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Lol...of course they gave him more $$$, probably got some more coin for his coaches too. The the mending of fences begin.
Toggle Commented Jan 5, 2014 on Rumors, Lies And Speculation at Canespace
I know that cgnc. I also believe Saban through his agent were in contact with TX. Hell, I'm sure Saban had an inperson meeting with TX. Doesn't change anything. Saban let the TX talk go in for a week and did not disavow them until after the boosters ponied up more $$$. Golden's process is playing out in a shorter timeline. I still think he stays but will not be surprised in the least if he bolts. Either way the U will be alright because the program is still in ascending mode.
Toggle Commented Jan 5, 2014 on Rumors, Lies And Speculation at Canespace
At this point whatever happens happens and I'm good either way.
Toggle Commented Jan 5, 2014 on Rumors, Lies And Speculation at Canespace
If you are right miamicane then let's hire our new coach by Wednesday and it is all good. Hopefully it will be Butch.
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Sota...who cares whether Saban had better coaches to take his job or what the fan base thinks. What's that got to do with the price of tea in China? If Saban wanted to be at UT right now he would have and he took the time he wanted to to get what he wanted. The fact that there may be better coaches bodes well for us if Golden bolts. My guess is we will know Monday and if Golden stays he will have a month to mend bridges and secure this good recruiting class. If he bolts and we hire a Butch or Chud we secure this recruiting class.
Toggle Commented Jan 5, 2014 on Rumors, Lies And Speculation at Canespace
Sorry for your loss VA Cane.
Toggle Commented Jan 5, 2014 on Rumors, Lies And Speculation at Canespace
Many of you talking about Al waiting so long (two days as of today) are blowing this way outta proportion. If Golden comes back (I agree with Soup and still thinks he will) he will have more than enough time to mend the appropriate fences and talk waivering recruits off the ledge and keep (possibly enhance this class). In all honesty Penn St is the one school that we all were aware Al could bolt to. If he stays the likelihood us he will be at the U for a long time if successful. If he bolts then I thank him for getting the program back in track and move on. The fact is if he leaves this is the perfect timing for him to bolt. The program is still in ascending mode and is ripe for a coach like Butch to take the reins and build on what Golden has done. I have no problem with Golden looking at this point. It's only been 2 days. Hell, Saban to TX went on for a week and did not end until the boosters ponied up more $$$. As long as the administration pays the $$$ for a Butch or Chud if Golden bolts we will be fine. He he bolts and the don't pony up the $$$ then blame administration, not Golden because this is ultimately a business and given the NCAA stuff and hearing Penn St's coaches name as a hot commodity in NFL circles (been hearing this for the past month), they should've been prepared for Penn St contacting Golden.
Toggle Commented Jan 5, 2014 on Rumors, Lies And Speculation at Canespace
Raizecane...that's the primary reason I am leaning towards him staying.
Toggle Commented Jan 4, 2014 on Rumors, Lies And Speculation at Canespace
ONFC...what you are seeing on defense is a product of poor scheme and read and react defensive philosophy. Because of that OC are scheming the defensive players out of position. That's why DB's are consistently 5 yards away from receivers when they catch the ball. The players are frequently caught with too much space when trying to bring down a WR or RB. As sorry as V-Tech's QB and offense was their OC outschemed D No resulting in THAT offense putting up 500 plus yards. We gave up 500 plus yards our last 6 games. Even when we were worse on defense with less talent during the Shannon era our defense never came close to doing what our defense did this year. Clemson plays an attacking style of defense. We do not. Btw...FSU had the most talent in the ACC followed by Clemson. Imo we have the 3rd best talent closely followed by North Carolina and V-Tech. But we look slower and less athletic because we are coached on defense to play slow and read and react. Play more aggressively (and with a new scheme) and you will see us play closer to Clemson.
