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Just a word that "The Professional Left" is our podcast and as such should not be confused with emoprogs. We're not Obots or Emo Progs but we're not centrists either. We're Democrats. And we want a Democrat in the White House. Anyway, i-Tunes or're getting lots of enthusiastic listeners.
Toggle Commented Jul 25, 2011 on Halt, Hammerzeit! at A Chicken Is Not Pillage
Excuse me graysheepdog, are you quoting the TITLE of a LAW to say what it MEANS? Really? The Patriot Act was passed after 9/11/2001. After Clinton, so yeah, there was no possibility of repealing it during Clinton because it wasn't a law. There is now. And herdzcatz I could not care less whether the President is Republican Democrat Green Party or the Party of No. The federal government does not have the right under our Constitution to SPY on its citizens, except that under provisions of "The Patriot Act - Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act of 2001" they DO. And it is CONSERVATIVES who have all of a sudden woken up to just how awful that is. Why can't you guys see that I'm agreeing with you? NO President should be able to do what Bush did (Google "Telecom Immunity" and see why AT&T wants immunity from prosecution-- they broke the law because the Bush Homeland Security Dept. told them to) and what you say Obama is continuing to do. We must stop him and all future Presidents from taking steps against the citizenry through this act. If you can't step up to the plate and admit that under Bush, who is no longer President (thanks for the tip), Constitutional rights of the citizenry were taken away and we MUST take them back again by repealing the Patriot Act, get off the stage and out of this thread. I have no time for you. I'm going to post most of this thread at my blog tomorrow morning. My readers will get a big kick out of it. Thank you.
Okay so the Bush guy in Indiana thought he could subpoena IP addys to find ecoterrorists. Good research, graysheepdog. The bottom line of this whole argument is the Patriot Act is a violation of ALL Americans' Constitutional liberties. I'm still waiting for a response to my offer that all bloggers left right whatever join in an effort to overturn the Patriot Act. It was wrong when that guy-who-isn't-President-anymore pushed it through, and it's wrong now.
graysheepdog that's thirteen days before Eric Holder was sworn in as AG. Bush isn't President any more but the allegation and request are from a Bush appointee in Indiana. I would love it if this blog and Hot Air would work vociferously for a repeal of the Patriot Act. We could join together on this, left and right. Happy to. Seriously, I'm in. Let's repeal the Patriot Act.
According to the article you linked, this request from the Justice Department happened in June 2008. Obama had not even received the Democratic Nomination at the convention yet. Seriously, Pamela, I hope you will continue to pursue this, and find out exactly what Michael Mukasey, Dick Cheney, and George W. Bush were looking for, in complete violation of our Constitutional right of privacy.