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Kwaku
Bilbao (Spain)
Formerly known as Kofi at TennisWorld.
Interests: tennis, science, science fiction, technology, photography
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Alexis, I know. I am not satisfied either with writing those stereotypes. But they hold some truth, I think, even if exaggerated and so much oversimplified. Rafa has lots of talent, but his trainings are the longest and most intense on tour. Fed works very hard, but his talent is otherworldly and his trainings are "pachangas" (=feisty parties), at least the public ones. The "we Fed fans love tennis, you Rafans don't" holds negligible truth; it is just crap.
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BP, your 908pm was funny! :-)
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fifties, nice post.
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This "Fed fans are fans of tennis but Rafa fans are fans of the monster" thing (exaggerating) is one of the stupid generalizations that all Fed fans make :) Now seriously, I have played tennis all my life (although my talent does not allow for any high level even if I had taken classes and taken it seriously). For much of my life I even thought that nobody could ever enjoy playing tennis more than I did (although eventually you find other freaks and see that not to be true). I was a big fan of McEnroe as a child, when there were no fellow Spaniards at the top of the game, and have followed tennis ever since (with a gap during the Sampras years --the game became boring for me because it became too fast for a variety of shots to be displayed). When Moya and Ferro came it was nice to have Spaniards at the top of the game (they were both even no.1, albeit shortly). But when Rafa came he added something new and addictive. Federer is technically perfect, but Rafa shows us mere mortals that we can achieve great things with will and hard work. G*d touched Fed, but Rafa is like he did it himself! I have also been surprised at how much interest tennis loses for me with Rafa out of it. I will follow the US open, but not as intensely, that's for sure.
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The one who said "the king is dead, long live the king" was not a prodigy of prescience...
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OT How close was the Olympic basket final, if you saw it? Here the media are doing like Spain had chances, but my son saw it and has just told me you could always see the USA were going to win...
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if the tour -> of the tour
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Russ, some things Pete said are right or at lest debatable, like Rafa lately complaining too much (to each their own), but saying that Rafa should be grateful that so much of the tour is played on clay is just not fair. Clay is not an inferior form of tennis just because US players are not successful on it. To many of us, it is where the best tennis can be seen. And if you want to transcend pure taste and go for something objective, the fact that players who learned on clay can be successful on hard but not much vice-versa indicates that clay tennis does teach the essentials better (apart from being not so hard on the body). Rafa has earned every point of whatever ranking he's ever had and I am absolutely serious that most of the tour should be played on clay because it is the best surface that is not too expensive (it is not). Grass should be increased too, but in this case maintenance may indeed be an issue, i don't know. Yours was a short post so this was prolly not the case, but if you did mean that Rafa having to be grateful that so much if the tour is played on clay was too an eye opener, and if you are the Russ that I know, then you disappoint me.
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But clay is the best surface for true tennis, no? Where all aspects of the game are developed, no? Why soooo much hard? I don't get it. Just because it is cheaper to maintain? In the USA there is supposed to be enough money for that at least... and the poor neighbors down in South America find money for clay courts? If tennis were played according to sport criteria and health criteria, the abnormal thing would be to play on hard. But US players suck so big on clay that even a 30% of the tour would be too much for them to be played on clay...
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Aube, yes, but the caveman was 55 years old, lolol! His name was Bobby Riggs, by the way. However, "During the 1998 Australian Open, sisters Serena and Venus Williams boasted that they could beat any man ranked outside the world's top 200. The challenge was accepted by Karsten Braasch, a German player ranked No 203 (his highest ranking was No 38). before the matches, Braasch played a round of golf in the morning, drank a couple of beers, smoked a few cigarettes, and then played the Williams sisters for a set each, one after the other. He defeated Serena, 6-1, and Venus, 6-2. Serena said afterwards "I didn't know it would be that hard. I hit shots that would have been winners on the women's tour and he got to them easily."" And "When former number 1's Kim Clijsters and Lleyton Hewitt were dating, she said that she struggled to win a point of Hewitt, let alone a game. When female player Chris Evert-Lloyd was at her peak, she said her brother who played low level college tennis beat her (from her autobiography)" From http://www.topendsports.com/sport/tennis/men-v-women.htm
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Maybe NP can run one of those tournaments to see who is right ;-)
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ladyjulia, Of course I meant of comparable ranking. Serena Williams will beat me to pieces, but that's too obvious to say :-) However I do think any top 100 man will beat any top 100 woman 99% of the times. However that is irrelevant to what matters, which is the value as spectacle --the rivalries and the matchups. When Sampras was beating everyone with a couple of shots (not his fault!) I enjoyed more seeing the wta.