Toggle Commented Jan 4, 2014 on Rumors, Lies And Speculation at Canespace
Clwtrdan...in spite of the NCAA cloud Golden recruited very well. We have good talent. Not NC talent, but winning the Coastal and playing for (not winning) the ACC championship. That was there last year. We underachieved. QB play and injuries primarily limited us on offense. Coaching (defensive scheme and philosophy) primarily limited us on defense. Next year we will have many of the same players returning and again have win the Coastal and compete for an ACC championship talent. Coaching on defense and improved QB play on offense will primarily determine whether we reach our potential or under achieve. Talent will not be the reason for not playing for an ACC title.
Toggle Commented Jan 4, 2014 on Rumors, Lies And Speculation at Canespace
With that said if he does stay, which I think he will, he has some work to do. First, needs to at the very least play his defense more aggressively even if the keep the 3-4 scheme. Louisville showed how an aggressive 3-4 scheme can be played (BTW they don't necessarily have the players to run it great, but it fits more their personnel). Second, needs to repair relationships with their upperclassmen defensive players that they have thrown under the bus. I think better QB play is the primary thing that will improve things in offense. I think they will get better QB play next year. Won't be great, but will be above average to good. That right there will improve the offense.
Toggle Commented Jan 4, 2014 on Rumors, Lies And Speculation at Canespace
I guess I fit more the 25% who is ambivalent, but I can honestly say I hope he stays because I think he has what it takes to get the U back to prominence. He was done alot for the program the last 3 years. He has recruited well as we actually do have good (not great) talent (on defense poorly and underused talent). He has gotten our players bigger, faster, stronger, and better conditioned. He repaired relationships with high school coaches. He created a template for running high school camps. The program is much better now than it was 3 years ago. While I personally don't believe he is taking the Penn St job, if he does I will be disappointed but also grateful for what he has done at the U. And because he has got the program in a good state overall, if he leaves the next coach will have a lot of good ingredients in the cupboard. If we get a good coach (and I think we will) Golden leaving will only set the program back one year. With improved QB play and a better defensive scheme and philosophy we could play for the Coastal and the ACC championship. Talent wise we are not that far off as some would like to paint. If Golden was to leave (Not what I want) this would be the best time for the transition to take place as we are still going in an upward trajectory. The next coach can ride the momentum (and there is momentum).
Toggle Commented Jan 4, 2014 on Rumors, Lies And Speculation at Canespace
I'm actually leaning to the belief that Golden stays and after listening to Penn St's pitch will eventually end up using this to leverage more $ for himself and his assistants. If this is the case can't knock the hustle. If he leaves for HIS Dream Job and gets a lot more $ and he and his wife are comfortable with this I'm fine with it. If Golden does indeed bolt he will have left me next coach in good shape as he has recruited very well (we have good but not great talent), the players are bigger, faster, stronger, and better conditioned, and he has repaired relationships with high school coaches. He's also laid out the template for how to run football camps for the next coach, which helped with recruiting. So if Golden leaves I will be disappointed but grateful for all he did at the U. Will post the next part very shortly.
Toggle Commented Jan 4, 2014 on The Hurricane Club Needs U at Canespace
Nigeriancane...you have obviously never been recruited on any level, either with sports or in business. When a big name job comes seeking you out for an interview, even if you will likely not take it you hear them out. Even if it is a courtesy. You don't do that for a slapd*ck job, but for a big name job you grant the interview. Nothing wrong with seeing your options and staying put (exception is your marriage lol). I'm not mad at Golden for listening. Not even mad if he leaves.
Toggle Commented Jan 3, 2014 on The Hurricane Club Needs U at Canespace
Agree with you 100% The Dude. I never liked the Randy Shannon hire. I know he had good defenses, but he was not a creative DC. He just had better players IMO. I never thought he was head coach material and ultimately and unfortunately I was proven right. I hoped to be wrong and ad an African American I wad rooting for him, but he never had the tools to be a HC. His ceiling is DC and there is no shame in that.
