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But the Treaties do not empower external Treaty organisations to use the ECJ. Any outside body can cite the TEU, but that does not make it the law of the EU. The ECJ has no jurisdiction over other people's treaties. But it is possible to agree that the precedent set is an appalling one which opens up all sorts of possibilities for the Ponzis. Which is why ceding the right to use the EU institutions is so damaging to UK interests and why Cameron's abjuration of the Rule of Law is so wicked.
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Use of the ECJ is plainly unlawful. No one has even hinted at a basis in law for it to be legal. Cameron and Hague know this, the FCO knows it and the Federalists know it – and love it. So the first issue is why the government of the United Kingdom – whatever the consequences may be – acquiescing in rank illegality? Our whole tradition, political, constitutional and reputational has been built on a foundation of the Rule of Law, yet here is your Leader casually chucking it in the bin. Shame on him and shame on all of you who leave him in a position so to do. I note the Leader of your MEPs in Brussels effectively saying that we cannot win, so let’s throw in the towel. That is the position taken by Halifax, R.A. Butler and others in May 1940: appeasement and defeatism. Far better to go the distance of challenging illegality for what it is and have a corrupt institution rule as Judge in its own cause. We, at least, might then stand unsullied by the taint of connivance in this shabby business, Honour intact. So what if a lot of corrupt, grubby undemocratic politicians blame the UK for the demise of their rotten little Ponzi scheme. Our reputation for upholding the Rule of Law is far more valuable than giving in to tawdry tactics of the backers of a bankrupt cause. Why this craven desire to roll over? Better to go down fighting than to yield. Or are you never going to make a stand? Sadly, your man has got his white flag back from the cleaners and he’s going to wave it for all he is worth. Do you not all burn in shame? No, I thought not. Notably, he appears to be returning having extracted absolutely nothing as a quid pro quo for his act of appeasement. At least Chamberlain had a scrap of paper enabling him to promise “Peace in our time”. The second issue is: what you are going to do about it? Er, nothing. You could, of course, get rid of him. He is never, ever, going to deliver on the EU. He is always going to kowtow to Clegg. And the Tory Party will let him get on with it. Oh he may faff on about repatriation of powers awhile yet, and some token demonstration of his biceps may yet follow. But essentially the EU has explored Lisbon pretty fully now and understands that it has the power to get its leg over the UK whenever it is of a mind to do so and all your man can do is utter the odd plaintive ‘No, not now, I have a headache’ before UK freedom, democracy and independence is trammelled underfoot yet again. All this was foretold in spades. The EU will always get its way, legally or illegally. It cares not a jot. It has found a way it believes will always avoid a referendum and is going to exploit it for all it is worth. Vetoes will be blown into the air like so much dandelion seed. You could have had Honour and Acclaim. Instead you have chosen Shame and Dishonour. Those of you who would have it otherwise do have an option: join UKIP or at least vote UKIP. Otherwise it will be business as usual.
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"I don't know what the Liberal Democrats are making of Britain's latest declaration of independence but the language about the veto is becoming more heated. Andrew Duff MEP compares Cameron to a "saboteur", Hague to a "political commissar" and accuses Osborne of being dishonest." Some here may not have come across the obnoxious Duff who makes the likes of Clegg, Ashdown, Patten, Heseltine, Mandelson etc. look like raving Little Englanders. So Federast is he that he cannot bring himself to identify himself as British but instead opts for the EU-SPEAK weaselism "the country which I know best". The Union of European Federalists is his little fiefdom: he is its President. Check it out at http://www.federalists.eu but remember to arm yourself with a brown paper bag before reading any of its material. Best wishes for an EU-free 2012.
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1. I thought Theresa May's performance on "Today" this a.m. was about as poor a performance from a politician as I have heard - in what is, let us face it, these days a progressively more crowded field. And Humphrys was hardly even trying. 2. It seems to me utterly fatuous to burble on about "the way we police is by consent". I wonder: Do fellow readers agree with me that it rather looks as though large numbers of people in London and elsewhere have ceased to consent to be policed at all? 3. On a more general point, if the ruling political caste of this country is minded routinely to treat The People with contempt - of which tendency the recent letter from the PM's office "You had your vote in 1975, so sod off!" is but a recent sample - it should come as no suprise that bits of The People respond in kind. 4. There are some who are calling for the Army to be deployed: which Army would that be, then? A final thought: if the Police are short of numbers, there are two possible ways of alleviating this. (A) By cancelling all Police leave and forking out for a bit of overtime; and (B) by cancelling forthwith all courses where Police Officers are being taught to be good little MultiCultis and sending them straight off to the front line to do a bit of good old-fashioned thief-taking.
