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Willard Preacher
Los Angeles
Enjoying show business, the So Cal weather, and following the Phils.
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awh, that tracks... Then, to explain his recent change of heart, in his lame dame status he comes around (at least in public comments) on Ruf, a guy who evidently has Gillick's support. Perhaps we're embarking on an "RAJ, Yes Man" stage until his eventual contract extension? Just not sure if there's ever been a precedent set for "Yes Men" in the Phillies FO before...
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RAJ inserting Darin Ruf's name in his "players to build around" comment, only further douses gasoline on my conspiracy that RAJ's days at the helm are done whether he holds the title of GM for the next year or not. Darin Ruf could hijack a truck full of puppies and drive it off a 100 ft cliff and the owner of those puppies wouldn't hate Ruf as much as RAJ does. And Gelb's chat response to the "trade Brown" question, "I think Gillick wants Brown to either succeed or fail as a Phillie" doesn't help RAJ's cause much, either.
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Royals, here, too, FWIW. As for the ratings, if someone told you around the ASB that you could watch a SFG/KC series or no other baseball at all, I suspect most folks would schedule their family vacation for that time period. That said, this is precisely what the vaunted 2nd Wild Card/single-WC-play-in-game dynamic brings us. On a somewhat related note, come January pundits will clamor for the CFB playoff to be expanded (to at least 8 teams). Be careful what you wish for - the more teams you include, the greater the likelihood that the last two playing will never have been considered among the top teams previously...
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My money is on the Dodgers. No real reason, other than Friedman's recent move, and what the local (I'm in LA) chatter about Mattingly's general lack of confidence from the LAD FO. It would be a stupid move, but the LA ownership group has a ton of money tied up in this team, and won't be okay with just making the playoffs (though we all know the playoffs are a crapshoot - it's a special breed of "fan" out here...). Maddon has a great resume and would be a good get for just about any team, but in my mind, I still can't get excited about "the guy who lost a WS to Charlie Manuel." (kidding)
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BAP, while that's true, it's not possible. Maddon has no history of ties to the organization and, therefore, is not eligible for hire.
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GBF, can you blame him? The Phillies are on record, stating they'll be competitive in 2-3 years. Gotta get in on the ground floor! Sorry Sandberg.
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Curious to see whether or not Brown factors into that team being alluded to. ;) I suspect that next year (and maybe '16 too?) will likely serve as live auditions for him and several others. Until then, I'm guessing that a Tomas signing would signal a Byrd trade shortly thereafter. At least exposing him to waivers (and him being claimed/pulled back) has proven that there was at least some interest then. Perhaps RAJ (or whomever) already has the framework of a deal in place.
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'buster, I'm totally with you in regards to Tomas, too. I feel like he's most likely to be the "big get" this off season. Everyone else is just keeping seats warm. In that regard, however, just how close is Tomas? We already have a full OF and that's before signing Sizemore. I'd assume that signing Tomas would force a trade of Byrd (or Brown)?
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Yep, "rebuild" was the genesis of the entire discussion. And the timeline was directly stated to manage expectations in the interim (if they make the playoffs in the next two years, it's likely purely by accident). Gillick's involvement here, in and of itself, is intriguing. He's not going to go back to the GM role, but he clearly is the one pulling the strings and charting the course right now (or at least doing one hell of a job in creating that perception). This, in effect, renders RAJ somewhat emasculated already, and causes me to wonder if there actually might be some truth to the speculation of Gillick succeeding Monty as the team President (and boss of whatever GM they have serve as the mouthpiece). Though, I also cast suspicion on all of the other elements of Eskin's story (most notably Middleton's run at majority ownership). I guess a big trade of Howard or Hamels, though, may have us at least wondering if there's something there.
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Both moves fit the narrative as stop-gaps and fit the mold of saving money and roster space for down the line. Now we just need those moves (bigger $ and longer term) for younger guys who will actually be part of that relevant 2017 team!
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The Phillies tweeting it is, essentially, the Phillies granting their approval of the article. Throw that into the growing list of actions that actually substantiate that our beloved Phils may have finally realized that Rollins, Howard and Utley aren't going to be bringing our next parade down Broad Street. In the last few days alone: - The Phillies sign a "throw away" type pitcher to a very team-friendly deal (one year, and cheap enough to cut bait on at any time) - Gillick publicly states that the team will not be competitive for the next few years and will be rebuilding (which substantiates things like the JW signing) - The Phillies are publicly linked to Tomas and even indicated as "front runners" to get him (a move which would be indicative of rebuilding) This actually could be an exciting off season for us (tempering expectations with RAJ still "in charge"). You can definitely rest assured that every single move will be scrutinized as to how it will impact the future, as opposed to 2015, which is a nice change of pace, I suppose. Though it only reassures me that 2015 will be a very hard team to watch. Hopefully it entails many more younger kids working out growing pains and developing, which will at least inspire some semblance of reason to be optimistic.
