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(Maybe also add the link to the same-sex marriage reference guide mentioned at the very end of the program?)
Links Mentioned on the Show
The following are links that were either mentioned on this week's show or inspired by it, as posted live on the @STRtweets Twitter feed: Gosnell Trial – Video of Greg's radio commentary Gosnell Worker: Baby Surviving Abortion Struggled in Toilet Trying to Live Cold-Case Christianity: A Homi...
Wow, this week's show was excellent! (Even more than usual.)
Links Mentioned on the Show
The following are links that were either mentioned on this week's show or inspired by it, as posted live on the @STRtweets Twitter feed: Gosnell Trial – Video of Greg's radio commentary Gosnell Worker: Baby Surviving Abortion Struggled in Toilet Trying to Live Cold-Case Christianity: A Homi...
@ Shaughnessy McGillicuddy
See what I mean? What logical fallacy? Here you are, not only unwilling to engage with whatever ideas may be presented in the sermon, but completely dismissing even the idea of listening to it! Completely closed minded. Remarkable.
The rest of your comment I skimmed, as it looks to be only insults.
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The sad part is that I'm sure that even if I personally offered to pay the $2.50 for you, the response would be the same the response would be the same scoffing, mocking sort of thing.
Again, I wonder why people such as yourself - people who are completely closed-minded and unwilling to even look at any material or information offered to them bother to waste their time on a site like this one.
How Tim Keller Made Peace with the Wrath of God
“My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; yet not as I will, but as You will” (Matthew 26:39). In a sermon titled “The Dark Garden,” Tim Keller explains how he came to understand that a god without wrath and Hell is not as loving as the God we find in the Bible: Because [a cup o...
@ Matt McAlister -
Again, a complete refusal to address what I have said.
I love your previous comment...
"Ridiculous ideas should be ridiculed. Childish thought should be put away when one grows into an adult."
... while here you are the one engaging in netspeak.
They've been addressed, over and over. You have no interest in considering anything anyone says. Answer one point and you bring up another, without even acknowledging your first one was addressed.
I'd bet anything that if I went into detail about free will and how that relates to the way God has made things, you'd dismiss it.
Your continued insults and ignoring of what people have offered to you demonstrate to me you have little interest in productive discussion.
Perhaps it would be best for you to set up your own blog and rage there about the god you don't believe exists, as well as all those who follow that god. I can't see what that accomplishes, but that's really all you are doing here.
As for me, I won't waste my time or yours here any longer.
What Counts As Evidence?
You’ve probably heard at least one atheist say, “There’s no evidence for Christianity.” It may not be that they’ve never looked into the question and listened to our arguments. The problem may simply be that they’re illegitimately disqualifying circumstantial evidence from consideration. Jim exp...
The purpose of this post was to point to a sermon. Did any of the skeptics/objectors here bother to invest the $2.50 and short time commitment that it would take to listen to this sermon?
I'd be any amount of money the answer is a resounding "NO".
How Tim Keller Made Peace with the Wrath of God
“My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; yet not as I will, but as You will” (Matthew 26:39). In a sermon titled “The Dark Garden,” Tim Keller explains how he came to understand that a god without wrath and Hell is not as loving as the God we find in the Bible: Because [a cup o...
@ AJG -
Again, if this is your view, why are you wasting your time here?
This very site and ministry exist for the purpose of providing evidence for the claims of the Bible and answers to questions people may have.
You (and others) seem to have zero interest in investigating the material on this site. People on the blog have offered some answers to your questions and challenges.
None of this seems to make any difference. Your mind is already made up. You have set yourself up as the final authority, declaring "It's all a myth!" without offering how you came to this conclusion OR debunking the evidences for Christianity offered on this site.
You have zero interest in Christianity. So why are you here?
How Tim Keller Made Peace with the Wrath of God
“My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; yet not as I will, but as You will” (Matthew 26:39). In a sermon titled “The Dark Garden,” Tim Keller explains how he came to understand that a god without wrath and Hell is not as loving as the God we find in the Bible: Because [a cup o...