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"rising anti-European sentiment across the many member states, with parties such as the True Finns coming to power" How can one taker seriously an article which cannot even get very basic facts correct? On the last occasion that I had the privilege of meeting Timo Soini he has just refused to participate in what is now the 6 way coalition governing Finland. His party is most certainly not in power. The new government is Europhile and has agreed to hand over its Taxpayer's money to prop up the various bail-outs. In the spring it advanced from 4% at the last election to 19%. In the meantime opinion polls have shown the True Finns advancing to 23-25%. You go figure it out.
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"Just for the record the WoodFuel post is a little inaccurate. The post is jointly funded by the Forestry Commission and Leader, an EU agency. WSCC and the Council Taxpayer contribute not one penny." So, the money is not Council Taxpayers' money being wasted by an elected and accountable council to whom the denizens of West Sussex could give the Order of The Boot if they so choose, but is Taxpayers' money being wasted by a foreign, unelected and wholly unaccountable official who answers to the Brussels Diktat. And that's good news?
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One might note that the BBC has the TUC Riot as 6th item on its front page online just now.....below the death of failed Democrat Geraldine Ferraro Perhaps someone might remind us of Fatty Pang's plans for the BBC? Er....."pluralism is good" Keep on taking the Tory Stupid Pills
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Well, you cannot say that you were not warned - in spades - of the consequences of allowing the Lisbon Treaty to become law by the gutless inaction of Dave and the rest of the Old Political Class. Now the bills fall due. I predeicted here, I recall, that the Euro Nabobs would use the period immediately after ratification and, in particular, the telegraphing of the deliberate back-burnering of 'Europe' by Cameron and Hague as a time to press forward as hard as possible with the further construction of the EUSSR. I seem to recall that some of you were very vocal in your denial of what was being predicted. Gone a bit quiet now, haven't we? And by the Lord Harry, von Rumpy, Barroso and Ashton have delivered on our expectations. I now work in Brussels for the one party that is going to benefit from all this. Every week, every day even, a new outrage is perpetrated by the Euro Junta that is pure UKIP propaganda. I watch with fascination the voting lists at Strasbourg as your gang of Europhile MEPs (with the most honourable exceptions of - in no particular order - Deva, Hannan, Kamall and Helmer) troop, metaphorically, into the "We Love Lots More Europe" voting lobby and, whilst decrying utterly the consequences of such folly, contemplate the benefits that accrue daily to UKIP of such behaviour. This is not least because each and every one of our predictions tends to come true most days. Now Dave et al. can see just how utterly powerless they are to stop Le Grand Projet and just how damaging it is to the British national interest. Yet a single sentence could have stopped this all in its tracks and would, ultimately have been less painful: "let's have a referendum on Lisbon, come what may!". Well, Dave blew that one good and proper. I would like to think your new chum Clegg might squirm with embraassment at some of this stuff, but of course they actually think it is in the national interest. We are so pleased for you in your choice of new chums. So well done...keep on taking the Stupid Pills!
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Motoring organisations angry at plans to charge people £250 a year to park cars at work http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/7959710/Motoring-organisations-angry-at-plans-to-charge-people-250-a-year-to-park-cars-at-work.html Inevitably most employers will pass this on to their employees, many of whom will live and vote outwith the constituency/council where their employer is based. Quite apart from it being a tax on employment (and a stiff one, too) it will effectively be taxation without representation as the commuter will have no vote in the council ward wher he/she works and cannot thus register his/her complete dispproval at what is no more than another stealth tax. That a Tory led adminsitration should be urging this is a disgrace. But then we are seeing clearly that, with your new chums, The Tory party knows no shame. Bearing in mind that everyone who works is a potential voter, plundering another £250 without so much as by-your-leave seems a witless way to secure re-election. Doh!
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SO: Redistributive, Europhiliac, soft on criminals, a woffle as immigration policy, destructive of the security of the UK, lots of aid for foreigners, ever increasing public-spending, rising taxes........ Thus does the Tory party meet its end, with a whining Socialist whimper. Keep it up and we might have a proper small state/low tax governing party sooner rather than later.
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What do we all think of the Party's New Chums? Just the sort one wants to have shoulder-to-shoulder in a tight spot? Solid, reliable chaps? One for all and all for one? Just thought I would enquire................
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"The Elephant in the Room is: in the event of a hung Parliament, how will the Tory Party (with a leadership which claims to be Eurosceptic and a prospective intake which is allegedly very Eurosceptic) agree a programme for a parliament on EU policy with the committed Eurofanatics of the Lib Dumbs?" Discuss. My own view is that the party as a whole will be unable to stomach going into coalition with the party which always votes "More Europe". And if it does, the only beneficiaries will be UKIP.