Toggle Commented Jan 3, 2014 on The Hurricane Club Needs U at Canespace
When Golden took over the talent was pretty scarce. If he leaves the cupboard has a lot of good ingredients. If he leaves I will be sad to see him go because I believe he can bring us back to prominence. But if he leaves I also know he has left the next HC with very good pieces to build with and for that I will be grateful to him. If Golden is going to leave this is actually the best time for the U's program for him to do it. We are still on the rise and Golden will have left us in position to keep going up.
Toggle Commented Jan 3, 2014 on The Hurricane Club Needs U at Canespace
If Golden leaves for Penn St it will hurt with this years recruiting class. No question about that. Not even debatable. With that said if we bring in a Butch or Schiano or the MSU DC or someone of that caliber they will find that the cupboard is far from bare. Golden recruited very good players. Some who should have seen more PT on defense, some who were not used properly due to the poor defensive scheme. If Golden leaves and Kayya decommits we will need to address QB in next years class. But one of our current QB's may surprise us. If Golden leaves it will no doubt be a setback, but because of all the positives he has brought to program we can recover from his departure in one year.
Toggle Commented Jan 3, 2014 on The Hurricane Club Needs U at Canespace
So now the negatives...Keep in mind that I like Golden and want him here and believes he can succeed. 1. If Golden does not take responsibility for the lack of coaching that has been present by him and his staff then we will stay in mediocrity and he will be let go. I must say, to hear a recruit say they will play their scheme "more aggressive" when they "get better players" pissed me off. As a former college football player, if I'm a member of that UM defense and I know my DC is getting butt doonked week in and week out because of is poor defensive philosophy and scheme and I see the coach taking no responsibility, I would not play hard for that guy. I would fold on him because I would no longer respect him. That quote by Bethell is going to hurt because guess what, no matter how good this class is on defense you are still going to need those "unatheletic upperclassmen" to play being minutes. I guarantee you that most of the defensive players we bring in next year will barely see the field next year because this 3-4 read and react scheme makes it difficult for a freshman in the front 7 to come in and start. 2. The poor defense has been discussed ad nausea so I won't go to far into it. With that said, the defensive talent while not great, it is much better than what it displayed towards the back end of the year. It had nothing to do with players being fatigued or the talent that we had on defense...it had to do with scheme and defensive philosophy. The sooner people like GoCanes get understand this the faster we can help put pressure on the powers that be to make the changes that need to be made. That's all I'm going to say about that. 3. The offense was a problem as well but I am giving Golden and Coley a pass not because I don't think they could have done a better job, but Stephen Morris was so limited that I think they game planned very conservatively the last 6 games to make up for his deficiencies. The defense actually played better in the first 1 1/2 quarters in the bowl game and it was the offense that was more the issue against Louisville. However, when your players don't believe you have their back and you don't take responsibility for anything that goes wrong, when things get tough they don't play hard for you. That's what happened to D'No in the bowl game. That and the fact that they had no faith that he could find a way to counteract what Louisville was doing. Golden and D'No are going to have to mend some fences in that locker room. 4. This biggest problem right now is the defense. The scheme, the philosophy, and the players relationship with their coaches on that side of the ball. This has to get fixed. Since D'No will not be let go they are going to have to change their scheme. If that don't it will be more of the same next year and the year after that and the year after that and the year after that. To me this a a balanced look at Al Golden and the state of the U. I give credit where credit is due and I criticize where criticism needs to occur. I want the U back in a prominent role in college football and I am not going to blindly overlook glaring areas that need to be resolved.
