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@LROB … While there are players who have learned to become good set shot shooters later in their career like Magic and Kidd, most players either are or are not shooters. Anyone can become a better shooter with practice but it’s rare for any player to become a pure shooter later in his career. I think you can tell just looking at their form and shot that Drew is a better pure shooter than Drew. That’s not saying he is a better defender or rebounder or player, just that he has a shot whereas Dwight has to develop one, which he may do but chances are slim he will ever be Karl Malone from midrange. … One of the ways you can easily identify who is and is not a pure shooter in my opinion is how they shoot free throws. Pure shooters are the guys like Dirk, Terry, Kobe, Sasha, Korver, Reddick. One thing they all have in common is that when the pressure is greatest and the defense toughest, they can just flat out beat the defense and shoot the shot pure. That impeccable muscle memory that every great pure shooter has just takes over in those clutch moments. That’s why it’s hard for the super athletes who are not natural shooters like LeBron, Rondo, Dwight, Westbrook, et al usually never become consistent closers. They’re more muscle cars that lack the precision of the pure shooter. ………………………………………… LAKER TOM
Toggle Commented Jun 16, 2011 on Free agent profile: J.R. Smith at Lakers Now
@POINT FORWARD… You made some excellent points. The good thing about these kinds of debates is that we’ll get to find out who’s right. Bottom line, the Lakers will end up with 1 of the 2 best centers in the league whatever happens. Right now, center is the least of our problems. ………………………………………… LAKER TOM
Toggle Commented Jun 16, 2011 on Free agent profile: J.R. Smith at Lakers Now
Since most of the fans on this blog have already traded Andrew Bynum for Dwight Howard, they might want to consider whether Dwight would really want to play for the Lakers. Based on recent developments, it does not appear that the Lakers are even among Dwight’s top three picks. … Howard’s people recently released a list of favored locations which had the Lakers the #4 favored team on his list. Then there were the comments Dwight made about wanting to attract players to join him rather than leaving Orlando to join another player’s team. He wants to keep his options open. … I think Dwight wants to be Wade rather than LeBron. I think he wants to be Batman not Robin. If he goes to New York, he is Batman and Amare becomes Robin. If he comes to the Lakers, he would be Robin to Kobe’s batman. I don’t think that’s a direction Dwight Howard wants to take. … Nobody’s talked about how the basketball world has reacted to the Miami Heat and how that may well change what future athletes decide to do. I think the last thing Dwight wants to do is find himself in a situation like LeBron and Miami have found themselves. That would wipe the grin off his face. … I don’t think we’re going to see a flood of teams trying to load up on superstars like Miami. I think teams are going to be careful not to do anything that could lead to them being compared to Miami. Most teams understand that no matter whom you add, the pieces have to fit, which Miami ignored in signing Wade and LeBron, who both essentially have the same games and need to have the ball. ………………………………………… LAKER TOM
Toggle Commented Jun 16, 2011 on Free agent profile: J.R. Smith at Lakers Now
@TECH N9NE ... Unless the owners and player know something we don’t, you’re right that none of the trades for the Big 3 or Nash will happen until after we have a new CBA and everyone knows what the landscape looks like. I do think Nash might sign for the MLE just to get a ring next year but he might be joined by a lot of amnesty players who were cut. I wouldn’t give any of our Big 4 for Steve at this point but assuming his back is OK, he would be great for the Lakers. Imagine him setting up Kobe, Drew, Pau, and Lamar for easy baskets. I would love to see that happen. Nash can still ball. ... The NFL should actually settle their dispute early next month well before the start of training camp late in July. I also think the NFL settling will put pressure on the NBA owners and players to settle. Only fools would kill the golden goose after the best playoff TV ratings in the last 10 years. So I think there will be a long lock out or missed games. No asterisk championship this time. Just Lakers #17. .................................. LAKER TOM
Toggle Commented Jun 16, 2011 on Free agent profile: J.R. Smith at Lakers Now
@TECH N9NE ... Unless the owners and player know something we don’t, you’re right that none of the trades for the Big 3 or Nash will happen until after we have a new CBA and everyone knows what the landscape looks like. I do think Nash might sign for the MLE just to get a ring next year but he might be joined by a lot of amnesty players who were cut. I wouldn’t give any of our Big 4 for Steve at this point but assuming his back is OK, he would be great for the Lakers. Imagine him setting up Kobe, Drew, Pau, and Lamar for easy baskets. I would love to see that happen. Nash can still ball. ... The NFL should actually settle their dispute early next month well before the start of training camp late in July. I also think the NFL settling will put pressure on the NBA owners and players to settle. Only fools would kill the golden goose after the best playoff TV ratings in the last 10 years. So I think there will be a long lock out or missed games. No asterisk championship this time. Just Lakers #17. .................................. LAKER TOM
