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My apologies to Steve. The introduction makes it clear that the book is not a treatise, but, in a way more interesting. It is a "conversational, personal, and accessible" "reflective introduction to the major and minor rules and themes in the law and ethics governing the behavior of American lawyers."
Steve Gillers' new book
I just received in the mail, and am looking forward to reading, Steve Gillers' new one-volume treatise, Regulation of the Legal Profession. It's in the Essentials series published by Aspen.
Sometime in the early '80s, as I recall, the Senate Judiciary Committee was considering a recommendation that the Congress adopt comprehensive federal rules of lawyers' ethics. My recollection is that I was the only one who testified for it, and that the ABA and a representative from the Reagan DOJ testified against it.
Do we need ethics rules?
I know it's been asked before, but if we assume for a moment that there are no professional conduct rules, wouldn't the courts, via caselaw, and perhaps the legislatures, fill the void; and might we not expect the product that emerges to look a lot like the one we have?
A relatively uniform set of ethical rules is particularly desirable when we have so much interstate law practice. Some years ago, when there was less uniformity, I advised a law firm in a case that might have been governed by substantially different (indeed, conflicting) rules in DC, NY, and CA, all of which had significant contacts with the transaction.
Do we need ethics rules?
I know it's been asked before, but if we assume for a moment that there are no professional conduct rules, wouldn't the courts, via caselaw, and perhaps the legislatures, fill the void; and might we not expect the product that emerges to look a lot like the one we have?
If so, then what's the point of the question?
Do we need ethics rules?
I know it's been asked before, but if we assume for a moment that there are no professional conduct rules, wouldn't the courts, via caselaw, and perhaps the legislatures, fill the void; and might we not expect the product that emerges to look a lot like the one we have?
Coincidentally, I will be speaking at St. Thomas Law School on November 3 about Lawyers' Ethics and the Constitution. The thesis is that scholars in lawyers' ethics too often give inadequate attention to the constitutional aspects of our field. My outline has nine major topics and several sub-topics.
The Supreme Court and the law of lawyering
PR is hot, hot, hot. Renee Knake's new article alerts us to six -- count'em six -- pending cases at the Supreme Court dealing with the law of lawyering. In Prioritizing Professional Responsibility and the Legal Profession: An Emerging Trend in United States Supreme Court Jurisprudence?, Knake ...
A significant part of this issue could have been avoided if the ABA had adopted the following proposal from the American Lawyer’s Code of Conduct, Rule 2.5 (1980) (as they have belatedly adopted several other ALCC rules):
2.5. A lawyer representing a corporation shall, as early as possible in the lawyer-client relationship, inform the board of directors of conflicts that might develop among the interests of the board, corporate officers, and shareholders. The lawyer shall receive from the board instructions in advance as to how to resolve such conflicts, and shall take reasonable steps to ensure that officers with whom the lawyer deals, and the shareholders, are made aware of how the lawyer has been instructed to resolve the conflicts of interest.
A paraphrase of the comment is:
Rule 2.5 requires the lawyer to take the reasonable steps necessary to avoid the situation in which the lawyer has awkward information, and cannot either disclose it or keep it confidential without betraying someone’s reasonable expectations of trust.
That situation occurs because the lawyer has failed to inform the board of readily foreseeable conflicts of interest and to receive guidance in advance. By getting the board’s instructions at the outset, the lawyer can make sure that each interested constituency is properly informed and can act accordingly.
For example, the board might prefer to maximize candor between its officers and the lawyer, and therefore instruct the lawyer to honor the officers’ confidences, even in reporting to the board. The shareholders would then be in a position to approve or disapprove that policy, or to relinquish their shares. In the alternative, the board might prefer to know everything the lawyer knows (perhaps only in some specified circumstances). In that event, the officers would be on notice that in some circumstances they might want to consult with personal counsel before deciding whether to disclose certain information to corporate counsel.
