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lack of infrastructure for such a complex charging system.....
no capital to pay or to be paid for the charge, of course unless you are going to cover the cost for all the stations required for all the cars and all the associated infrastructure, maintenance, abuse, vandalism, and theft.....
Just saying
Bicycle is a great way of travel...
Nearly 60% of all vehicle trips in US in 2017 were less than six miles
Data collected on one-way household trips by the Federal Highway Administration’s National Household Travel Survey show that the majority (59.4%) of vehicle trips in the US in 2017 were less than six miles. A vehicle trip is defined as one start and end movement from location to location in a si...
Let us look this data was collected.......
60% People I know go 35- 60 miles in a day.
Granted sometimes in less then 10 mile increments, but still travel more than 35 miles a day.
Bicycle is a great way of travel....
Nearly 60% of all vehicle trips in US in 2017 were less than six miles
Data collected on one-way household trips by the Federal Highway Administration’s National Household Travel Survey show that the majority (59.4%) of vehicle trips in the US in 2017 were less than six miles. A vehicle trip is defined as one start and end movement from location to location in a si...
HarveyD - Currently, the majority of hydrogen (∼95%) is produced from fossil fuels by steam reforming or partial oxidation of methane and coal gasification with only a small quantity by other routes such as biomass gasification or electrolysis of water..... Wiser???
Do you work for the oil companies??
Research facility in Dresden produces first batch of Audi e-diesel; sunfire’s power-to-liquid technology
A pilot plant in Dresden has started production of the synthetic fuel Audi e-diesel using water, CO2 and green power—i.e., power-to-liquid (PtL). After a commissioning phase of just four months, the research facility in Dresden started producing its first batches of high‑quality diesel fuel a f...
You have got to love Agenda 21
BASF and Floatility partner on ultra-lightweight solar-powered electric scooter: 12kg e-floater
BASF and Floatility have partnered for the development of an ultra-lightweight and solar-powered electric scooter. Weighing less than 12 kilograms (26.5 lbs) and consisting of more than 80% composite and plastic materials from BASF, the scooter will give commuters the sensation of floating and ...
Over 30% of the gas/diesel stations in our area have already closed due to lack of customers mainly due to more efficient smaller ICEVs and fast growing number of HEVs and PHEVs.
Where did you get this information???
Sandia study finds more California gas stations could provide H2 than previously thought; NFPA 2 code
A study by researchers at Sandia National Laboratories concludes that a number of existing gas stations in California can safely store and dispense hydrogen, suggesting a broader network of hydrogen fueling stations may be within reach. The report examined 70 commercial gasoline stations in t...
I Like to call them the regulators.
They always have been and will always remain...
The efficiency is to get them to see the intrinsic value
With very little extra expenditures. In other words to show that its in the best interest of their bank accounts,always the bottom line...
Humans by nature want to care, but by distraction argue.
Interestingly I am at Lake Havasu City by the London Bridge and have watched 200-400 $80,000+ boats go by in the last 4 hours seem like these folks are doing ok..??
UNECE: claim that diesel on-road vehicles are the cause of increased lung cancer is misleading
A discussion paper published by the United Nations Economic Commission for Europe (UNECE) asserts “with a high degree of reliability that it is misleading to claim that people’s exposure to diesel engines of road motor vehicles is the cause of increased risk of lung cancer.” According to the ...
CARB laws passed in 1974 have worked in the LA Basin.
There are more types of cars in the LA basin today with cleaner air. Quit pretending the CARB Laws didn't work. Look at all the studies publish on green car congress...
Banning personnel preference vehicles (transportation) for any reason is dictatorship... the beginning of the great fall remember Rome...
Start being efficient in all things you do including thought processes.
Thrive...
UNECE: claim that diesel on-road vehicles are the cause of increased lung cancer is misleading
A discussion paper published by the United Nations Economic Commission for Europe (UNECE) asserts “with a high degree of reliability that it is misleading to claim that people’s exposure to diesel engines of road motor vehicles is the cause of increased risk of lung cancer.” According to the ...
A National Strategy For Energy Security
Don't forget to read end.
Imagine the jobs created by converting cars to NG and can't forget maintence.
And not too bad on the air in ppm comparatively, would reduce emission noticeably.
Please don’t forget how much of this resource is being burned off daily WITH NO MANAGEMENT...
President Obama calls on Congress to establish $2B Energy Security Trust for advanced transportation research, funded by oil and gas royalty revenues
Click to enlarge. In an speech at Argonne National Laboratory today, President Obama called on Congress to establish a new Energy Security Trust (EST) to invest in critical, breakthrough research focused on developing cost-effective transportation alternatives. The President had referenced ...
If you live in the USA covert your car to natural gas and save money.