@TECH N9NE ... Dwight Howard, Chris Paul, and Deron Williams contracts all have two years to go but with the second year a player option which they all will likely exercise unless there is something in the new CBA that dramatically reduces the amount they could get in free agency. For example, it the league made sign and trades difficult to do so that players would re-sign with their own teams, then they might decide to exercise their player option. The other key factor is will there be a lower salary cap or a hard cap that would force teams to cut players to pay huge penalties. Finally, if there is a amnesty clause as expected, there could be a lot of players cut who would still get their big salary but could sign with another club for the minimum. That’s what Miami is praying will happen. .................................. LAKER TOM
@TECH N9NE ... Steve Nash’s contract expires at the end of the 2011/12 season so it doesn’t make any sense for the Suns to trade him to the Lakers for a bunch of players with longer contracts. The Suns will be under the cap this summer by getting rid of Carter’s expiring contract. I would take Steve in a flash for anybody on our bench but Lamar but it looks like it could never happen. .................................. LAKER TOM
@POINT FORWARD .... No problem to disagree but before anybody can sign off on any trade, you need to know what the deal is. No way would I give up Drew and Lamar for Dwight and anybody on the Magic. What I do find very ironic is all the Heat haters who are ready and willing to line up and trade everybody on the team in order to replicate the Heat with Kobe, Dwight, and CP3. Like Mitch Kupchak reminded us, it’s all about how the different pieces fit. The NBA is not a fantasy league. I think the Dallas Mavericks had worlds to say about the right way to build a championship team. .................................. LAKER TOM
@MM ... Can’t disagree with your points, Mark. Bottom line, I’m a Lakers fan first and foremost. If the front office decided to trade Drew for Dwight, they wouldn’t find me saying “no comment.” LOL. As to whether or not the trade will happen, it will all depend on the situation then and what various teams are offering for Dwight. To trade Drew and Lamar both for Dwight when we desperately need help at the 1 and 3 positions would be very short-sighted on my part. Same with taking back Arenas or a similar contract. That’s why all of this talk is meaningless right now. Nothing will happen until the season starts and we find out how the changes the Magic make are going to work. Who knows, when the time comes, I might even be in favor of the trade. It depends on how Drew is playing, how the team is doing, and what other trade alternatives might be available. Until then, it’s a moot issue. .................................. LAKER TOM
MM... It will be interesting to see whether or not this highly publicized trade will ever take place. While I can understand why the Lakers might trade Drew for Dwight, I do not see it as the slam dunk that you do. There are still serious issues over how much more the Lakers will have to pay to sign Dwight and whether he would be willing to take a secondary role to Kobe Bryant. In my opinion, the issue will be resolved by how healthy Drew remains and how well he plays next year. If he focuses on defense and rebounding and can deliver an entire season with play reminiscent of the Lakers 17-1 post all-star game run, then I seriously doubt the Lakers would trade Drew for Dwight. ... The other big objection I have to trading Drew for Dwight is that center is the least of our worries right now. If we are going to trade assets, it would be a much more intelligent move to trade Pau or Lamar for a top notch point guard. Adding Chris Paul, Deron Williams, or Raymond Felton for Pau Gasol or Lamar Odom would give the Lakers a more balanced and versatile team than just replacing Drew with Dwight. Pau and Blake for CP3 and Ariza or Pau for Kevin Love, Jonny Flynn, Wesley Johnson, and the Wolves #2 pick are trades that would have a bigger impact in my opinion. ............................................................. LAKERTOM
MM... It will be interesting to see whether or not this highly publicized trade will ever take place. While I can understand why the Lakers might trade Drew for Dwight, I do not see it as the slam dunk that you do. There are still serious issues over how much more the Lakers will have to pay to sign Dwight and whether he would be willing to take a secondary role to Kobe Bryant. In my opinion, the issue will be resolved by how healthy Drew remains and how well he plays next year. If he focuses on defense and rebounding and can deliver an entire season with play reminiscent of the Lakers 17-1 post all-star game run, then I seriously doubt the Lakers would trade Drew for Dwight. ... The other big objection I have to trading Drew for Dwight is that center is the least of our worries right now. If we are going to trade assets, it would be a much more intelligent move to trade Pau or Lamar for a top notch point guard. Adding Chris Paul, Deron Williams, or Raymond Felton for Pau Gasol or Lamar Odom would give the Lakers a more balanced and versatile team than just replacing Drew with Dwight. Pau and Blake for CP3 and Ariza or Pau for Kevin Love, Jonny Flynn, Wesley Johnson, and the Wolves #2 pick are trades that would have a bigger impact in my opinion. ............................................................. LAKERTOM