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dajafi had a great writeup on TGP, indicating that Gillick's public comments may be partially to persuade the likes of Howard, and others, with NTC's (limited or full) to reconsider the available trade options. Whether that's the intent or not, it's inevitable that any veteran looking for a ring takes a good hard look in the mirror.
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What is interesting about Gillick's comments is that it's the first time any indication or allusion to any sort of "plan" is made (long or short term). So, if nothing else, as depressing as it makes the next couple of years sound (and let's be honest, this isn't exactly "news") it's somewhat refreshing to hear something candid come out of the FO in that vein. It's also likely no coincidence that they chose Gillick, someone who the fanbase holds in high regard, to be the messenger of this communication. Prepare for another couple of years of "Bark in the Park" nights and the like, to stop the hemorrhaging attendance drop-off. What this immediately calls into question, though, is that now that the FO is on record for stating that they do have a rebuilding plan, targeting relevance in 2017 or 2018, who exactly is going to be the GM to usher and oversee this little project? It's a bit of a head scratcher to throw that timeline out there while we're staring down the barrel of a GM whose contract expires at the end of this next season. It sounds as if there may be some truth to the rumors of some looming FO moves, and Gillick sure does make himself conspicuous in all of it by being the initial mouthpiece here.
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The700Level @The700Level Cool. RT @CSNPhilly: Phils interim CEO Pat Gillick tells @JClarkCSN he doesn't expect team to contend in 2015 or 2016 http://bit.ly/1wrQPaa
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Fat, no sir, you are not. That would be epic. I also hold out hope that DPat is actually Chris Coste, as well.
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Yeah, I'm well on the record for preferring an upgrade in CF and casting a few stones in the direction of Revere, but even I have to say that MM's Revere hatred is something special. The irony is that the closest many of us will ever come to vitriol of that order is what we have felt recently toward Mini Mart, the player, himself.
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curt, I absolutely agree. However, it also lessens the Phillies leverage, and extremely limits the base of teams with which they can trade (i.e. only ones in or on the throes of contention - those of which whom may not be so inclined to deal away young, just about ready for prime time talent). But, on it's face, yes, that's a small sticking point. And I certainly didn't mean to stymie further discussion with respect to the Cubs situation, as it really was great conversation. Just pointing out that the haul we'd be likely to see in return would be limited as Cole's NTC would be yet another hurdle to a deal being done (and saying nothing that the Cubs aren't quite knocking on the doors of the playoffs as of yet...).
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Looks like my link didn't work. Anyway, here was the article from earlier this summer. http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sports/phillies/The-teams-Cole-Hamels-would-accept-a-trade-to-as-reported-by-FoxSportscom.html As I think we discussed at the time, it's a list of teams that either Cole would actually consider playing for (Dodgers, Padres) coupled with teams he knows the Phils would never trade him to (Nationals, Braves).
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All the "Hamels to the Cubs" trade scenarios, discussion and speculation is absolutely fantastic reading and stimulating conversation, and what I like about Beerleaguer above other sites. That said, all of the above scenarios omit one minor fact - that the Cubs are among all but 9 teams that Hamels would accept a trade to.
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awh, you're likely right. All the talk when it was opening was how well it set up for Santana. Perhaps it would be better referenced as "The House That Boras Had Remodeled?"
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CW, at this rate, by the 2019 season, the Mets park may be shorter than Williamsport. Seems they move those fences in pretty regularly.
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For the record, I actually appreciate the "recycled TGP content," here, as I as of yet still can't find a quick and concise way to engage in discussion of a multitude of ongoing topics there.
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I can't quite put into words exactly why I don't care for SFG, but I suspect that Buster Posey's face has quite a bit to do with it. But, yeah, the Cardinals are absolutely deplorable, what with their farm system, development, coaching and the like. Eff them and their obnoxious fans.
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‏@FranzkeLA Octobers where the highlight is hiring a scouting director must be a culture shock to the newer Phillies fans, but not the longtime ones
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BAP, you mean that if a utility IF isn't good enough to start at one of his multitude of positions, that playing him out of position AND starting him, isn't a good idea? This is why you're not GM.
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