President Obama calls on Congress to establish $2B Energy Security Trust for advanced transportation research, funded by oil and gas royalty revenues
Click to enlarge. In an speech at Argonne National Laboratory today, President Obama called on Congress to establish a new Energy Security Trust (EST) to invest in critical, breakthrough research focused on developing cost-effective transportation alternatives. The President had referenced ...
@ Future driver less e-vehicles + appropriate communication-control system could handle more traffic with higher safety?
Follow me and repeat 27 times?
Then it becomes real!
Its close to april fools
Imagine if humans took driving seriously
Realized it’s a privilege to maneuver an ICE or whatever through life. Not a right!!!
We all share the road and should respect each other’s privilege to move in coexistence with each.
We would NOT need a machine...
Let me see if I get this right You really want the cloud to drive your car.
Honda tests congestion minimization technology on public roads in Indonesia, finds >20% improvement in fuel efficiency
The amount of traffic and pattern of changes in average speed with vehicles equipped with the system. Click to enlarge. Honda Motor Co., Ltd. conducted public-road testing of its new traffic congestion minimization technology (earlier post) in Indonesia and verified the effectiveness of the...
CAFE standards have been in place since 1978.
NHTSA has the responsibility for setting and enforcing CAFE standards.
EPA is responsible for establishing fuel economy test procedures and calculation methods, and for collecting data used to determine vehicle fuel economy and manufacturer CAFE levels.
http://www.epa.gov/fueleconomy/fetrends/1975-2012/420s13001.pdf
EPA annual report on CO2, fuel economy and technology trends finds 2012 heading for all-time best; rapid adoption of new technologies
Adjusted CO2 emissions and adjusted fuel economy, MY 1975-2011. Source: EPA. Click to enlarge. The US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) released its annual report summarizing key trends in carbon dioxide emissions, fuel economy, and CO2- and fuel economy-related technology for gasoline-...
kelly,
Bottom line I can install inefficient cheap solar panels on your house for $5.00 usd a watt right now.
But the production you will see is based on the area of usable sunlight, which at most homes doesn’t pencil out.
This is the truth. Get your monthly bill out, go to any solar calculator put your useable roof area in. See all the upfront costs to install.
I suggest using real world simulations if you need help just say so, I would like all too really understand the value of solar panels install on homes. Will it help? Anything helps; the problem is people that live paycheck to paycheck cannot afford the upfront cost, so the government had to help. In the real world if there was a profit to be made Business would jump all over this.
Right now the side line why businesses are installing solar panels for lease is then they own the carbon credits and now why do companies want carbon credit’s? So they can pollute the air we breathe and not fix their non-compliant plants, all different types of processing plants. Carbon credits are much cheaper than bringing the plants into EPA compliance.
kelly no matter what you think or say this is the truth.
In the end solar panels do create electricity, but at this date the panels that really work patents have been bought and buried ie. Solar PV with thermal cooling transfer these panels were made by a German company and disappeared in one week after public introduction I didn’t save the info on these panels and still kick myself in the anyways.
Yesterday a record was set in solar panel technology thin film panels achieved 18.5 % efficiency.
check al_vins link.
Consortium seeks to show total cost of EVs can be less than combustion engine reference car
EVs for use by Michelin and Siemens staffers in the project. (Photo: Sandra Göttisheim) Click to enlarge. Michelin and Siemens, in cooperation with research partners at Karlsruhe Institute of Technology (KIT) and the Fraunhofer Institute for Systems and Innovation Research ISI, are launchin...
kelly,
Can you please pass the rose color glasses and call me when you have warrantied a solar panel though anyone.
You really have take a look closer at the specification sheet fine print on all panel manufactures.
Than put the numbers togther yourself do not read from a book or the internet
Using all energy used to place the solar array system in service,
The building orientation, real hours of usable sunlight at the location, the correct azimuth, tilt, latitude, longitude and the real efficiency numbers for the panels selected, do not forget the accessories ie. Inverter, switch, cable and the energy used to produce them then using the manufactures information on degradation complete the math.
Oh yea don’t forget the trucks, ships, airplanes, that deliver the equipment to the site and the energy used at warehouse, heat, cooling, fork lift where it was stored prior to delivery.
Remember the whole system took energy to produce and it takes the whole system to produce energy.
Anyone can single out an item and make it sound good.
I sure all this really doesn’t matter to you, but what I mentioned and some that I missed is the amount of energy placed on almost all objects produced from the smallest to the largest.
All this will not be done with batteries or solar or wind alone…
Consortium seeks to show total cost of EVs can be less than combustion engine reference car
EVs for use by Michelin and Siemens staffers in the project. (Photo: Sandra Göttisheim) Click to enlarge. Michelin and Siemens, in cooperation with research partners at Karlsruhe Institute of Technology (KIT) and the Fraunhofer Institute for Systems and Innovation Research ISI, are launchin...