Here is NBADraft.net’s profile for Julyan: ............................................................. NBA Comparison: Rod Grizzard ... Strengths: Extremely versatile guard ... Blessed with the natural ability to play PG and size to play three different positions ... Strong athleticism with very good leaping ability and explosiveness ... Smooth, quick first step ... Good penetrator that spends a lot of time in the paint ... Has become very efficient over his four years at UTEP, finishing his last season at 53% ... Tall for a point guard with very long arms ... Excellent court vision ... Sees over the defense and doesn't miss open teammates ... Gets them the ball in a position where they can score easily ... Knows how to feed post players ... Makes good decisions with the ball in transition ... Trusts his teammates and has their trust as well ... Doesn't turn the ball over often ... Plays hard and hustles everywhere on the floor ... Averaged 7.5 rebounds in his senior season despite playing the point guard position ... Has the toughness, lateral quickness and long arms to be a blanket on defense ... Has the potential to defend 1s, 2s and 3s at the next level ... ... Weaknesses: Non-existent scoring ability ... Despite playing 36.5 minutes per game in the fairly weak Conference USA, he only averaged 8.5 points per game ... Very poor shooter ... Lacks any range on his jump shot ... Opponents will have no respect for his shooting ability and play off him, which will make him an easy player to defend, and inhibit his playmaking abilities ... Solid finishing ability around the rim, but won't get as many opportunities there at the next level ... Poor free-throw shooter at 56% ... Had four years to improve his shooting ability, yet never managed to do so ... ... Overall: Stone is a very interesting prospect, but won't have an easy path to the NBA ... PGs over 6'4 can be counted on one hand and seem to becoming obsolete ... He would be an ideal role-player at the next level if he could become a respectable shooter and maybe take advantage of his size by taking smaller defenders into the post ... His versatility may get his name called in the second round of this year's draft, but he needs to patch up some of the major holes in his game if he wants to play in the NBA any time soon ... ............................................................. LAKERTOM
JULYAN STONE MAKING A NAME FOR HIMSELF By Alex Kennedy for Hoopsworld http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18027 ............................................................... UTEP's Julyan Stone has the attributes that every NBA team looks for when evaluating a player. At six-foot-seven, 205 pounds, he has the athletic frame. He can score, rebound and play exceptional defense. He is intelligent and was an honor roll student at Dos Pueblos Senior High in California. He seems like a player that NBA scouts would drool over, right? ... Now consider the fact that Stone is a point guard. ... His biggest strength is creating for others and this season, he'll pass Tim Hardaway as UTEP's all-time assist leader. He is the only player in team history to total more than 500 points, rebounds, and assists. Because of his size, he causes match-up problems every time he steps onto the floor. He studies film of Chris Paul and Deron Williams and continues to improve at the one. He is the epitome of versatility and a triple-double threat each and every night. ... So why haven't you heard of him? How did a six-foot-seven point guard that leads his team in assists, rebounds, and blocks while putting up double digit scoring figures slip through the cracks? ... "I started out playing the center position," Stone told HOOPSWORLD. "That's all I played. I kept growing and when it seemed like I was finally done growing in my sophomore year, I played the one a little bit. But then I started growing again and they put me back in the post." ... He didn't get the chance to play point guard in high school, and continued to play out of position when he entered the AAU circuit. With Brandon Jennings and DeMar DeRozan starting in the backcourt on his team, Stone found himself back in the post during most games. ... "We were stacked at the wing and I was overlooked a lot," Stone said. "But I've always been on those types of teams so that's just the way it goes. I've always been overlooked. It's nothing new to me." ... Though he wasn't playing significant minutes at the one, he developed his point guard skills on the side at the urging of his brothers, J.T. and Jason. Both siblings excelled on the basketball court before playing college football at West Texas A&M and San Diego State and saw his