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It doesn't really seem like you made an earnest effort to respond to Brinstar's comment since you did not answer the one question she asked. Speaking for myself, I am not looking to "resolve any issues" with regard to Abraham or CD in this post, I would just like to know what you were referring to exactly in your post. Your reference to his efforts was vague and given that your statement was made to support your call for financial assistance, I don't think it unreasonable to ask you to clarify what you meant specifically when you said his efforts to be inclusive were commendable.
Toggle Commented Nov 20, 2009 on Help fly Ben to GDC at Brainy Gamer
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Hey Abbott, since you didn't answer Brinstar's question, I'll ask it again: What efforts are you referring to exactly when you write that Ben's "efforts to build an inclusive aggregation site are commendable?" And another question I'll add to that: What do you mean by inclusive?
Toggle Commented Nov 19, 2009 on Help fly Ben to GDC at Brainy Gamer
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If every person in a conversation just referenced the same posts and agreed with the same logic of previous topics, it wouldn't be much of a conversation, would it? I disagree.
Toggle Commented Mar 19, 2009 on On face value images at Brainy Gamer
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Ah, but what at point is something so tiny or not meaning to be offensive that you should just brush it off? That "point" is for each individual to decide for themselves and not for others to determine for them. You might not be aware of this, but POC brush off a lot of offensive things all the time. You might think POC are nitpicking, or looking for racism in everything when we raise our voices about something you don't think is racist, but in reality we almost always choose our battles carefully. There are several offensive comments on this thread that I am just "brushing off" because I don't have the energy or the inclination to address all of the racist or ignorant things that I encounter on any given day. This isn't just an intellectual debate for me, fyi: racism is a daily reality that I live, and yes I have developed coping strategies and I take many, many racist things in stride, but that doesn't mean that racism doesn't still offend me on a very visceral level. Also, something else that should be pointed out: just because no offense was intended does not mean the offender is off the hook. Intent is not the only thing that matters--results matter just as much, if not more. When does it become being overly sensitive? Assuming that the offended party is sincere, never. No one gets to determine what the threshold of offensiveness is except the person who was offended. Think about it this way: when you are upset, offended or hurting about something, don't you want to be taken seriously? And if so, why wouldn't you in turn extend that same consideration and respect to a fellow human being? If racism is bad because it is harmful, at what point is the racism not doing any harm? Racism is never not harmful. If there is no harm, then what transgressed was not racism. Or not enough to matter? Racism, big or small, always matters.
Toggle Commented Mar 19, 2009 on On face value images at Brainy Gamer
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I mean thank you for *your* comments, kateri.
Toggle Commented Mar 19, 2009 on On face value images at Brainy Gamer
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Kateri, thank you for their comments. They fill me with relief. For whatever it's worth, I don't think you were out of line--your comments suggested to me that you were holding a lot of anger and frustration back, to which I can relate. :) Kateri and I have both been chided for our tone and/or lack of patience in this thread. I highly recommend these two links for those who think we have not been patient, they might help you better understand where we are coming from: The Privilege of Politeness Stuff POC do: restrain ourselves
Toggle Commented Mar 19, 2009 on On face value images at Brainy Gamer
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I'm just saying that the game, in my mind, is so brainless as to not really be comparable to the awful, racist repression I've seen firsthand. It's like comparing a glass of water to the ocean. I see the point you're making, but another way to look at it is that the ocean is comprised of many, many glasses of water. All of the small, seemingly harmless acts of racism work to sustain and reinforce the kind of culture that enables the larger acts that you've witnessed. The larger, more repressive acts of racism would not be possible without the smaller ones. Put another way, that isn't racism. This is: Cannot both be racist, but to varying degrees and levels of harm?
