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Finally a sensible opinion on this topic. I agree that for indie artists like myself that Windowing is most likely NOT a good idea. But for Major artists , it is the right thing to do. What I have taken issue with in the past is soothsayers who decry windowing as bad for all artists and everytime a major artist has a success with windowing, they call it a fluke and warn the music industry not to take too much stock in it. They sound like plants for the streaming services that are afraid that more major players will follow suit.....Once again it's good to hear a sensible opinion on this.
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Copyright is about the only right that musicians have....without it we have almost nothing else. Without it we are pretty much slaves with no rights. Anyone who tells you that copyright is irrelevant wants to empower the large tech and pirate companies that want to exploit the creative works of others and make tons of money off the works of others and not have to compensate the creators. And I dispise the condescending tone of the author who states "Well first of all your music has to be good enough to steal" He might as well be saying "What you create isn't good enough to steal, so stop wording about it and let everyone steal it already".
Toggle Commented Apr 23, 2016 on What If Music Copyright Didn't Exist? at hypebot
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Wow! I haven't bothered to read Hypebot for awhile now, and articles like this are the reason why. The film industry has shown us for years that windowing works. and the film industry has applied windowing with every new advance in technology. Music needs to also. You wouldn't release a new Star Wars movie on Netflix the same day as in theaters. That would be idiotic. But I am sure the author of this article, would give some BS reason as to why it's a good idea. Hypebot, why do you keep hiring and publishing (and giving credence to) misinformed opinions like this? Why do you keep giving credence to opinionists who keep preaching that music creators must remain marginalized? I will go back to skipping over hypebot for the time being
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After reading this, I decided to find out if uploading a video to facebook would be more beneficial to me than uploading them to youtube and posting them on my wall. I began to google search “facebook autoplay videos”. The first thing I got was an entire search result page of articles and videos explaining me know how to disable Facebook autoplay videos. The second page was filled with more of this along article links of either people asking “How can I disable facebook autoplay videos?”. And articles about how facebook autoplay videos could unknowingly rack up data services charges on mobile devices.
Toggle Commented Mar 5, 2015 on The Video Wars: YouTube vs. Facebook at hypebot
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PS: I should also mention that as a consumer I like Spotify too and have a premium membership. I think spotify needs to give more incentive to it's free users to switch to premium and I don't mean lowering the price but giving free users less access (espeically to new releases).
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Yeah: Icuts75 sums this up beautifully. All that said, If you are not a Major artist it's better to be on Spotify than not be on it. But if you are a major artist it only makes sense to window your album. But what I don't like about this post is that accompanying graphic makes it clear that this is a Spotify endorsed ad and that they are using this bands hard work and success o spin the crumbs they pay. What works for one band or artist doesn't neccessarily work for another and I hate the whole "just sell T shirts" mentality that this post is also unintentionally endorsing. Lastly there music is not being "given away" on Spotify they are being monetarily compensated in some small way but that doesn't change the fact that most of the tech industry thinks that exposure is proper compensation for your work and you should be happy with whatever crumbs you get. People go to Spotify for the music and not the application. Without the content Spotify has nothing.
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Yeah, the line "If this works anyone can do exactly as we've done", should be: "If this works anyone from a world famous band, can do as we've done".....But to be honest there are some folks from world famous bands for which whom, this still wouldn't work for.
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Lately I have been feeling the same as many of Ariel's clients....And while I am not happy that they are having a hard time as well, It's at least good to know that I am not alone. I am also very glad to hear her standing up for Jack Conte. She is right. We should be thanking him.
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The whole "Record Labels Are Evil" mantra started at the same time as file sharing took off. This mantra was used as an excuse to justify online theft. Record labels are neither good nor evil. They are just a business. And (just like you), they will try to get as much as they can for their investment. Those that have done well under a record label didn't make the mistake of thinking the recold label was their mother and was going to take care of them for the rest of their lives. Instead they treated the record label like any business partner and negotioating what was in their best interests.
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She made the right move. The same business model does not work the same way for every artist. For a major artist it makes good sense to hold your new release back from streaming services. (unless they are going to offer you a really good deal to do otherwise). I hope that more major artists follow suit. Without the content, streaming services are nothing.
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@ Johannes: CD baby.com is probably your best bet. I have used them for years. They are very transparent in their accounting or earnings for you and they can get your music on pretty much every monetized platform that is out there in the world.