potential at the one. ... "Growing up in California, my brothers always wanted me to be a guard," Stone said. "My brothers' favorite player was Jalen Rose so they always saw me as a big point guard and wanted me at that position. My brothers had always put that in me. Making sure I'd be able to dribble the ball, have that type of leadership, and to be able to play the one. They always trained me as a one rather than as a big and knowing where I wanted to get to and what I wanted to be, I felt that it was the best position for me. Really, I grew up learning the one but I didn't get the opportunity to play it until my freshman year in college." ... Because he wasn't given the opportunity to prove himself at point guard, many teams weren't calling when it came time for Stone to choose his school. ... "A lot of people didn't know about me and as things went along, I wasn't hearing from a lot of schools or coaches. Even back at home, UC Santa Barbara didn't even offer me a scholarship," Stone said. ... After averaging 17 points, 8.0 rebounds, 8.0 assists and 5.7 steals in his senior season, including single-game-highs of 36 points, 18 boards and 15 dimes, UTEP finally noticed him. Because he was so effective in all aspects of the game in high school, the team decided he would be best with the ball in his hands at point guard. When he arrived in El Paso, he was six-foot-four but another growth spurt allowed the guard grow into his size eighteen shoes and become even more effective on the court. .... "It's helped me a lot, especially when directing traffic. When I'm using hand signals or making eye contact with teammates, most guards are smaller so I'm able to just look over them. I'm able to see things on the court that a lot of other point guards aren't able to see because of my size. It's really an advantage offensively. Defensively, being able to use my length really helps me disturb the passing lanes and defend against smaller guards," Stone said. ... He has continued to improve each year at UTEP and while his high scoring teammates like Stefon Jackson and Randy Culpepper have garnered more NBA interest over the years, he feels that he'll be able to prove he belongs at the next level. Stone believes that his play this season and his performances throughout the draft process in workouts will help him land on a roster. ... "I think it's going to work out for me. As long as I go into the process at my best, I'll be fine. I can play off the ball, but I think the one is going to be my primary position if I get to the league. That's what I'm shooting for because I feel like that's the best advantage for me and my team. I think a team drafting me would want me as a big point guard," Stone said. ... He is currently projected as a second round pick by ESPN but one league source wouldn't be surprised if he moves into the first round with an impressive showing in workouts. He must continue to improve his jump shot but it has gotten better each year and his ability to create for others, defensive presence, and all-around game make up for his lack of range. If Stone does make it to the NBA, he feels that he'll be able to compete at a very high level. ... "As a competitor, I feel like I can be an elite point guard," Stone said. "I hope the same thing happens at the NBA level that happened in college where I show teams that I belong here because of the time and work I put in. I feel like I can play with anybody and I learn from everyone I play. I think that gives me an advantage because a lot of players don't learn, they just play the game. They don't see different tendencies or what their opponent does so I feel like that's another thing that's just going to help me become the player that I want to be and eventually an elite point guard at the next level." ... But for now, he's focused on helping his team win games and racking up the triple-doubles. ... "It's been three years in the making. Every time, I'm one rebound or one assist away. I'm definitely going to get you one, I'm getting multiple this year. Multiple triple-doubles!" Stone said with a laugh. ... The six-foot-seven point guard has set lofty goals for himself but has the work ethic and skill set to turn them into reality. Julyan Stone isn't a household name but he's finally been given the chance to step into the spotlight and will make the most of the opportunity. If all goes as planned, it may just be a matter of time until he's counting the triple-doubles he plans to record over the course of an eighty-two game season. ............................................................... LAKER TOM