9th Cir. Looking for Guidance on Attorney-Client Privilege
LEF readers may remember Andy's post with the excellent title, "Irate at Irell." The post linked to a district court decision from the C.D. Cal. excoriating Irell & Manella for breaching its duty of loyalty to a corporate officer during an internal investigation on behalf of the corporation of ...
It's good to see lawyers' ethics playing a significant role in such an important area. I have also provided advice and affidavits to several of them, including Major Mori, who is mentioned in the article.
Alexandra Lahav, "Portraits of Resistance: Lawyer Responses to Unjust Proceedings"
Article here; author's page. I once had a civil rights lawyer speak to my students about what it was like to represent indigent African-Americans in rural southern courts where the judges weren't lawyers and were prejudiced. The lawyer told us about the difficult choice between trying to get s...
Thank you, John. This is an excellent and important article.
Alexandra Lahav, "Portraits of Resistance: Lawyer Responses to Unjust Proceedings"
Article here; author's page. I once had a civil rights lawyer speak to my students about what it was like to represent indigent African-Americans in rural southern courts where the judges weren't lawyers and were prejudiced. The lawyer told us about the difficult choice between trying to get s...
I agree that the First Amendment doesn’t resolve the issue. I raised it because of the opening discussion of the campaign finance case and other references to the fact that corporations are artificial persons. The suggestion is, of course, that corporations can properly be treated differently from individuals in important contexts like those referred to. I'd genuinely like to be convinced that that is so.
What is the justification for an attorney-client privilege for large corporations?
In class today, we discussed Upjohn and other cases variously defining the scope of the attorney-client privilege for corporations and other entities. One question that arose is whether there is any justification for any privilege? I distinguish the Ma and Pa Hardware store, where the corporatio...
I am deeply troubled by the power of large corporations to influence and even control public policy, and strongly sympathetic with limiting the power of large corporations.
However, I'm troubled by the fact that no one has mentioned here, much less dealt with, the argument that a corporation is an association and therefore within the protection of the First Amendment. Simply saying that a corporation is an artificial person, or does not have the dignity of an individual human being is not enough. Any association -- including the League of Women Voters -- could be defined as not a "person" or not having the dignity of an individual human person. But the First Amendment doesn't stop there.
I would very much like to be persuaded otherwise.
What is the justification for an attorney-client privilege for large corporations?
In class today, we discussed Upjohn and other cases variously defining the scope of the attorney-client privilege for corporations and other entities. One question that arose is whether there is any justification for any privilege? I distinguish the Ma and Pa Hardware store, where the corporatio...
I should add that in my experience, even members of the public who are otherwise sophisticated (including lawyers) can truly be remarkably dependent and unsophisticated when they are in the position of clients or would-be clients.
9th Cir. Looking for Guidance on Attorney-Client Privilege
LEF readers may remember Andy's post with the excellent title, "Irate at Irell." The post linked to a district court decision from the C.D. Cal. excoriating Irell & Manella for breaching its duty of loyalty to a corporate officer during an internal investigation on behalf of the corporation of ...
1) I disagree with the Restatement in a case in which the officer reasonably believes that the lawyer is representing her individually as well as the corporation.
2) Do you see a difference (as I do) if the context is not the lawyer-client evidentiary privilege in a courtroom, but whether the lawyer is forbidden to communicate the client-officer's information to the board of directors? I would say that the lawyer (who has implicated himself in a conflict of interest) should withdraw from representing both the officer and the corporation, and maintain confidentiality regarding the information received from the officer.
9th Cir. Looking for Guidance on Attorney-Client Privilege
LEF readers may remember Andy's post with the excellent title, "Irate at Irell." The post linked to a district court decision from the C.D. Cal. excoriating Irell & Manella for breaching its duty of loyalty to a corporate officer during an internal investigation on behalf of the corporation of ...
Apart from matters like misrepresentation, regulation of unauthorized practice is at best a waste of resources and at worst a restraint of trade and a violation of the First Amendment.
Based on his account of what he is doing, it would be outrageous for the bar to go after him.
