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Sandra Pennington
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I totally agree with your statement about Monet! About the other thing.... Only because adults suddenly have the feeling to release the inner child why does it has another importance. I mean no matter how you turn it what comes out of it is nothing I would call art. For me this is not creativity. Nothing with "art" as high form of culture. I mean think back to Van Gogh. If he could see the modernist art today he would shake his head. Another thing is that no matter how much you try at a certain age you can never think like a child again and trying to copy their view of the world is therefore not a valid representation not a nice attempt. The last question is interesting.... We live in a society in which quantity and the money you can make out of it is the most important factor. I think art has lost its meaning since capitalism got so bad and strict. I have a friend who is an amazing painter. My mum bought 2 paintings off her and they both have this "Let me stare at you" effect. They are (in my opinion) very abstract in the way what they portray as well as in how they are drawn but they are simply memorizing. Now she has done altogether maybe 50 paintings because she only pains when she feels like it and when she has the feeling she can express something. So far no gallerie wanted to take her as they said it is great work but she doesn't have enough paintings. It shouldn't be about the amount that matters but the "ah" effect. So I think it used to do that but nowadays it is mostly the quantity that counts. On the other hand would people really be able to appreciate quality? I mean every kid now grows up in a world of quantity. They can have everything and how much they want as long as the price is correct. Now having those ideas from the very beginning wouldn't they automatically transfer that to art as well? Over the last couple of centuries art was always an area in culture that stood apart from the government form (at least to some extend). But I personally have the feeling that art more and more SERVES the purpose of the existing government form. I mean look at commercials and even normal films. Nowadays films all play within the social boundaries and Hollywood is only about quantity and not really about quality. Can't remember the last Hollywood film where I was surprised that I couldn't tell the end of the story in the first few minutes of the film. In Europe it is still a little different but I can see it changing to American standards as well. The question simply is whether art is savable or wether it will loose it's importance fully within the next couple of years.
Toggle Commented May 16, 2010 on Where's the EXIT? at Lidia's blog
You talk about questions in art that I couldn't answer for quite some years now. I myself wonder about the definition art takes today. The increase of "social freedom" leads to everyone trying to find a way to express him-/ herself in ways that I personally would not call art anymore. Take for example the last canvas you put up: "The Snail" I think it was: What does make it art. Is it art because someone took a brush and created something (which would make small kids to artists as well) or is it art because this person is already established as artist in the scene - which makes people think about.... "what does he try to say here"? With modernist artists like Rothko or others I do not feel provoked at all as I personally have the feeling: I can do that myself. When I was 3 I coloured a canvas in yellow and made two black dots on it. What makes his work so famous whereas my drawing got marked badly at this time? For me it is not so much the provoking bit that intrigues me about art it is the message behind it. Now I know everyone understands and sees different things in an image/ photo/ painting but art is by definition a form of expression shared by everyone. How can something be called art that gives people a headache in order to understand? Now I know I am not very clear myself about this idea of art because there ARE artists that work indeed with headaches and the audiences reaction in order to bring across a message. If that is intended and ACTUALLY brings the effect in the end (like for example with Samuel Beckett) then it is great and I fully appreciate this piece as art. But "The Snail" simply reminds me of our abstract cinema films we watched at the end of las term where I did not see anything else but screen savers. This is where I totally agree with your questions, Lydia: Isn't it too easy to create a 'fshh-vjjj-fshh' on an enormous piece of canvas? Is art still a high form of creation? Does the unconscious chaos win over the genuine talent? For how long will the freedom of interpretation be able to train our ability to understand things? I cannot answer it though. Every now and then you see a painting that makes you shiver or that achieves some sort effect (even though it might be so simple and abstract) which I then appreciate as art. But in 9 out of 10 exhibitions I go to I have to look for the art and often can't find it, whereas in Van Gogh's, Klee's and Claude Monet's work (for example) I can look at the paintings for hours and still have the feeling I havent seen all. I furthermore totally agree on the idea of repetition. In abstract art like Rothko I have the feeling I just need to see one exhibition to have a feeling for all the others of its kind. (http://collectorofechoes.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/mark-rothko-no-14-1960-7893.jpg) I think this has to do with artists seeing that (for example) Rothko earns millions and millions with his paintings and they say: hey that is what people want so let's give them that. However how many ways are there to colour a canvas and add two black dots? This style can be intriguing when it is a start to something new but I have rather the feeling that we got stuck in something that should have been a transition to something else. In the else that leads to a lack of depth in the paintings and a lack of meaning which I personally would describe as the main factors of the definition of art. So yeah.... Where do we go from here?
Toggle Commented May 15, 2010 on Where's the EXIT? at Lidia's blog
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