NEWSWORTH ODDS AND ENDS !!! ............................................................. First, some great news! Tex Winter’s health has improved so much he is now expected to attend his induction into the Hall of Fame in August in person. It appropriate that Tex get inducted the same year that Phil allegedly concludes his coaching career. Phil Jackson will of course be there too. .... Rumors are starting that the Cavs may not select Kyrie Irving in the upcoming NBA draft. Word is they are considering selecting Derrick Williams, feeling he would give the team much of what LeBron did with his size, athleticism, and outside shooting ability. That mean’s Kyrie might be available to whatever team manages to trade for the Wolves #2 pick in the draft. Another reason to consider trading Pau Gasol for Kevin Love, Jonny Flynn, Wesley Johnson, and the Wolves #2 pick. David Kahn wants to trade the pick for a veteran and specifically listed Pau Gasol. Call him, Mitch. ... If you needed reminding that our petty lives are nada compared to LeBron, consider that Birdman bet $2M on the Miami Heat to win the NBA championship. There is a cool video out there showing his reaction as LeBron leaves the court after the Mavs ended the Heat’s ring dreams in six. ... I’ve already reserved my spot in the Lakers championship parade next year by making sure that I would have the spare funds to make the trip down from the Bay area by placing a $200 bet for the Lakers to win the 2012 NBA Championship. I figure $1,100 should cover my expenses nicely. ... Funny how just a year ago 2-time NBA champion Pau Gasol was being touted all over as the most talented big men and best European player in the game and Dirk Nowitzki was considered to be a soft player on the decline who would never win a ring. A year ago, fans laughed at comments by Marc Cuban that he would not trade Dirk for any player, including Kobe Bryant. Now, Lakers fans are calling for Gasol’s exhile and wishing we had the German superstar instead of the Spaniard. ... Draft Express has proclaimed that the Lakers have committed to drafting Texas ElPaso’s Julyan Stone with the 41st pick in the upcoming NBA draft. Stone is a 6-7 200# senior point guard who averaged 8.5 points, 7.5 boards, and 5.3 assists his senior year, shooting 60% on 2-pointers and 30% on 3-pointers. Hoopsworld’s Alex Kennedy says “At six-foot-seven, 205 pounds, he has the athletic frame. He can score, rebound and play exceptional defense. He is intelligent and was an honor roll student at Dos Pueblos Senior High in California. “ Sounds like a great fit for the Lakers needs, a true pass first point guard who plays great defense and is a triple double threat every game. ............................................................. LAKERTOM
@LTLF ... Every loss is a team loss and Drew did not play well all the time but overall I think he played better in the playoffs than any other Laker, especially Pau Gasol. ... What this is all about is the ridiculous claim being made that the Lakers did not three-peat because of trying to feed the ball to Drew and Pau instead of having Kobe go into attack mode. ................................. LAKERTOM
@SOSHIBO & FRMKT ... My comments were not in reference to trading Drew for Dwight. They were specifically in reference to another blogger’s posts blaming Drew for the Lakers not winning their third championship in a row and exonerating Kobe for any blame. ................................. LAKERTOM
@ALEKSAM ... You have to remember that certain bloggers refuse to acknowledge Drew’s value or contribution to the team because they fear that Drew might steal some of Kobe’s shots and glory. That’s why they create these fantasies that blame everything on Drew, who really was the only Lakers player who showed up for the playoffs. Give them a little more rope and Pau will come out a hero. ................................. LAKERTOM
@ALEKSAM ... You have to remember that certain bloggers refuse to acknowledge Drew’s value or contribution to the team because they fear that Drew might steal some of Kobe’s shots and glory. That’s why they create these fantasies that blame everything on Drew, who really was the only Lakers player who showed up for the playoffs. Give them a little more rope and Pau will come out a hero. ................................. LAKERTOM
@HOBBITMAGE ... “Furthermore, I'm going to say that your historical record of being right and wrong, when it comes to basketball, clearly shows that you don't know jack.” So long, hobbit. I am just going to ignore your posts from now on. I think it’s pretty obvious who doesn’t know Jack. ................................. LAKERTOM
@MCLYNE ... Thanks for your comments. I love Kobe and think he will adjust his game but I also realize and respect how tough a task that is for a guy with Kobe’s drive and talent to do but it’s the smart thing to do to win more championships and Kobe is one smart guy who definitely is not done. ... I have to say I have been a little hesitant to support a Monta Ellis trade but after thinking about it, it could be a great solution to add youth, speed, and athleticism to our lineup. Instead of a shooting guard and point guard, the Lakers would have a duo of combo guards who can get their own shots. ................................. @PSYCORP ... I do not disagree with either your or hobbit’s comments about Phil getting outcoached by Rick Carlisle. I thought Phil gave up in the second round and was just happy to be done with coaching and the stress. That’s why he was so happy on his way to the podium. ................................. LAKERTOM
My condolences to Robert Horry and family. Children dying before parents is one of the toughest things for any family to suffer. May Ashlyn rest in peace. The Horry family will be in our prayers. ................................. LAKERTOM