Living in FL, Practice in MD and DC, $100M p/a for 30 minutes per day
Yes, you read that correctly. The ABA Journal is featuring "legal rebels" both on its web site and in the September issue. One such is Richard Granat, who now lives in Florida (age 69). He is profiled as a man who generates innovative ideas like Starbuck's does coffee flavors. Here's one: "His ...
I would add that too often "respect for the various relationships that comprise professional life" comes to mean (not that Rob means this) putting the interests of what one court called a "brother lawyer" ahead of the legal interests of the client. Illustrations are given in ULE.
Justified regulation of civility?
While I have not been a great fan of civility movements in professional discipline, even I have to acknowledge the legitimacy of professional discipline for the Toronto lawyer, Julia Ranieri who, after a verbal disagreement with a client who wished to change lawyers, punched her client in the no...
Isn't there a work-product issue lurking in the Costco case?
Odds and ends (August 31, 2009)
On Wednesday, the California Supreme Court will hear argument in Costco Wholesale v. Superior Court, perhaps the most important case on attorney client privilege in California in decades. Costco's lawyers had written a lengthy and dense opinion letter to Costco, and the trial court went through...
That’s a great question, Andy, and it makes me reponder my position.
There are two kinds of cases that I have been assuming in drawing a line between ethical and unethical conduct.
One is abandoned property, as in the crown-jewels case in which an investigator found privileged documents that had been consciously abandoned in a dumpster behind the opposing counsel’s office. I would distinguish this from a lawyer looking at documents that have been covered up with a blank piece of paper and left on a conference table during a break in negotiations. Those documents have not been abandoned, nor have they been directed to the other side, either purposefully or in error.
The other is the lawyer who is the passive recipient of a fax or email that has been directed to her, albeit in error. In that case, the information has not been consciously abandoned. However, the receiving lawyer has done nothing to induce the error and, as the passive recipient of the information, should be allowed retain it.
In your hypothetical, the lawyer who obtains the information has not been passive, nor has the information been consciously abandoned or even mis-transmitted to the other side. Rather the lawyer has purposefully planted spyware in an adversary’s computer to obtain information that has not been, and will not be, directed to him. He’s therefore not a passive recipient, but is more like a lawyer who surreptitiously sticks a transmitting bug under the conference table of his adversary.
The lawyer who passively receives an email that has been purposefully directed to her, and who, after having received it, mines it for metadata, is certainly closer to the line (that is, my line). That lawyer has not acted to induce the error, nor has she planted any spyware (like a cookie or bug) designed to obtain the information surreptitiously. However, the information has not been consciously abandoned, and, in the act of mining the metadata, she has taken an active role in obtaining the information. It could even be said that she has engaged in a kind of after-receipt “spying.”
Nevertheless, I’m satisfied with a distinction between after-the-receipt data-mining of a document that has been consciously sent to an adversary, and planting a bug or a cookie to obtain information that the adversary has not abandoned and has not consciously sent to an adversary who has been passive until after receipt of the document.
Yes, I can think of some closer-to-the-line hypos too – a problem, of course, with every line-drawing. But I’m comfortable with this one, although I’m sure others (not unreasonably) won’t be.
Cookies on LEF
I just logged onto LEF (for some extremely interesting discussion), and then found that my computer had accumulated four cookies that I don't want. Anyone concerned about potential adware and spyware might want to check under tools, options, and security/privacy for intrusive cookies.
Thank you, Andy. I'm somewhat reassured. As I think you know, I'm not very sophisticated about computer technology.
However, I did note the following on Wikipedia: "Besides privacy concerns, cookies also have some technical drawbacks. In particular, they do not always accurately identify users [and] they can be used for security attacks...."
Cookies on LEF
I just logged onto LEF (for some extremely interesting discussion), and then found that my computer had accumulated four cookies that I don't want. Anyone concerned about potential adware and spyware might want to check under tools, options, and security/privacy for intrusive cookies.
And after going into Typepad, I found eight more cookies.