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Ah the joys of well-argued, reasoned debate........ Are you sure that the number of people who would wish the UK to be governed by their fellow citizens is "a tiny minority", given that 2.46 million voted UKIP at the Euro Elections)? And looking at the balance of comments on ConHome about matters European, I should perhaps enquire politely if you are sure that you represent the majority? I think we should be told.
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"If only the party leadership had simultaneously talked about Europe" With respect, Cameron has talked about Europe. A lot. The problem is that the lot he has talked about has repelled us. What he talked about was to welsh on his promise to have a pop at Lisbon and then talked an awful lot (of guff) about how he was going to take power back from Europe, none of which anyone believes. And talked a lot about preventing further transfers of sovereignty when there is precious little left to give away. Then he talked a lot about Europe to Marr, saying he believed it was in Britain's interest to be in the EU and how he was not going to allow an In/OUT referendum on the EU because he didn't much fancy the idea. Having talked a lot, people have understood the message: if you are a genuine Eurosceptic (not the sort that simply says it is Eurosceptic depending on the audience) then this Leadership is not for you. Cameron and Hague have signalled only too well that they intend to do zilch about the EU until sometime shortly after hell freezes over. And Cameron had the brass neck to wrap himself in the flag and call for the removal of Brown as patriotic duty when he at the same time thinks it best for unaccountable unelected officials to make 70%+ of UK law. And as the alternative strategy has been to woo the Lib Dims, whose idea of Europe is, "Yes, lots and lots of it, please!!", yet more potential Tory voters on the right have been driven off and will either not vote or will turn out for UKIP. The biggest noise just now is people making for the exit. Having thus made it abundantly plain he does not want us, we might just oblige hiim.
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Au contraire he is merely articulating the distaste of many genuine conservatives (with that small 'c' that has become so much more prevalenty of late) for some of the Pinky Blue rubbish that emanates from Dave's brain. What the Shadow Cabinet find so upsetting, so galling, is that, with clarity and needle-like precision, Our Norm identifies and excoriates a whole range of 'modern' Tory brainwaves (sometimes labelled 'policies') in such a way as to cause said Shadow Cabinet to become a collective of Emperors with New Clothes (for a reminder of which see here: http://deoxy.org/emperors.htm). Others are merely envious that he can say what they think but with impunity. If one looks at His Lordship's blog, just examine the substantial number of comments.......unscientific it may be but the vast majority of the commenters are enthusiastic supporters of his. And they are unlikely to vote Tory this time. They are the harbinger of things to come...... Lord Tebbit is the purveyor of uncomfortable questions to which, with unerring precision, he is wont to supply uncomfortable answers, all of which has Dave's Trusties squirming with embarrasment. And they hate it the more because those of us who thought Margaret Thatcher to have been a 'good thing' view him as her Vicar On Earth. Still, if you are minded to expel Norman, perhaps you could always invite Nick Clegg in as a replacement....
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When Marr asked Dave about the BBC a few weeks ago, Dave, wishing to suck up to the Hampstead Thinker crowd opined that he was a 'great supporter' of the BBC, thus giving them the green light for this sort of thing. Serves the fool right.
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All that is as maybe. The problem may yet well be that, as with the two parties of the left, many folk are no longer prepared to believe a word that is said by the other principal party. To wit, anything which Mr. Cameron might have to say on anything. The decline in the opinion polls of "David Cameron's Conservatives" (might we, whilst we are on the subject, see the bill of sale, please, from the entity once known as 'The Conservative & Unionist Party' to Mr. Cameron and. perhaps, a note of the price paid?) since November last has been striking. In November Cameron welshed on the referendum. He did so using the small print of his promises much as a used car salesman would weasel out of the 90% rust on the body of a used Ford Anglia. Well, the people know all about used car salesmen. I daresay regulars here will point to the absence of an obvious turning to UKIP as evidence that this issue is irrelvant. They may be right. But I have never known the people to be so sullen and contrariwise. I am confident that a lot of natural conservatives with a small 'c' (many of them who were part of the 2.46 million UKIP presence in June 2009) utterly loathe the touch-feely pinky-blue Cameroonism. They loathe the sucking up to the Lib Dems.... They loathe the casual rudeness to decent folk ('the turnip taleban'). They loathe the metropolitan arrogance and condescension towards those of a different, older disposition. They loathe the undemocratic imposition of candidates that may reflect the Leader's tastes but offend any conservative's instinctive inclination towards meritocracy They loathe the arrogation to himself of any say whatsoever on EU policy (I'm right, you're wrong AND stupid). Of course conservatives want a conservative government. But the strong sense one has is of a party which is carefully holding its nose whilst enthusiastically campaigning for a conservative Britain whatever its leader may be campaigning for. That sense had got through to a public which feels that the party nationally does not like the metropolitan political class one bit but is prepared to go along with it for the sole purpose of defenestrsating Brown. Plaudits he may have from the claque......plenty of others will gather up their skirts and go elsewhere. But one's sense is that DC & GO and others of their ilk actually don't care in the least about such folk....they are happier with their new chums in the Lib Dems and Guardianista Brigade. Well may they have joy of their new dinner companions in Notting Hill, but don't expect us strawheads to care very much for the new Chums who are quite simply anathema to many of us. I daresay he mnay well win in the end. But I shall have a quiet fiver on him not being Tory leader at the election after this.