@MCLYNE ... Thanks for your comments. I love Kobe and think he will adjust his game but I also realize and respect how tough a task that is for a guy with Kobe’s drive and talent to do but it’s the smart thing to do to win more championships and Kobe is one smart guy who definitely is not done. ... I have to say I have been a little hesitant to support a Monta Ellis trade but after thinking about it, it could be a great solution to add youth, speed, and athleticism to our lineup. Instead of a shooting guard and point guard, the Lakers would have a duo of combo guards who can get their own shots. ................................. @PSYCORP ... I do not disagree with either your or hobbit’s comments about Phil getting outcoached by Rick Carlisle. I thought Phil gave up in the second round and was just happy to be done with coaching and the stress. That’s why he was so happy on his way to the podium. ................................. LAKERTOM
Toggle Commented Jun 14, 2011 on Free-agent profile: DeAndre Jordan at Lakers Now
@HOBBITMAGE... I don’t have any more time to waste on silly debates. This is the last post on this subject to you. In response to your obviously leading questions, here are my answers: ................................. (Q) you want Kobe to pass the ball more to D-Fish, Pau Gasol & Ron Artest? ... (A) If they were open and were either hitting their shots or had an advantageous matchup, yes. You either trust or do not trust your teammates. That’s what team basketball is all about. You WANT your teammates to succeed because you know 1 man cannot win a game by himself. It takes a team. ................................. (Q) Aren't you the guy who said that Smush Parker was the Laker's (sic) future? ... (A) No, I was the guy who wanted to replace him with Jordan Farmar. I always hated Smush Parker. I may have rooted for him because I do that for every player who dons purple and gold but I never liked Smush and always considered he and Kwame to be players we would be better off without. ................................. (Q) Didn't you also say that Bynum going to the World Cup, instead of getting surgery, wouldn't be a problem? ... (A) What I said was Drew requested and was granted permission by the team to go so I was fine with it. I also do not accept that playing a couple of minutes more per game early in the season is why Pau Gasol disappeared late in the season and in the playoffs. More of your rehashing of dead horses. ................................. (Q) Didn't you also say that it was better for Bynum to go on vacation instead of training with Kareem? ... (A) No, I never said that. What I did say was after many years of working with Kareem, I could understand why the team and Drew decided that the intense tutoring was no longer needed because the returns were diminishing. Your insinuation that Drew did not appreciate or learn from Kareem is nothing more than your personal opinion. Drew and Kareem have never said anything negative or unflattering about each other. In fact, Kareem’s comments about Drew are highly complementary. ................................. (Q) Didn't you also question Gary Vitti's medical skill because he's not a certified doctor? ... (A) What I said about Vitti was that he was not a doctor and that I would rather count on the opinion of the medical professionals who felt that Drew’s knee problems or physical structure was not a worry to prevent the Lakers from drafting or extending Drew’s contract. Again, what are you trying to prove here other than questioning my honesty and trustworthiness? ................................. (Q) Is your statement that the man with 5 championships, 1 MVP, 2 finals MVP, 1 Olympic Gold Medal, 4 all-star MVP's, multiple all-nba awards and multiple all-nba-defensive awards knows less about basketball and what it takes to win at the NBA level than some guy in northern california who never played professional basketball? ... (A) No, my statement is that one who has never played the game, has little understanding of what it takes to create team chemistry on the court, and has admitted that he doesn’t think like most people knows less about what it takes to win at the NBA level than one who has played, officiated, coached, watched, and analyzed countless games for years. ................................. LAKERTOM
@LTLF ... With due respect, “Ballhogs win championships” needs to be modified to be “Ballhogs that learn to play team basketball and make their teammates better (that’s for you, hobbitmage) win championships.” That’s what separated MJ and Kobe from the never-saw-a-shot-I-didn’t-like crew of hundreds of talented great scorers who never understood what it takes to win a championship. ................................. LAKERTOM
@HOBBITMAGE ... What you consider to be proof is nothing more than a bunch of quotes most of which don’t even address the specifics of what you are supposedly proving, which is that the Lakers failed to three-peat because they tried to feed their big men rather than letting Kobe dominate the offense. When you understand that these discussions are all subjective and not subject to being proven by a bunch of supposedly relevant quotes sometimes taken out of context, then we would be able to have an intelligent conversation. As it stands, that has now become obviously impossible. ................................. LAKERTOM