Cookies on LEF
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Jordan,
I think that clip should be paired with the discussion in ULE at pp. 358-370, which explains the positive side of solicitation, either by the lawyer or through a "runner," and why it has a degree of First Amendment protection.
Is there a "canon" of legal ethics video clips?
This afternoon in my PR class, I am going to show the 60 Minutes story on Alton Logan, which is the best vehicle I have found for helping students appreciate the stakes of the confidentiality rule. I do not show many videos in class (though "The Hammer" Shapiro TV ads help frame our discussion ...
Coincidentally, I just showed that episode of The Practice to my class today. It's Honor Code, Season 6, Episode 7.
It introduces confidentiality, race as a tactic, interpretation of ethical rules, malpractice, lawyer autonomy vs. client autonomy, the duty to report unethical conduct, conflicts of interest, coaching witnesses, and morality vs. ethical rules.
The Alton Logan case is a great way to raise the issue of confidentiality, and Abbe Smith and I use it at Georgetown. I'm not sure, though, that the case helps students to appreciate the stakes of the confidentiality rule, if that means that it shows that confidentiality is the enemy of truth in the system. As one of my students pointed out today, the client (or, at least, the in-house counsel of the client) would never have told the firm about the aneurysm if there had been an exception permitting disclosure of the information to the plaintiff. That is, the firm simply wouldn't have had the truth to tell.
The student justified an exception in a death case by explaining that divulgence of the client's information in a death case would be so unusual that it wouldn't present a systemic threat, but that an exception for wrongful imprisonment (if lawyers acted on it) could become common enough to alert clients generally not to inform their lawyers about guilt. Thus, with a broad exception, lawyers would have less truth to reveal.
Is there a "canon" of legal ethics video clips?
This afternoon in my PR class, I am going to show the 60 Minutes story on Alton Logan, which is the best vehicle I have found for helping students appreciate the stakes of the confidentiality rule. I do not show many videos in class (though "The Hammer" Shapiro TV ads help frame our discussion ...
Steve and I disagreed from time to time on Counsel Connect in the 1990s on issues of professional responsibility. One of those exchanges appears in App. C, pp. 393-414 of Understanding Lawyers' Ethics (3d ed., 2004).
Welcome to Our Newest Co-Blogger, Professor Stephen Gillers
I am delighted to welcome Professor Stephen Gillers as our newest co-blogger. (His first post appears below.) As many readers of this blog know, Stephen is the author of numerous important books and articles on legal ethics, is a frequently quoted commentator on the legal profession, and has b...
I agree with you, John, on the discipline point. There's a lot more serious incompetence out there that is routinely ignored. I was responding to those who have assumed, without any qualification, that no candid advice was ever given, and then used that unsupported assumption as a justification for firing, disciplining, or prosecuting him.
Incidentally, my question about the Yoo critics who omitted relevant information (including the possibility of private, confidential advice) in their attacks on him was not entirely rhetorical.
For my own part, though, I wouldn't want to hire, or to work with, a lawyer who failed to give candid advice in a situation similar to Yoo's. And, although I wouldn't approve of yanking his tenure, in the different context of a hiring or contract-renewal, I would vote against having such a person as a colleague or as a teacher of law students.
Law professors on Professor Yoo and tenure
In the wake of the statement by the Dean of UC-Berkeley Law School, Christopher Edley, about whether the school will look into Professor Yoo's tenure, the New York Times collects views here (including from our own Brad Wendel), the UC-Berkeley law students discuss the issue here, and the Balkin b...
As a supporter of zealous advocacy,I can't imagine how -- but with one observation.
I have serious concerns about a prosecutor's office prosecuting one of its own adversaries. That is a power that is too easily abused, and that is precluded by conflict of interest rules. In any case in which a prosecutor's office believes that a criminal defense lawyer should be prosecuted, it should have the case handled by an independent prosecutor.
