Looks like they are pulling out all the stops to sell as many ICEV as possible before moving to EVs.

For every ICE sold that another 15-20 years of ongoing pollution; nothing slower than a OEM car company moving off the status quo.

Some believe the future in mobility will be based on payment for the mile driven or hour rented., i.e., people will rent cars and pay for shared taxi service; the except will be the relative few drivers who own their own car. This will be a World of High-Speed HyperLoops and last mile electric scooters, bikes, city shuttles, etc. There will be little need for city parking lots and crowded freeways.

More on motors: https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1121585_argonne-develops-lighter-cheaper-more-efficient-motor-for-evs-charging

When the wind quits, the Sun's not out and the battery storage is depleted, you must have something to keep the lights on...but multiple internal combustion engine gensets?...I'm thinking this would be a good use for hydrogen created and stored at the plant instead of petro.

Will be interesting to compare the results of this new motor with the initial flights completed in Nov/2018; Still the key to this configuration is the performance of the battery, as always. I expect soon to see a hydrogen hybrid in light aero.

Paroway: Two small drive motors in the axles and you don't need a gearbox; electric drive trains are already pretty simple and with development drive trains will become ever smaller, less-costly, stronger and longer-lived. Too bad and Ford decided wrongly on the internal explosion engine and Rockefeller's fossil fuel to power cars at the turn of the Century. Had Ford and Edison continued to develop the Detroit Electric EVs and battery technology, we might already be on Mars and also living on a much healthier Earth.

Argonne Labs has been researching Mg and Al as alternatives to Li for 5 plus years' Their conclusion is 'no'. Having said that, I hope they are wrong and you're right.

E-P: Yes, it's like how ugly can we make it so people will buy the series 3(ICE) instead.

Ever walked close behind a diesel bus...takes your breath away! Read where California proposes to replace all 18,000 of their city buses with electric.

Judging by the increase in battery research activity presented on this site, there should be many different cell chemistries available by 2022. This being just one.

Economists are also worried that 7 million are over 3 months behind in their auto loans: https://www.sltrib.com/news/nation-world/2019/02/12/record-million-americans/ They should be worried since 400 families, of the 1%, have more money than the lowest 150 million people in our economy; and, the current administration has increase the nation's debt to record levels, with a "tax cut" that is proving to be a tax increase for those in the shrinking U.S. middle class.

This bus has a complicated, expensive drivetrain: high pressure storage cylinders that require recertification and replacement at intervals; , a fuel cell electric generator a huge buffering battery and an electric motor drivetrain.....all mounted high in the chassis. Why not replace all the hydrogen complexity with a large battery as low in the chassis as possible for safety from rollovers? The advantage of a hydrogen system is the 10 minute fuel refilling time; BEV interests are working on high power fast charging and more energy dense, less costly, batteries to counter.

How about a cold weather portable (removable) factory heater kit consisting of a third battery charged by the car's system and a resistive heater all integrated properly in the car? How about a factory option: a larger battery and heater for the cold weather climates? Burning fossil fuel is my last choice.

In the near future charge stations made up of solar/wind/wave energy devices and a large storage battery will be used to fast charge semi trucks. That removes the fast fueling advantage hydrogen has over batteries.

Proving again it takes mandates to pressure private industry to respond.

Demand increases, cost increases.

We need to make companies define the full life of the products they produce and include a requirement to define the toxic compounds and how to remove them from the environment. That hopefully would take away U.S. companies de facto permission to pollute.

Using current battery traction systems, especially a Nissan battery, to shave electric power transfers the savings to paying for a replacement battery earlier in the cycle life. But, if you can get away with using a leased EV, that changes the money equation.

TEST to close HTML TagOf course it's speculation; but, I think Tesla is setting the stage to build their own cells/capss instead of buying them from Panasonic and others; the acquisition of Maxwell, their 5 year agreement to fund Dr Jeff Dahn's Research Group(battery research) and their recent battery patent filings offer clues of this direction. The clean energy future is dependent on the innovation of battery tech and the technology would thrive under Tesla guidance and policies.

Of course it's speculation; but, I think Tesla is setting the stage to build their own cells/capss instead of buying them from Panasonic and others; the acquisition of Maxwell, their 5 year agreement to fund Dr Jeff Dahn's Research Group(battery research) and their recent battery patent filings offer clues of this direction. The clean energy future is dependent on the innovation of battery tech and the technology would thrive under Tesla guidance and policies.

Ever get caught in "today's rush hour traffic"? I rest my case.

Seems to be more of a punishment than a convenience for "those that dare not charge at home."(ha).

In the U.S., I believe the answer for the decline of car ownership is: the bulk of wealth has moved even more to the already wealthy by the policies of a central government, run and controlled by the wealthy, i.e., the common kids simply can't afford the cost of a car. For example; as more Public Schools are eliminated, they are loaded down with education debt and kept poor by a credit card system that is designed to move wealth to the rich money lenders, creditors. The richest American economic segment is the financial segment. The U.S. has been moving toward a two class system, the rich and the poor, since the elitist Ronald Reagan was President and set the nation on its present course. A course that eliminates the middle class and leaves only the rich and the peons.

Any way to store surplus energy is a plus; some fossil fuel power plants dump energy as demand drops because the stations can't respond fast enough. Also, this has occurred in Texas when there is a surplus of wind power with customers offered free electricity to use the surplus. Creating compressed hydrogen from the surplus on site and selling it or reusing it in hydrogen turbines makes sense. I see aircraft and sea ships powered by hydrogen turbines and/or steady state hydrogen fuel cells as part of the clean future since both powered by fossil fuels are gross polluters. I think BEVs hold the edge over hydrogen cars because of the cost/efficiency/pollution differentials .