Toggle Commented Mar 19, 2009 on On face value images at Brainy Gamer
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RE5 takes place in a fictional West African country called Kijuju, but as far as I'm aware this information has only recently come to surface in the press materials about the game. I don't really have anything else to add though, as I agree wholeheartedly with the rest of your comment. :-)
Toggle Commented Mar 18, 2009 on On face value images at Brainy Gamer
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So is there only black and white? Suggesting the the Spanish identity is largely constructed both internally and externally (within Europe) as white is not the same as saying "there is only black and white." you have to look back at history and really think. Who hasn't been enslaved at one point in time or another? The problems with the imagery in RE5 are not just due to the history of slavery in the United States of America, and we need not pick up a history book in order to find examples of the racist treatment of Africa or Africans. Racism is still very much alive to this day--it is not a historic artifact. A large group of white people fought very hard to make sure blacks had equal rights. And a very large group of white people also fought to prevent the Voting Rights Act of 1965 from passing. It is not clear to me exactly what your point is? And the only people that are still holding grudges against each party are hanging on to the past which like picking at a scab, will never fully heal Again, racism is still very much a problem in the present day. Those of us who do anti-racist work do so because, while it is unlikely to happen in our lifetime, we do very much believe that it is possibly to "fully heal." There is no logical or inherent reason why we must live in a racist world and progress is a continual process. We're in America and everybody is equal (more or less...). Not everyone participating in this discussion is a US of American, or is in the USA. And I firmly disagree with your assertion that, with the USA, everybody is equal, more or less. That is certainly not the reality that I live, as a US citizen.
Toggle Commented Mar 18, 2009 on On face value images at Brainy Gamer
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We need to shift the discourse from "this is racist" or "you are a racist for liking this" to "This makes me uncomfortable" or "This bears similarities to historical bigotry." Three things: 1) Are you arguing that if one legitimately finds something racist, they should temper their criticism for the sake of not ruffling feathers? 2) Could you provide links to places where defenders of RE5 have been called racist for liking the game? I have yet to see that happen myself, and I am curious about this claim. 3) Are you familiar with MTV Multiplayer's interview with N'Gai Croal last year? More than anyone else throughout this RE5 controversy, Croal has come under fire and been attacked for being one of the most vocal critics of the imagery in RE5, and his critiques were largely stated as "This makes me uncomfortable" and "This imagery has a history." People like Croal have been trying to keep the discourse centered around that framework for well over a year now--have you not noticed? Unfortunately, his words--which were the kind of conversation that you are saying we need to be having--were interpreted by many gamers as attacks on them and the games they like. The problem is not that people haven't been trying to have the kind of conversations you're calling for, it's that when these conversations take place they are at best ignored, at worst misinterpreted, attacked and dismissed. When gamers only see what they want to see, will "shifting the discourse" really change anything for the better? That you are calling for a shift in discourse suggests to me that you simply haven't been paying much attention to or are just unaware of the many, many conversations that have been taking place within anti-racist gaming circles--perhaps you yourself are guilty of dismissing or ignoring the kind of criticism of RE5 that you say you'd like to see more of. One cannot argue with how a person reacts to something, one can only try to understand it. I truly wish this was the case. The vitriol leveled at Croal that continues to this day leads me to believe that many or even most gamers do not agree with your statement, sadly.
Toggle Commented Mar 18, 2009 on On face value images at Brainy Gamer
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I wonder what black gamers think of RE5. I wonder if any black people or other minorities read this blog or others like it, and what they think of these conversations. brinstar, in the comment above yours, posted several links to commentary from black gamers on RE5. Here is another for good measure. It is a bit disappointing that that you are asking these questions when the answers have already been provided for you within this space. It's not entirely clear, but it sounds like from your comment that you are under the impression that maybe only white people have been participating in these kinds of conversations, both here and elsewhere? Which is a rather unfortunate presumption (if that is the case) as "minorities" have already contributed their thoughts on this issue within this very comment thread, as well as on Abbott's previous post that touched on this issue. Would African-Americans feel differently about this game than a black Nigerian, a white American than a white South African? I suspect that they do, as no ethnic group is monolithic in thought.
Toggle Commented Mar 18, 2009 on On face value images at Brainy Gamer
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