Interesting question: How many times has a prosecutor's office initiated a complaint -- criminal, disciplinary, or requesting disqualification -- against one of the all-too-many incompetent defense lawyers, and how many times has such a complaint been made against a highly effective defense lawyer?
NY Criminal Defense Lawyers Convicted of Attempted Witness Tampering
After six days of jury deliberations, a federal jury in Brooklyn has convicted a prominent New York criminal defense attorney (Robert Simels) and his associate on multiple federal felony counts, including attempted witness tampering. The testimony in the case brought to light many practices (an...
In my opinion, John Yoo is a despicable and immoral person. However, I have a great deal of difficulty with the idea that a lawyer or law professor can be professionally disciplined for taking a legal position that he or she genuinely believes in and that can be supported by a colorable legal argument.
Richard Nixon was not the only lawyer-president who believed that “[w]hen the President does it, that means that it is not illegal.” Abraham Lincoln, agreed, at least when the president is exercising powers as Commander in Chief (a premise, I believe, of Yoo’s position). “To carry out his duties as commander-in-chief, [Lincoln] believed that he could exercise powers normally reserved to the legislative branch of government.” David H. Donald, Lincoln 303 (1995). This resulted in “the greatest infringements on individual liberties than in any other period in American history,” including suspension by Lincoln of the right of habeas corpus Id. at 304. Note that the power to suspend habeas corpus is in Article I, not Article II, of the Constitution, making it highly doubtful that the president can do that without congressional authorization.
I also have concerns about disciplining a lawyer for incompetence in a memorandum, article, or opinion, as alleged by those who are hostile to the lawyer’s conclusions. If that were to be the standard for membership in the bar, or in legal academia, we would have very few, if any, lawyers or law professors, and certainly no judges. (Are those lawyers or law professors incompetent who have analyzed the same issue but who have omitted reference to Abraham Lincoln’s position on the issue? How about omitting the fact that at least four sitting Supreme Court Justices agree with Yoo?)
Also, there is an assumption by some that Yoo or the OLC failed to give candid advice to the President. First, we do not know that to be the case. Private advice might have acknowledged weaknesses as well as strengths in the position. Second, we do not know that the President requested advice in the memo in question, as distinguished from a CYA memo (which lawyers frequently give to clients).
In short, as despicable as Yoo and his views might be, he should not be disciplined by the bar or by his law school.
Law professors on Professor Yoo and tenure
In the wake of the statement by the Dean of UC-Berkeley Law School, Christopher Edley, about whether the school will look into Professor Yoo's tenure, the New York Times collects views here (including from our own Brad Wendel), the UC-Berkeley law students discuss the issue here, and the Balkin b...
From a 1978 article and ULE:
Suppose that you are going about some pressing matter when your arm is suddenly seized by an old man with a long gray beard, a wild look in his eye, and what appears to be an enormous dead bird hanging around his neck, and the old man launches into a tale of a bizarre adventure at sea. If he is a stranger and you are alone on a poorly lighted street, you may well call the police. If he is a stranger, but you decide that he is harmless, you may simply go on to your other responsibilities. If he is a friend or member of your family, you may feel obligated to spend some time listening to the ancient mariner, or even to confer with others as to how to care for him. If you are a psychiatric social worker, you may act in yet some other way, and that action may depend upon whether you are on duty at your place of employment, or hurrying so that you will not be late to a wedding--and in the latter case, your decision may vary depending upon whether the wedding is someone else's or your own.
Surely there can be no moral objection to those radically different courses of conduct, or to the fact that they are governed substantially by personal, social, and professional context, that is, by role-differentiation. One simply cannot be expected, in any rational moral system, to react to every stranger in the same way in which one may be obligated to respond to a member of one's family or to a friend.
What I did on my summer holidays
To be fair this is not what I did on my summer holidays, but "what I did for work this summer" isn't quite as catchy. In any event, what I did was read Tim Dare's wonderful new book, Counsel of Rogues? A Defence of the Standard Conception of the Lawyer's Role (publisher's link here) . Dare is ...
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