Here is the completed the side note statement
most panel manufactures start the degradation cycle 1 to 3 years into the panel life
Consortium seeks to show total cost of EVs can be less than combustion engine reference car
EVs for use by Michelin and Siemens staffers in the project. (Photo: Sandra Göttisheim) Click to enlarge. Michelin and Siemens, in cooperation with research partners at Karlsruhe Institute of Technology (KIT) and the Fraunhofer Institute for Systems and Innovation Research ISI, are launchin...
kelly here is the wikipedia link on Lifespan
Most commercially available solar panels are capable of producing electricity for at least twenty years.[citation needed][58] The typical warranty given by panel manufacturers is over 90% of rated output for the first 10 years, and over 80% for the second 10 years.[citation needed] Panels are expected to function for a period of 30 to 35 years.[citation needed]
Just a side note most panel manufactuers start the degradation
Please note 90% and 80% of rated output is not efficancy, thee best panel on the market today is rated at 33% efficient and it take 3.3 years to payback the energy used to produce it
Knapp and Jester studied an actual manufacturing facility and found
that, for single-crystal-silicon modules, the actual energy payback time is
3.3 years. This includes the energy to make the aluminum frame and the
Energy to purify and crystallize the silicon.
(K. Knapp; T.L. Jester, “An Empirical Perspective
on the Energy Payback Time for PV Modules.”
Solar 2000 Conference, Madison, WI, June
16–21, 2000).
Consortium seeks to show total cost of EVs can be less than combustion engine reference car
EVs for use by Michelin and Siemens staffers in the project. (Photo: Sandra Göttisheim) Click to enlarge. Michelin and Siemens, in cooperation with research partners at Karlsruhe Institute of Technology (KIT) and the Fraunhofer Institute for Systems and Innovation Research ISI, are launchin...
@ Bell/ATT/NASA first used solar cells in the 1950's, 25 year lifespans are well know. Wind mills/turbines before that.
Lifespans and efficiencies are different; panels can still exist but no longer produce. Wind mills and turbines need to be rebuilt to be efficient. There is an energy cost associated with all of these activities.
kelly your numbers have no meaning they appear to be here-say
Consortium seeks to show total cost of EVs can be less than combustion engine reference car
EVs for use by Michelin and Siemens staffers in the project. (Photo: Sandra Göttisheim) Click to enlarge. Michelin and Siemens, in cooperation with research partners at Karlsruhe Institute of Technology (KIT) and the Fraunhofer Institute for Systems and Innovation Research ISI, are launchin...
Might as well read the report yourselfs.
See who the players really are.
http://www.ferc.gov/legal/staff-reports/2013/jan-energy-infrastructure.pdf
It’s very interesting how some do not want to see things in how many efficient cycles in its life cycle before loss occurs and what are the efficiency ratings during this time. It’s like these manmade objects will last forever and take no energy to create. They will not break and take no maintenance. True costs at this time are unknown. These same people would have us think that these corporations are doing this to save the world, not for profit an ROI and that the truth is saving the world is only a bi-product of corporate greed.
Consortium seeks to show total cost of EVs can be less than combustion engine reference car
EVs for use by Michelin and Siemens staffers in the project. (Photo: Sandra Göttisheim) Click to enlarge. Michelin and Siemens, in cooperation with research partners at Karlsruhe Institute of Technology (KIT) and the Fraunhofer Institute for Systems and Innovation Research ISI, are launchin...
@ I don't care whether anyone finds it "comforting" or not, autonomous cars will not just be *available,* at a certain point they will be *mandatory.*
Since when did this world become a dictatorship and are you buy everyone a car.
Wake up!!! In Garmin we Trust. GPS is purposely made not accurate by the government, How many updates will an autonomous vehicle require to keep all safe headed in the right direction during road work WAKE UP!!!
Teaching Humans to drive properly and respect the rules of the road, learn how their vehicle handles in all road conditions would make this whole discussion go away. While creating real jobs with meaning.
Just Imagine when you’re driving down the road and everyone has comparable driving skills so when it rains, snows, going downhill, going uphill, hey how about this one: stopping at a stop sign, then all can act like license drivers.
WOW what a concept..
GM announces broad global strategy for embedded 4G LTE; first rollout in 2014 with MY2015 vehicles; AT&T first carrier partner
The demo screen of a research Cadillac ATS equipped with 4G LTE connectivity, first shown at the 2013 Mobile World Congress. Click to enlarge. At the 2013 Mobile World Congress in Barcelona, General Motors announced a broad global strategy to deliver a new generation of connected cars and tr...
Lets see Internet, malware, push technologies ie. apps (Find cheapest gas, Sale on items right now near you.) are going to make a car safer?
I drive the 405, 53 miles one way every day where drivers dont understand merging means leave room to let another car onto the freeway. Maybe there will be a app.
@
Does anyone not realize that car connectivity is here to stay, and development of driver-assist systems are well underway to take care of 'distracted driving" permanently?
