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Isn't some of the problem here that, police brutality, seem to be the only thing that actually unites the crowds? I am in no sense an expert on Turkey, however, as far as I have understood, the crowds consists of (at least) the following fractions: 1. Environmentalists 2. Ataturk supporters 3. Secular right-wing fascists 4. Moderate leftists, the occupy movement, and the labour movement 5. Violent left-wing, communists and anarchists 6. Kurdish youth movements 7. Classic liberals 8. Anti-prohibitionists 9. Disillusioned young people from Erdogans urban core (as different from the rural core). That's a pretty weird coalition if you ask me, but if they stick together until Erdogan is back - and then some - I think we can count on his political career to be in severe danger. Although that may not spill over on the political clout of neither the AK party, nor the Gulen movement.
Dani, I think you are correct about the likeliness of the twp options, and I find it most unfortunate. I am actually quite shocked about how little the EU and its leaders have done to avoid this. the solutions were all there, all the time. However, the flawed democracy in Brussels got hijacked by vested interests who, at the end of the day, had no interest in extending political cooperation and finding real solutions for ordinary Europeans. Elite influence has proved disastrous in both the EU and in the US, however, in different ways.
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Nov 8, 2011