Toggle Commented Jan 3, 2014 on The Hurricane Club Needs U at Canespace
Where do I begin...Let's start with the positives. 1. I like Al Golden and still think he has the potential to bring the U back to prominence. I do not want him to leave the U right now and go to Penn St. The biggest reason is he is bringing in a very good recruiting class and I want him to stay so this class can be in place. Even if he eventually leaves or let go in another year or two we will have more talent in the pool for the next coach (although I think we have enough talent now to perform way better than we did this year but I will get to that). 2. He identified the lack of strength and conditioning as the major barrier the players had when he took over. The fact of the matter is the U Tough program has worked. The players are bigger, stronger, and faster (although they don't play to the level of their speed, but I will get to that later) and you can't deny this. 3. He has all the qualities that you want see in a head coach with respect to the CEO aspect of being a head coach. He is disciplined, a good-to-great communicator, and he is very organized. Gotta like that. 4. Despite what some are saying about Golden's recruiting, he has brought in some very good talented players. We are more talented now than when he took over (As you can see I'm not buying the no talent or decreased talent argument). While the talent has not been NC caliber, it has been good enough to win the Coastal, compete for an ACC Championship, and put themselves in position to compete for a BCS appearance (again not play in one, but compete for one). In actuality, recruiting is a strength for Golden and those arguing that his recruiting classes have been bad when looking at attrition are delusional. It is still better than Duke's, UCF's Louisville, and the very least on par with V-Tech and North Carolina even with the attrition of players. So recruiting is a strength so for all the Golden supporters (like myself), I am giving Golden kudos in the area or recruiting. Soup's entry just supported this.
Toggle Commented Jan 3, 2014 on The Hurricane Club Needs U at Canespace
Where do I begin...Let's start with the positives. 1. I like Al Golden and still think he has the potential to bring the U back to prominence. I do not want him to leave the U right now and go to Penn St. The biggest reason is he is bringing in a very good recruiting class and I want him to stay so this class can be in place. Even if he eventually leaves or let go in another year or two we will have more talent in the pool for the next coach (although I think we have enough talent now to perform way better than we did this year but I will get to that). 2. He identified the lack of strength and conditioning as the major barrier the players had when he took over. The fact of the matter is the U Tough program has worked. The players are bigger, stronger, and faster (although they don't play to the level of their speed, but I will get to that later) and you can't deny this. 3. He has all the qualities that you want see in a head coach with respect to the CEO aspect of being a head coach. He is disciplined, a good-to-great communicator, and he is very organized. Gotta like that. 4. Despite what some are saying about Golden's recruiting, he has brought in some very good talented players. We are more talented now than when he took over (As you can see I'm not buying the no talent or decreased talent argument). While the talent has not been NC caliber, it has been good enough to win the Coastal, compete for an ACC Championship, and put themselves in position to compete for a BCS appearance (again not play in one, but compete for one). In actuality, recruiting is a strength for Golden and those arguing that his recruiting classes have been bad when looking at attrition are delusional. It is still better than Duke's, UCF's Louisville, and the very least on par with V-Tech and North Carolina even with the attrition of players. So recruiting is a strength so for all the Golden supporters (like myself), I am giving Golden kudos in the area or recruiting. Soup's entry just supported this. So now the negatives...Keep in mind that I like Golden and want him here and believes he can succeed. 1. If Golden does not take responsibility for the lack of coaching that has been present by him and his staff then we will stay in mediocrity and he will be let go. I must say, to hear a recruit say they will play their scheme "more aggressive" when they "get better players" pissed me off. As a former college football player, if I'm a member of that UM defense and I know my DC is getting butt doonked week in and week out because of is poor defensive philosophy and scheme and I see the coach taking no responsibility, I would not play hard for that guy. I would fold on him because I would no longer respect him. That quote by Bethell is going to hurt because guess what, no matter how good this class is on defense you are still going to need those "unatheletic upperclassmen" to play being minutes. I guarantee you that most of the defensive players we bring in next year will barely see the field next year because this 3-4 read and react scheme makes it difficult for a freshman in the front 7 to come in and start. 2. The poor defense has been discussed ad nausea so I won't go to far into it. With that said, the defensive talent while not great, it is much better than what it displayed towards the back end of the year. It had nothing to do with players being fatigued or the talent that we had on defense...it had to do with scheme and defensive philosophy. The sooner people like GoCanes get understand this the faster we can help put pressure on the powers that be to make the changes that need to be made. That's all I'm going to say about that. 3. The offense was a problem as well but I am giving Golden and Coley a pass not because I don't think they could have done a better job, but Stephen Morris was so limited that I think they game planned very conservatively the last 6 games to make up for his deficiencies. The defense actually played better in the first 1 1/2 quarters in the bowl game and it was the offense that was more the issue against Louisville. However, when your players don't believe you have their back and you don't take responsibility for anything that goes wrong, when things get tough they don't play hard for you. That's what happened to D'No in the bowl game. That and the fact that they had no faith that he could find a way to counteract what Louisville was doing. Golden and D'No are going to have to mend some fences in that locker room. 4. This biggest problem right now is the defense. The scheme, the philosophy, and the players relationship with their coaches on that side of the ball. This has to get fixed. Since D'No will not be let go they are going to have to change their scheme. If that don't it will be more of the same next year and the year after that and the year after that and the year after that. To me this a a balanced look at Al Golden and the state of the U. I give credit where credit is due and I criticize where criticism needs to occur. I want the U back in a prominent role in college football and I am not going to blindly overlook glaring areas that need to be resolved.