Total autonomous cars, sleep until you arrive at your designation the car will wake you up.
That is a comforting thought.
GM announces broad global strategy for embedded 4G LTE; first rollout in 2014 with MY2015 vehicles; AT&T first carrier partner
The demo screen of a research Cadillac ATS equipped with 4G LTE connectivity, first shown at the 2013 Mobile World Congress. Click to enlarge. At the 2013 Mobile World Congress in Barcelona, General Motors announced a broad global strategy to deliver a new generation of connected cars and tr...
For thee elite rich kids (not Obamas $250,000 a year rich) to play with and to be green.
you know GREEN so they don't cause Global warming.
What else.
McLaren to introduce P1 production-ready 900hp plug-in capable hybrid supercar at Geneva
Powertrain of the McLaren P1. Click to enlarge. McLaren Automotive will unveil the production-ready version of its P1 plug-in capable hybrid supercar at the upcoming Geneva Motor Show. (McLaren had introduced a design study version of the P1 at the 2012 Paris Motor Show.) Deliveries are expe...
Read about the Honda FCX Clarity FCEV price of $600.00 USD per month for 3 years which includes collision coverage, all maintenance and roadside assistance.
As it is still available only for leasing, and only in Southern California, where public hydrogen refueling stations are available.
Honda has a vested interest in California and seeing this through.
I have followed the life of this car and Honda has spent $$$, they are working on a home filling station. The FAA might not license their Jet but California wants their car and they want their returns.
Don't think that Honda hasn't been bending Jerry Brown's ear: California Governor’s Office releases 2013 ZEV action plan; 1.5M ZEVs on CA roadways by 2025
California ARB proposing amendments to Clean Fuels Outlet regulation to ensure adequate hydrogen fueling infrastructure
The California Air Resources Board (ARB) will conduct a public hearing in June to consider adopting amendments to the Clean Fuels Outlet (CFO) Regulation with the intention of ensuring an adequate hydrogen refueling infrastructure to support the introduction and growth of hydrogen-fueled vehicl...
HarveyD
Who is paying you? Are you able to read a published paper and understand it? Otherwise you should write to Anthony S. Wexler and Kent Pinkerton and tell them why their study is flawed. Have you ever lived in California?
UC Davis study identifies toxicity of particulate matter from specific sources
The California Air Resources Board and the Electric Power Research Institute (EPRI) released a report they commissioned by investigators at the University of California, Davis that looks at how to distinguish health effects caused by different types of fine and ultrafine airborne particulate mat...
The Law of Conservation of Energy
Energy in a system may take on various forms (e.g. kinetic, potential, heat, light). The law of conservation of energy states that energy may neither be created nor destroyed. Therefore the sum of all the energies in the system is a constant.
Just keeping it real and trying not to be incomplete or bias.
You have got to love Science, Math and Physics.
Study finds urban waste heat affects temperatures across thousands of miles, warming some areas and cooling others
The waste heat generated by everyday activities in metropolitan areas—which is distinct from the urban heat island effect—alters the character of the jet stream and other major atmospheric systems, affecting temperatures across thousands of miles, significantly warming some areas and cooling ot...
BW - let’s keep hoping, but the jobs and the technology being developed locally would be better than hoping.
As for shipping you might like this fact, Ocean freight costs about $30 a short ton (0.91 metric tons) to send hay to Asia from Los Angeles, compared with $53 to truck the crop from southern California to the center of the state, according to Greg Braun, the president of Border Valley Trading LLC, you can check it out
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-09/hay-cheaper-to-ship-to-china-than-california-hits-dairies-freight-markets.html
Oh by the way I learned this from Green Car Congress MM tweet
TT - just keeping it real :)
GM CTO says company accelerating electric vehicle development in China; R&D focus on batteries and lightweight materials
General Motors is accelerating the development of electrified vehicles in China, Jon Lauckner, GM Chief Technology Officer, vice president of Global Research & Development, and president of GM Ventures, said in a presentation at the FISITA 2012 World Automotive Congress in Beijing. In Septemb...
A White House report sent to Congress in August 2012 estimated the sale of the remaining G.M. stock acquired by the United States Treasury during the company's bankruptcy would result in a loss of $25.1 billion to the American taxpayer. The total cost to the taxpayer will be determined after the government sells its 26% stake in G.M. and its 74% stake in Ally Financial, formally known as GMAC, G.M.’s financing arm.
Just keeping it real.
GM CTO says company accelerating electric vehicle development in China; R&D focus on batteries and lightweight materials
General Motors is accelerating the development of electrified vehicles in China, Jon Lauckner, GM Chief Technology Officer, vice president of Global Research & Development, and president of GM Ventures, said in a presentation at the FISITA 2012 World Automotive Congress in Beijing. In Septemb...
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