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I don't think sin involves deviance from a divine archetype, but rather deviance from a personal divine revelation that unfolds moment by moment based on our faith. It is what convicts Paul of his thralldom to slavery. I see grace as boxing this slavery from two sides--immanently affordable (thanks to your insights here!) and available to overcome our sin after the fact. My argument for supernatural grace is entirely metaphysical, and thus the relation to the idea is purely conceptual. Immanent, natural grace is experiential, and thus psychologically relevant. I see no theological overlap between the two, and thus supernatural grace shouldn't affect receiving natural grace. My understanding is this difference can assuage your wariness of supernatural grace hindering our reception of natural grace, which constitutes our relation to our desire-laden subjectivity and to God (again, thanks for the insight!!!).[it's more than likely I misinterpreted you here, b/c I'm unsure of what your last line in part 4 means "feed into the logic..." My understanding of reality is both theistic and nontheistic. I see our God as the emergent Almighty, the one True God, arising "out of" Buddhist nontheistic samsara--like the Buddha reaching Nirvana, only as the Almighty God that "caps" reality that is "based" in your transcendent multiples--by purely natural processes of merit accumulation. I see this God as the personification of Love, implying both justice and mercy, and whose primary agency is derived from the willful navigation of justice and mercy, in the role of God to people in our theistic reality. In this sense, I see God as the monolithic, willful (and thus capable of both unresistant giving and entirely withholding gifts) analogy to your multiple, transcendent and irreducible immanent forces, only as residing "above" reality rather than "below" it, if you will. I see our theistic reality as pure Creation, yet infused with sin and those "sown by the Evil One", as I see Adam's fall as forcing karmic judgement on God's otherwise perfect, and thus entirely a-karmic, creation. I further posit that this Fall grounded Creation, God's realized Vision, in samsaric reality, which then allowed incarnations of spirits who don't have God's "touch" in them, who came from the Buddhist samsaric realm within which God's reality is now situated. [To me, this makes sense of the predestination language in the Bible, reconciles Hell with a Benevolent God, and makes sense of Jesus as a Savior to All] Consequentially, it seems to me necessary to posit a supernatural grace to save us from our samsaric location in addition to the natural grace giving us the spiritual fortitude to resist sin. I'm sure your familiar with the Buddhist requirements for samsaric (i.e. natural) heavenly realms, and given that likely less than a handful of Christians have historically met that benchmark, I find super-natural grace definitely necessary for a super-natural (eternal, with a super-natural God) heaven. That's all remarkably unclear related to your question. I see our reality as theistic yet requiring reconciliation because of the metaphysical change of "location" resulting from the Fall. I see Created Reality forced to leave God's...mind?, as a result of sin, and thus needs karmic and moral absolution for reconciliation. I guess I see reconciliation as more complex than simply God "accepting" humanity. I don't think God wants to reconcile Buddhist, non-theistic reality, as 1) I don't think it has bounds or limitations, and 2) it's inherently loaded with impurity-->evil and good are in equal proportions (ying-yang): thus Creation. I wanted throw in Buddhist metaphysics of mind in there as well (as a consequence of the Fall), which to me further evidences the location of Creation within samsara (or at least subjected to the rules therein) and necessitates a supernatural grace to literally lift our spirits from our current existential location and to liberate our minds from karmic law, which would otherwise have us reincarnate somewhere not pretty. Finally, sorry for the lack of concision and long drawn out sentences! And don't hesitate to absolutely demolish everything I say here. Thanks.