@ Matt McAlister -
Ok, I will revise my statement:
Quite a lot of emotion spent on people who follow a god you don't even think exists. Why would you care?
Now, anything to say on the rest of my comment? Or just more insults and raging? Here, I'll post it again:
"Oh, and I'll stop "disrespecting" Christianity the moment it becomes "respectable"."
Western Civilization has its foundation in the Judeo-Christian worldview. I'd say that's pretty respectable.
"Ridiculous ideas should be ridiculed. Childish thought should be put away when one grows into an adult."
"Darth - still wouldnt make me believe this god was any less of an *expletive* for allowing the things I mentioned and healing the ankle."
Yet you are the one acting like a child, offering little other than insults and rudeness and anger.
What Counts As Evidence?
You’ve probably heard at least one atheist say, “There’s no evidence for Christianity.” It may not be that they’ve never looked into the question and listened to our arguments. The problem may simply be that they’re illegitimately disqualifying circumstantial evidence from consideration. Jim exp...
@ Carolyn -
"I find it interesting that so many of those opposed to Christianity were once "devout" Christians."
I fail to see how one can be a "former Christian". After all, we cannot be unborn once we are born. The Bible says Christians are born again. I can't see how that can be undone.
In other words, these are people who perhaps once identified as Christians, but were never actually Christians in the first place, in the sense that the Bible describes it.
What Counts As Evidence?
You’ve probably heard at least one atheist say, “There’s no evidence for Christianity.” It may not be that they’ve never looked into the question and listened to our arguments. The problem may simply be that they’re illegitimately disqualifying circumstantial evidence from consideration. Jim exp...
@ Matt McAlister -
"Oh, and I'll stop "disrespecting" Christianity the moment it becomes "respectable"."
Western Civilization has its foundation in the Judeo-Christian worldview. I'd say that's pretty respectable.
"Ridiculous ideas should be ridiculed. Childish thought should be put away when one grows into an adult."
"Darth - still wouldnt make me believe this god was any less of an *expletive* for allowing the things I mentioned and healing the ankle."
Yet you are the one acting like a child, offering little other than insults and rudeness and anger.
Quite a lot of emotion spent on a god about which you hold the belief that he/she/it does not exist.
What Counts As Evidence?
You’ve probably heard at least one atheist say, “There’s no evidence for Christianity.” It may not be that they’ve never looked into the question and listened to our arguments. The problem may simply be that they’re illegitimately disqualifying circumstantial evidence from consideration. Jim exp...
Atheism is the belief that God/the supernatural does not exist, correct?
There is no basis for kindness in the worldview of Humanism. In fact, I can't see what the word "kindness" even means under this worldview.
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The rest is just mocking and it shows me you are simply a troll here.
Why people waste not only the time of others but their own time in doing such things is beyond me.
What Counts As Evidence?
You’ve probably heard at least one atheist say, “There’s no evidence for Christianity.” It may not be that they’ve never looked into the question and listened to our arguments. The problem may simply be that they’re illegitimately disqualifying circumstantial evidence from consideration. Jim exp...
@ Matt McAlister -
"I CANNOT "BEND THE KNEE" TO SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT EXIST."
So why are you here? No one is forcing you to read anything at this web site. No one is forcing you to become a Christian. And at least in America, the culture has become so secular that you only "have" to hear Christian-type words at Christmas and Easter.
So why do you rage so much against something that in your view does not exist?
"Why don't you bend the knee to Allah? You're just disbelieving Islam for emotional not intellectual, reasons."
Because I have read the Koran and about the life of Mohammad and I find no evidence for its claims. I also reject its teachings that tell me that unbelievers must convert, submit or die, and its oppressive sharia which brings misery everywhere in the world it is implemented.
These are not emotional reasons.
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"Every argument you can use vs the atheist can be used against you in regards to another religion. Your referenced statements are absurd, ridiculous and offensive."
That's false, since Christianity makes specific claims (and backs them up with evidence!) that other religions do not and cannot make.
Again, why are you here? Why rage so hard against something you think doesn't exist?