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Music hasn't been a draw at the VMA's for, a long time now. So the only thing left has been the spectacle of the freak show. Get rid of the spectacle and the ratings will go down. Of course MTV could start being the cutting edge channel for new music.....but that would be silly wouldn't it. :)
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@ ictus75: That's not entirely the end of the story. Just like anyone else a Label wants to get as much for as little money as possible (Don't deny that you're not the same way). The key is knowing how to negotiate the most for yourself when dealing with a label (or having someone in your court who can). Lots of artists who are more business savvey have done this. As for services like Spotify: It's important to step up your activism and work with organizations that are working for you to strengthen copyright law and royalty payments.
Toggle Commented Aug 4, 2014 on Spotify And The Dark Arts at hypebot
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@ Paul Kelly: Yes we should get noisy at Spotify and Deezer, but FIRST go after Youtube Google, There terms are going to be far worse than Spotify etc. Everybody is going crazy over Spotify who does pay, while Google aides and abets piracy and is supporting outright theft.
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@ A Facebook user: Your sentiments are nice, but they are no reason to not make your voice heard in protest of this. If you don't make your voice heard now because you feel that "good music will survive without youtube" than pretty soon all other outlets for people to hear good music will do the same and then before you know.....Good music will not survice.
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@ Choy Facts: PS: Where do you come off saying that the people who use itunes, hate music? When does paying for music equal hating it. Maybe something is getting lost in the translation here; but where I come from paying for music shows that you respect it and you respect the musicians who created it. The people who steal music obviously don't hate it (or they wouldn't steal it) but they certainly dis respect the music and the musicians who create it. PPS: Be glad that iTunes is out there. They where the first major company with any kind of world wide influence that began to stem the tide of illegal piracy. When everyone was saying "I'm never going to pay for music again", they where the only ones to say "No, music has value". When all the record label online stores failed miserably, Apple showed how to do it successfully. The world for musicians would be a much darker place without this.
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@Choy Facts: I'm not knocking using soundcloud or bandcamp to sell music but have you ever thought of using CD baby? releasing a digital single only costs 12.99 US dollars (albums are 49 dollars). It's a one time fee and it includes a bar code and it gets you in every itunes store in every country and in every other realm of paying digital distribution in the known universe including all streaming audio services that pay. They keep track of all your revenue earnings for you and you can view it anytime you want. They also give you stats on who's buying your music (they do other stuff for you too but I wont go into it all here).....No I don't work for them, but I think they are a great deal considering all they do for you. I don't agree with Eddie Cue that music is dying. I just think it's been devalued by online piracy and too many musicians who for too long have been willing to work for free (IE: Exposure).
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Glad to see that David Byrne is taking a stand and trying influence change to the internet for musicians.
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It's good to hear that there are people that care about hi definition music.
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Re: Kanye: Some people will see racism through anything "Happy" deserves to be number 1. The song is infecteous and catchy as hell and the production/arrangment: Instead of burying the song helps to acentuate it and make it even more catchy and infectous. I describe the production on Happy as "What George Martin would do if he where working today".
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Please show this article to anyone out there who justifies piracy under the theory that "The internet has made music worthless, so therefore it should be free". If it was worthless it wouldn't earn these pirate sites so much money. Enough is enough. The US government needs to shut down these sites and imprison the site owners.
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On behalf of all musicians everywhere. Let's hope they bring Grooveshark down.
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Zach writes: "If a user searches Katy Perry – California Girls Free Download, iTunes is not the best result for this release and shouldn’t rank as such". I beg to differ: If someone is searching for a free download of Kathy Perry California Girls, they are clearly looking for a way to get around paying for it. IE: illegally download it. They should be directed to a website that is legal like iTunes of Amazon mp3 etc.
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If it is true than Iron Maiden made the most out of a bad situation. The trouble with this story (if it is true) is that suddenly all the pirate companies CEO's will point to this story and type: "See....We're helping musicians". And they will probably do this from their yachts which they've managed to afford through all the money they've made from profiting off musicians like Iron Maiden (and more) without having to pay them a red cent in return for using their music
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Great article. Whenever anyone tells you that they are offering you great exposure, the reply should be: "No,.....if you where The Tonight show, or the Jimmy Kimmel show etc, you would be offering great exposure....and they would still pay me". What a lot of younger musicians don't realize, is that there was once a time when NO ONE would ever dream of asking a musician to work for free (I know, because I was there). It was just a assumed that you would have to pay for them just like anyone else. It's good to see Hypebot is now publishing articles that are pro musician and that encourage them to stand up for their rights and their self worth. For a while there it seemed like Hypebot was part of the "You musicians are worthless and you should be glad that we even let you live in the same world with the rest of us" crowd. There has been a definiate shift in their publishing philosphy and I commend them for it.
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