not in the clear either.
Models are improving, but can they catch up?
All models are wrong, but some are useful, as the saying goes. However, when looking at how Arctic sea ice decline is modeled, one might be tempted to say that all sayings are useful, but some are wrong. To be fair, I should be the last person taking a piss at climate models. Hundreds of brill...
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