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Elaine, in 1945 there was a conference in Berlin of all the big industrialists overseen by Himler in which they accepted that Germany had lost the war and funds were put aside for the rise of the Fourth Estate. This was in fact the very beginning of the EU as we know it today as those industrialists became the very business leaders who kick started the present German economy.
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English law is incompatible with continental law and there are many offences that are totally alien to our way of life. It should have been for that reason that we opted out instead of agreeing without thought and we should have stuck to the old way of dealing with requests based upon firm evidence of criminal behaviour.
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Would you buy a second hand car from Cameron, no!
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We are all singing from the same hymn sheet now I notice and everyone I speak to says the same things, the pro European is now a minority beast. Cameron must go and be replaced with a real Conservative leader before it is too late..
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It is simple really, promise to give the people their referendum in the next government and win the next election!
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I am disgusted and will now give my vote to UKIP Now what if the 81 were all to leave the conservative party and join UKIP Cameron would have to get rid of the Lib Dem alliance and get UKIP on board to keep in government, what a wheeze!!!!
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What's the betting that Cameron will remove the e-petition facilty after the furore that this particular one has caused!
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To me the question is simple, do I want to be ruled by a bunch of corrupt politicians of all nationalities or do I want to see my country independant and influencing others. The answer is simple, I want British politicians representing British people making decisions in a British Parliament without fear of a gargantuan European super state over ruling them to our detriment. If you don't like it then just remember one word, freedom!
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You patronising others does not help your particular point of view!
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I cannot believe that anyone in their right minds would want to be part of an ineficient, incompetent and corrupt organisation that robs us blind and then tells us to be grateful.
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Today Cameron faces his Waterloo and although it will not be a close run thing it will signal the end of the road for him. His bullying and patronising approach to this issue, caused by popular public opinion, is an affront to the Parliamentary system and democracy itself. Cromwell took this country into a civil war to remove a despot who tried this once before and although we do not have any Generals with guts anymore I am sure that the voters will hoist this dictatorial Prime Minister on his own petard come election time. Like many Tory voters, I will not vote Conservative again until democracy returns to this country!!! Shame on you Cameron.
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Cameron has put the cat amongst the chickens with his democracy web site and well over 100,000 people voted for a referendum so, if he does not allow it he has undermined Parliament and shown that he cares nowt about democracy.
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That beauty is only skin deep I'm afraid Elaine and I should know, I live there!
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You think what you will Nonny but we pay about £49 million a day, yes a day to Europe and if used on our own people that will heat a lot of pensioners homes, help to create a lot of jobs and ease our debt problems considerably. The people of this country must come before politics Nonny and any party that puts them first and foremost will get my vote, I have joined the ranks of the floating voters as have the majority of the middle class Britons. If you put party first then I suggest you find a comfortable corner in the local pub and just listen to the mood of the day.
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Nearly 200 have visited so far and 90% say yes to a referendum. Sorry if my first e-mail was unclear.
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My MP has a poll on his web site about this and so far it shows that about 90% of constituents/party members polled nearly 200 say referendum 'yes'
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I fear that most of you seem to be missing the point here. It is not the party that is split on Europe that has caused this rebellion nor is it any clever political ploy from within the party system, it is the people of this country! The government were instructed, yes instructed to hold a debate on a referendum because considerably more than 100,000 members of the public voted on Camerons flag ship democracy web site for there to be one. Such was the number of public votes that it would be impossible for ANY government to ignore this issue now. If Cameron uses the whip or if this is obstructed in any way he is finished basically by his own hand. Better to let Parliament and the majority of the British people, over 80% agree with this referendum, decide but to not do so will only result in an explosian of anger that frankly could them mushroom out of control. All you politico's of whatever party should wake up and in the immortal words of Lord Ashcroft, smell the coffee!!!
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I fear that there are too many Europhiles in the modern Tory Party and I expect that they have migrated from the don't know or don't wash elements of society. Our involvement with Europe is at present totally unatural and will not stand the test of time.
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I think you should wind your neck in matey!
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But exploiting the system still leaves it in place and when it is corrupt or incompetent or both then it takes those with the will to change the system to succede.
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