What Counts As Evidence?
You’ve probably heard at least one atheist say, “There’s no evidence for Christianity.” It may not be that they’ve never looked into the question and listened to our arguments. The problem may simply be that they’re illegitimately disqualifying circumstantial evidence from consideration. Jim exp...
@ John H - Oh, I know. No matter what evidence is presented, it's not good enough for them.
What Counts As Evidence?
You’ve probably heard at least one atheist say, “There’s no evidence for Christianity.” It may not be that they’ve never looked into the question and listened to our arguments. The problem may simply be that they’re illegitimately disqualifying circumstantial evidence from consideration. Jim exp...
(Proven by the many responses here!)
What Counts As Evidence?
You’ve probably heard at least one atheist say, “There’s no evidence for Christianity.” It may not be that they’ve never looked into the question and listened to our arguments. The problem may simply be that they’re illegitimately disqualifying circumstantial evidence from consideration. Jim exp...
I've never met an atheist yet who was willing to thoughtfully consider ANY evidence for the claims of Christ and the Bible! Anything I say is dismissed outright, without even an attempt at a fair-minded look at it.
What Counts As Evidence?
You’ve probably heard at least one atheist say, “There’s no evidence for Christianity.” It may not be that they’ve never looked into the question and listened to our arguments. The problem may simply be that they’re illegitimately disqualifying circumstantial evidence from consideration. Jim exp...
That sermons was incredible! (Because our Savior is incredible!)
I encourage everyone to buy/listen to it, especially the mockers here.
How Tim Keller Made Peace with the Wrath of God
“My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; yet not as I will, but as You will” (Matthew 26:39). In a sermon titled “The Dark Garden,” Tim Keller explains how he came to understand that a god without wrath and Hell is not as loving as the God we find in the Bible: Because [a cup o...
@ AJG -
"It doesn't matter what I think about hell."
Well then, why are you posting here about it?
How Tim Keller Made Peace with the Wrath of God
“My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; yet not as I will, but as You will” (Matthew 26:39). In a sermon titled “The Dark Garden,” Tim Keller explains how he came to understand that a god without wrath and Hell is not as loving as the God we find in the Bible: Because [a cup o...
@ AJG -
"Yes, because a God that would send objects of His creation - who were born into a sinful state through no fault of their own - to a place of eternal torment is more loving than a God who wouldn't."
God doesn't send anyone to hell. Crimes deserve punishment, do they not?
No fault of their own? So you are claiming you have never sinned? Not once in your entire life? Wow!
"The mind boggles at how people can talk themselves into accepting that which is clearly the opposite of reality."
And you know this how, exactly?
"Big deal."
That's as far as I read of your comment. THAT is the thanks the God of the universe receives for His sacrifice.
Horrifying, but not surprising. We've all behaved that way at one time or another.
His love is indeed amazing.
How Tim Keller Made Peace with the Wrath of God
“My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; yet not as I will, but as You will” (Matthew 26:39). In a sermon titled “The Dark Garden,” Tim Keller explains how he came to understand that a god without wrath and Hell is not as loving as the God we find in the Bible: Because [a cup o...
I'd like to know why they are so closed-minded and intolerant that they're not only demanding that their interpretation should be the only one heeded, but that they also are wanting to silence anyone who has a different interpretation.
I'd probably try to find a more gentle way of saying it, but that's really the bottom line here.
Challenge: It's Just Your Interpretation that Jesus Is the Only Way
From an article on the Huffington Post titled “6 Things Christians Should Just Stop Saying”: 3. Jesus is the only way to heaven. What you are really saying is, "The way we interpret John 14:6 is that Jesus was clearly drawing a line in the sand and telling his hearers and the world: 'If you do ...
@ Mike -
"If I am an atheist and lack the belief that you have in your God, what claim am I making?"
The claim of atheists is that God does not exist.
Why this is so complicated for so many people to understand, I will never know.