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A propos Clarke's trip to Brussels, is this not a sign 1. that Cameron has utterly abandoned any hope of recovering very many of the 2.46 million who voted UKIP in June to the conservative cause and 2. that an inference might thus be drawn that he too expects a hung Parliament and must therefore appease the Lib Dems with a view to winning their co-operation? Furthermore, is it not also as devastating a blow as one could wish to his Eurosceptic credentials? Many Tories will also view the prospect of a cosy pas-de-deux with the Eurofanatic Lib Dems with utter dismay. They too may now jump ship. It is quite an achievement, is it not, for Her Majesty's Opposition to be a mere 6-7% ahead of what is quite simply the worst government in living memory? And at the moment there seems to be little sign of a riposte....rather Cameron and Osborne seem to be little more than two rabbits caught in the headlights. As for Clarke's trip, Cameron's credibilty on Europe is now and will be for the future utterly discredited. No one will believe a single word he says on the topic. Trying, albeit risibly, to talk tough on Europe, his despatch of Euro Comrade Ken to bill and coo at Barroso and his kind will surely cause Cameron's alleged Euroscepticism to be seen for what it is: a bright shining lie. He must have a death wish.....
Toggle Commented Feb 22, 2010 on Monday 22nd February 2010 at ConservativeHome
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I carefully qualified what I wrote with "if accurate". I await a denial of the existence of or authenticity of the document named as'Action Plan for Candidate Selection in Safe Seats' If the document does not exist or is a forgery, a simple denial will suffice. Until then one might reasonably draw the inference that the document exists and is genuine. If it exists it is an affront to the democratic processes of any political party.
Toggle Commented Feb 19, 2010 on Friday 19th February 2010 at ConservativeHome
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Does anyone have any comment to make on this story: "Tories' secret plan to kill off party dinosaurs A confidential blueprint for David Cameron's controversial bid to impose more women, gays and ethnic candidates on reluctant party activists has come to light. The explosive six-page document proposes the use of subterfuge to end the white, male and middle-class image of the Conservative Party. ..... The document suggests using 'stealth' and stresses the importance of keeping 'quiet' over the plans to ensure more women, ethnic and gay candidates. 'Like a conjuror, we'll get more applause if the audience cannot see exactly how the trick is performed,' the document says &co &co." http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1252145/Tories-secret-plan-kill-party-dinosaurs.html#ixzz0fydbTjar If accurate, is this not a case of the party leadership conspiring to subvert the legitimate and essential democratic processes of the party itself? And does it not suggest that a small cabal now rules the party regardless of the democratic wishes of its members? Might we have the editor's observations, please?
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Further evidence of the financial scorched earth which the Socialists will leave as their legacy. Yet the current timid approach - to call it a policy would be an elasticity too far - of Osborne and Cameron to the issue of how State spending will be vigourously checked and then curtailed (for that we all know in our heart of hearts is what is required) fuels the impression that the party is largely rudderless at the moment on matters economic and fiscal. It goes quite a way in explaining why the flatline is @ 40%. People are not impressed at pusilanimity in the face of the need for robust if unpopular measures. By the by, guess where the BBC has this story.....yes, you are right: buried away on the business page where it is the second story. They know no shame. A pity, therefore, that Cameron gave the BBC the thumbs up recently for this is how they repay you when you try and be nice about all things to all men.
