My fiance also feels like he has a lot of trouble with math, mostly because his teachers couldn't help him wrap his brain around it in a way that mattered. He hated the class. But then one day his gaming hobby took over and he was able to floor his teacher. They were doing vector geometry and plotting locations in a 3D space along the X/Y/Z axis. She called Mike to the board and asked him to solve the problem...and he did. He was able to instantly and accurately pinpoint the location of the dot. When the teacher asked him to prove his math, he couldn't do that however. She asked how he got it, and he simply answered "I have to do this when we're playing Traveler and trying to figure out what quadrant the ship is in. Its from the gaming I do." Then he sat back down. *grin*