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kemot, If the only reason for you to write what you wrote was indeed that "I was really surprised that you wrote about WTA because I thought that you just don't care about it just like I for example don't care much about baseball", then I am the one to apologize for assuming there were other motives. As I told you, I am not specially interested in women's tennis, but I like to feel free to go into any interesting discussion, and that's why I posted my views on that one, no more no less. As for your propositions: Fist one, I think there's better than doing nothing; Second one: too slow. Maybe if players were forced to stop it overnight by means of warnings and penalty points, we would all be surprised at how fast they learn without really affecting their games.
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"Yummy,lekkert bon delicieux nounoukh nanakh neekhhhhhhhh!" Lol, Aube, you're too much :-D
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beth, The only thing I was disagreeing with was your "Trust me - they will figure it out , if enough people do just that ." Not even openly disagreeing, but just "not so sure". All the rest you say, including your 02:25 PM, is ok for me. P.S. Between you not buying wta tickets and executives reading your little protest, maybe the latter is more effective. Because the former does not punish the appropriate subject, but the latter might induce the wta as organization to take steps (if you convince the right executive :-)
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kemot, I did read and ponder the "You of course entitled to your opinions" before I posted. And I concluded it was written for a reason: to pre-defend yourself from what you were going to say next. Because when that formal statement is the introduction to "I didn't know that you're interested in women's tennis...." etc., well, you don't need to be a genius (not even a psychologist) to know that you were hinting at something else. There is no other way I can conceive that you bring up my fondness or unfondness of the wta into this discussion than to make my opinions look as less legitimate than those of a "true fan of the wta". If there's another reason for you to bring it than making my views look less legitimate than a true wta fan's, please explain. As for solution: I said it. WTA prohibit it. Not all, of course, but the most extreme cases (Sharapova, Venus... set a decibel level. And btw, of course the same for the atp: Granollers...) But I'm genuinely open to be convinced that my "solution" has more disadvantages than advantages, no problem with that at all. Admittedly, I have not thought much about this.
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kemot, Nowadays I don't follow the wta much because I think men's tennis is presently a better product. Not just better in terms of the level of play (which is obvious, a man will always beat a woman and that's normal), but better in terms of the spectacle offered (there have been and will be times when female tennis was much more thrilling than male tennis because of the rivalries and matchups created, but for me it turns out not to be the case these days). And yes, the shrieking does not help raise my interest in it. But please tell me how this makes my opinions less valid than yours. Should I stop commenting on the WTA? Should my comments be confined to the ATP because I am more interested in it? It would be nice if you were explicit in your answers.
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beth, "By the same token - I cannot stand to hear Granollers either. The noise he makes is not really a grunt per se but more the bellowing of a wounded rhino . I have actually walked out of a match he was playing ( and he was playing Tommy Haas ! Tommy freakin Haas people - and I left ) because the noise was so offensive. )" Thank you, this illustrates that it is not all a sexist thing. "So I have crossed him off my list of players I will support with my entertainment dollar - or at least I won't subject myself to watching him. Let him play in a vacuum - That is our answer - if no one comes to see them maybe they will get the idea. It is my only weapon . If the noises bother you , dont pay to attend where the offenders play. Trust me - they will figure it out , if enough people do just that ." Not so sure. If the result of Granoller's noises is playing with little public but he still gets his points and his money, his incentive to stop it is small because he is not punished personally, but the atp is. It's similar to pretending natural selection to operate at the group level (http://edge.org/conversation/the-false-allure-of-group-selection): it is an attractive idea, but wrong, because the incentives of not grunting are not applied directly to the person who can stop it. That's the reason why it should be the WTA as organization the one who should prohibit the grunting if it thinks it affects its business model. ("Should" not in the moral, but in the instrumental sense.)