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Article 3.4 of the Treaty on European Union: "4. The Union shall establish an economic and monetary union whose currency is the euro." Notice the word 'shall' in that. That is lawyer-speak for mandatory, obligatory, obligatoire, obligato, & co. It may take the EuroComrades a while but the pound is toast if we remain in the EU. As for Mr. Cameron, we must treat his 'never' in the light of how he treated his 'cast-iron guarantee': not worth the paper it is printed on. By the by, Tory MEPs abstained in the vote to approve or disapprove the EU commission. To such depths has this once great party now been reduced that its policy on the EU should be to vote "Don't know" when it comes to deciding who should exercise power over the former United Kingdom. One hopes that most who pass by here are thoroughly ashamed that the party does not care to have an opinion on who our masters are to be. You have nothing to lose but your chains.......
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Given that in just over 12 weeks time there may be a Conservative government in the UK (in its own right or as a coalition with the Euro-fanatic Lib Dems), might one enquire what the policy is towards any bail-out of The PIGS group of Eurozone nations? Events, as one will recall from 'White Wednesday' (oh frabjous day!) in 1992, can move with lethal speed so Greece and the rest may find themselves going to hell in a handbasket shortly, perhaps even next week. Whilst the UK is mercifully outwith the Eurozone, we may not be immune to any contagion from this potential massacre given Brown's deeply irresponsible debt levels. So what robust message do Mr. Cameron and Mr. Osborne have for us this weekend to reassure the markets that a Tory government WILL take the necessary measures to deal with that debt, even if those meaures involve immediate deep cuts in spending? And perhaps, for the longer term, we might know what the view is on Article 3(4) of the Treaty on European Union?: "4. The Union shall establish an economic and monetary union whose currency is the euro." Given Mr. Cameron's recent reaffirmation of his support for UK membership of the EU, how is it proposed to avoid this mandatory article of the EU's consitution which would on the face of it make adoption of the Euro inevitable and compulsory? Just thought I would ask......
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Here is something to spoil your evening, fellow readers.... "Threat to City of London as EU Parliament seeks to whittle away power to veto Key members of the European Parliament are drawing up plans to whittle away Britain's power to veto decisions by the EU's new apparatus of financial super regulators, a move that may leave the City of London without defence against threatening proposals." http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/7139497/Threat-to-City-of-London-as-EU-Parliament-seeks-to-whittle-away-power-to-veto.html And see my post above in reply to Elaine Turner. BTW if it is correct that The Party has any sort of relationship with Lord Stern (a) the phrase 'laughing stock' comes readily to mind and (b) someone will have to rummage through the long grass to find their marbles..... Has a collective death wish taken hold?
Toggle Commented Feb 2, 2010 on Tuesday 2nd February 2010 at ConservativeHome
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There is a more detailed account in the DT posted @ 1725 hrs: " Threat to City of London as EU Parliament seeks to whittle away power to veto Key members of the European Parliament are drawing up plans to whittle away Britain's power to veto decisions by the EU's new apparatus of financial super regulators, a move that may leave the City of London without defence against threatening proposals." http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/7139497/Threat-to-City-of-London-as-EU-Parliament-seeks-to-whittle-away-power-to-veto.html All of this and more can and will be done by the EU Comrades. They can and will trash London as a major financial centre. They can and will do incalculable harm to the financial and economic interests of the UK and her people. If they are not able to prevent a UK veto on these plans, they can and will simply move the veto goalposts so that the UK can no longer veto such plans. All this and more, much much more, they can do under the Treaty on European Union (TEU) and Treaty on the Functioning of the EU (TFEU) which are the end-product of Rome-to-Lisbon. And there is nothing, short of resiling from the Treaties, that the UK Parliament or anyone else can do to stop it if they have a mind to do it. This is because we are bound by Treaty and International law to them. It is a part of UK law which cannot be changed by Parliament. Parliament, thanks to successive Labour & Tory goverments stripping Parliament of its sovereignty, is no longer master in its own house. All this and more we have been foretelling for years, only to be greeted disbelief and derision. But now our worst nightmares are speedily coming to pass: in the pipeline are the European Public Prosecutor and the 'Corpus Juris' which will sweep away 800 years of the common law. Now the Lisbon invoices are falling due, one by one. Yet Mr. Cameron is determined that we shall remain faithful adherents to the EU. As he said in November on the Marr programme: "Now I think we should be in the EU fighting for the sort of Europe we want. We want a Europe of trade and co-operation, not a superstate, so I do not want an IN/OUT referendum because I do not think 'OUT' is in Britain's interest." Why, pray, is having the City of London regulated out of business 'in Britain's interest'? When you have all stopped squirming with embarrassment at Cameron's enthusiasm for an EU that even thinks of doing this to us, please may we have an answer?
Toggle Commented Feb 2, 2010 on Tuesday 2nd February 2010 at ConservativeHome
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