Toggle Commented Jan 3, 2014 on Knights Are Golden at Canespace
Soup...hang in there brotha. I know how bad you must feel. Doesn't hurt as much for me because while I was rooting for my Canes to win, I knew this outcome was a strong possibility. Didn't think the offense would struggle like this, but not totally surprised given Stephen Morris's limitations and lack of football IQ. We need changes and they need to come from Golden. First thing he has to do is change the defensive scheme and philosophy. If that doesn't happen expect the same results on defense next year. Offense may improve under Coley. D won't improve with D'No running Golden's defense.
Toggle Commented Dec 30, 2013 on Feeling Peppy at Canespace
My observations.. 1. D'No made only one adjustment on defense. He brought the corners and safeties up. That's why the defense looked fairly well for the first 1 2/3 quarters. Problem is it was the only adjustment. No disguising of coverages. Teddy picked us apart. 2. If the offense plays a better game the defense way have looked better. 3. Coley gets a pass from me. I truly saw just how limited and low football IQ Stephen Morris has. With that said it was still a poor offensive game plan. 4. For people who are putting most of the blame on the players...when you get blown out in a bowl game where you have a month to prepare is a coaching problem more than a player problem. 5. Golden needs to do some serious soul searching. He needs to implement a different scheme on defense. They need to change their run blocking philosophy. 6. Unfortunately we are going to lose some recruits over this...some who will decommit and some who will boot us out of their top 2 or 3.
Toggle Commented Dec 29, 2013 on Feeling Peppy at Canespace
Just gotta comment on Manny's scout sources talking about D'No having a sound scheme but lacking talent. Saying he's running the Pittsburgh Steelers defensive scheme. 1. We don't have the personnel to run the 3-4 effectively so that is nothing new. We do however have the personnel to be average to above average in running a 4-3 defense. That is what is missing. 2. I don't give a sh*t what those scouts told Manny...D'No is not running the Steelers attacking version of the 3-4 defense. Not even close. I will not let that misinformation slide. Sorry Ohio...not gonna happen. Again, the argument isn't whether we have the talent to run Golden and D'No's defense. We know we don't. The question is whether we have the talent to run another system on defense (4-3). The answer is we do.
Toggle Commented Dec 27, 2013 on Hurricanes Go Bowling at Canespace
I've always contended that this program is going in the right direction and that Golden has the potential to lead us back to the promised land as I think he had all the qualities necessary to be a great head coach. My position has been that him being inflexible with his defensive philosophy of read and react passivity in conjunction with the 3-4 scheme he is trying to implement will likely prevent Golden from reaching the heights he can achieve. While the talent on defense is not elite, we have enough now to be much better than what we've shown. That's all I will say about that as I will try and focus on the positive until the bowl game (and hopefully after that). I never root for my team to lose or get demolished for the satisfaction of being right.
Toggle Commented Dec 14, 2013 on By The Numbers: Focus On The Positive at Canespace
Soup...Is Golden keeping his D'Onafrio in place as of today? If so, if D'Onafrio gets his a$$ handed to him in the bowl game will letting D'Onafrio go be re-considered?