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gauloises, "it might distract someone from making the herculanean effort of moving their eyes..." No matter how ridiculously you want to phrase it (and you could do it even more), YES, the shrieking does literally distract many viewers from the game. And not only sexist morons, but worthy viewers who mute their TV because they are interested in the tennis.
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gauloises, "Yes, I suppose the 'distracting' question could be interpreted that way" Not only "could" --I actually think it is the most natural way to interpret it. It's the way I interpreted it when I heard it (and my mind is not a very twisted one, I think). And in fact I think that is the way the question was meant to be. But we would only know by asking the interviewer, no? If the question were "Don't you players distract each other by doing that?" I would find it weird; but I think the question "Don't you think that the shrieking distracts the people from the game?" is a very normal question to ask, specially because so many people dislike it. Tennis is a spectacle, and the spectator's point of view is at least as natural to take account of as the point of view of the two people inside the court. gauloises, "simply put, no, I don't think anything should be done or needs to be done. I think it's a magnificent example of a total non-issue which is often - not always - tinged with sexism" There is a difference between it not bothering you personally (which of course I believe), and it being a non-issue. It does bother other people not named you. And if there is a significant part of them not due to sexism (which you acknowledge), either: a) let that significant part become distant from the WTA; b) teach the women to stop it. I think a little humility is the better option here and choose b), because the business model of something like the wta (not only the players, but all stakeholders) is about having as many people interested in it as possible. And many people are genuinely distanced from it because of the shrieking (even if you discount the ones due to sexism who would never be interested in the WTA no matter what). kemot, "Do you suggest that main job in tennis is done by spectators who must put maximal effort to watching...?" Very funny. But I do suggest that the spectators pay for the players' living (not that they don't earn it of course, but that the spectators pay, yes). I do suggest that the phrase "the client is always right" is not literally right, but has some truth to it. When so many "clients" dislike it, it can be many things, but it's certainly not a non-issue. I do suggest that the shrieking not only distracts, but genuinely puts off many people (male and female) from watching the wta. And it's often not a matter of sexism, because many of those people love female tennis so much that they still watch it on tv... with the sound muted. The easy way out is "if you don't like it, don't watch it". And the proud one. However: a) it really happens, and it detracts from the wta as a business model; b) shrieking is not necessary, as proved by the men. The women can just learn not to do it, and THAT would be indeed a non-issue. P.S. Why am I the only one ever posting jokes? I feel like Game Lover, who is the only one ever asking how our own tennis goes...
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Venus's answer is like the joke: --How do you castrate your bulls? --Easy, take a big stone in each hand, open the bull's legs and BAM! --But that must be very painful, no? --No! You just have to make sure you remove your fingers!
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gauloises, No, she is not asked it in terms of whether it is distracting to the opponent --just "distracting" (which can be to the opponent and to the people who watch). She is first just asked if there is too much grunting in tennis; and after she fails to really answer, she is asked again (of course) if there is too much grunting or maybe she thinks it is necessary so if it is distracting, so be it. And when she finally answers she takes exclusively the point of view of herself (doesn't even occur to her that it can be distracting for the public even if it is not for herself!). Poor question, maybe (or maybe not!); poor answer, sure. (Btw, I think the more and more publicly this is asked, the more they will feel uncomfortable with it.)
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I didn't particularly like the response, because she focused totally on herself instead of taking for a moment the place of the spectator who has to hear that.
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You won't hear me make many comments on fashion and stuff... but yellow suits black women wonderfully.
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