Embracing the Absurd
About a year ago, the Journal of Medical Ethics published an article arguing that “what we call ‘after-birth abortion’ (killing a newborn) should be permissible in all the cases where abortion is, including cases where the newborn is not disabled.” Instead of reasoning, “A) It’s wrong to kill a ...
It's strange to me that people actually use this approach when it comes to religion. Why would (only) sincerity work in this situation, when it doesn't work in any other? (As you described in your example about doctors and healing.)
You might think and be sincerely convinced you're driving in the right direction to get to your destination. But when you check your map, you realize you were wrong and have to correct your course in order to get to where you wanted to go.
Sincerity is irrelevant if your facts are mistaken.
Again, it's hard for me to understand why people use this approach when it comes to religion. As you also said, we don't approach any other area of life in this manner.
Why Isn't Sincerity Enough? (Video)
Why isn't sincerity enough?
@ AJG -
"Epistemic paradox aside, uncertainty is a fundamental property of the universe and you are a product of the universe."
Why should it be put aside? You say no one can know anything with certainty. You say and claim you know this with certainty. Now you tell me just to ignore this glaring problem?
"I am as certain of this statement as I can be certain of anything."
See? Now you're back to being certain. Pick a view and stick to it!
"Then you do not understand atheism."
I sure do. An atheist's claim is that God does not exist. Why not call yourself agnostic, then, if you're not sure?
"Any honest atheist will say he would change his mind should God meet the burden of proof required to accept his existence. We're still waiting, though."
There are plenty of evidences that make for a strong case for the claims of Christ and the Bible. If you'd read through this site or listened to any of Greg's broadcast, you'd have heard plenty of them.
"Name one."
Why? So you can ignore it and ask for another, then ignore that and ask for another and so on?
In an earlier comment on this thread you said:
"I'm a former evangelical who knows all the arguments for God."
So you know the arguments and evidences, but have chosen to reject them.
What I won't do is play games with someone who will just ignore everything I say, because their mind is already made up that God does not exist, no matter what anyone says or what evidences are offered. You've pretty much stated that's what you will do if I offer some evidence.
If you are sincerely seeking, then again, this site has tons of information. I wish you well.
Not Neutral
The assaults on religion in the public square – from crosses on public land to nativity scenes – are motivated from the premise that atheism is the truly neutral position. Atheists these days claim that they lack belief, not that they have a positive belief. Society should be neutral, so our p...
@ AJG -
"As I stated, no one knows anything with absolute certainty."
And yet you state this and seem to know it with absolute certainty.
"I consider myself an atheist but I do not "know" that God does not exist."
Then you're not an atheist in the sense that I understand the meaning of that word. An atheist is someone who claims they know God does not exist.
"The likelihood of a God is extremely minute given that the evidence of such a being is non-existant."
Nonsense. This site (as well as so many others!) is chock full of evidences for God's existence, and thoughtful discussion of those evidences.
Not Neutral
The assaults on religion in the public square – from crosses on public land to nativity scenes – are motivated from the premise that atheism is the truly neutral position. Atheists these days claim that they lack belief, not that they have a positive belief. Society should be neutral, so our p...
Thank you for this.
He'll Do Something He Would Not Have Done
A month after reading this in a post by Steve Fuller at the Desiring God Blog, I can say that it has tremendously reinvigorated my prayer life: One reason we don’t pray is because we believe Satan’s lie that prayer does nothing. But that’s not what Jesus taught (Matthew 7:7). Jesus promises tha...
@ brgulker -
I'm not getting your comparison. The disciples didn't mock miracles and then demand one from Jesus before they would believe in him.
Why is the Bible more reliable than the Koran? (Video)
Why is the Bible more reliable than the Koran?
My heart goes out to this person. It's easy to get into this spot, and difficult to get out of it. (Especially when you're having healthy issues like he was having.)
There is wise counsel.
Apologetics Aren't Enough to Connect You with a Person
This morning I was thinking about someone who left a comment on our blog last year. After immersing himself in apologetics, “Searching” had found himself struggling with his faith. Since I first read his comment, I’ve heard virtually the same story at least twice more, so I suspect that talking...
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