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"If you value fairness in the workplace" ....do some companies in the States not do this then?????
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Surely the inherent problem with mobile is that if the user experience isn't great (lose signal half way through filling out a form/find navigation an issue/pages take too long to load etc. etc.) then most sensible people will, once bitten twice shy, stick to the much bigger screen and reliable functionality of a PC? Or am I living in the dark ages? If I were looking for a job, nothing in the world would make me even consider applying via a mobile channel. It just seems daft.
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Talent community, schmalent community. It's just another buzz phrase invented by people out to make a few bob. Fact is, when it comes to careers, people are essentially out for themselves and tend to play their cards close to their chest. Also, many of the best people don't seek, they get sought out. The notion that people who are good at what they do have the time or inclination to sit around navel gazing in some open, caring, sharing forum where they can expose their aspirations or intentions with a bunch of strangers or schmooze with a potential employer in the vague hope they may one day land a job with them is a total pipe dream. In the not too distant future someone else will invent another buzz phrase and talent communities, pools, call them what you will, will be consigned to unsuccessful history.
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Thank you Stephen. I tweeted this recently. I thought it was quite profound. Did it get retweeted? Did it heck! "If tv advertisers cut & pasted product descriptions & put them on screen for 30 secs would you buy the product? Job ads need an allure too"
The research is bound to be a bit skewed in favour of job boards given it's commissioned by - a job board - but there are many good boards out there so there's no reason why, as long as they exist and adapt that people need to flock to social networks in their droves. In many instances what gives recruiters the impression that job boards aren't working is when they run awful advertising, either cut & pasted job descriptions or copy full of grammatical errors like 'Our client are looking' and then wonder why the response is so poor. Like any advertising, recruitment needs to sell the company and the role and have some kind of allure. As long as there are recruitment consultants around who fail to grasp that very simple fact you will always hear the cry 'job boards are dying, social media is where it's at'. No, it's not necessarily, some recruiters poor job ads have just migrated to a different pasture and the long term response will still be the same as it is on job boards - poor. if you want decent candidates, run decent advertising.
No mention of job ads Andy? I agree that it is paramount to make a good first impression and set the right tone but this is particularly important in recruitment ads. Each and every ad should address its target audience. If you're recru9iting for a senior level Accountant say, you'll use a different tone to that you would use to address potential first jobbers. As I say time and time again when talking on the subject, you only get one chance to make a good first impression, plus every time you put out any form of communication, be it a website, a brochure, a job ad or even the simple business card, you are making a corporate statement. The online job ad is one of the best opportunities to put an organisation in a favourable light but amazingly so many recruiters don;t take advantage of that opportunity. Instead, many produce a badly thought through piece of copy, often a cut and pasted job description that has absolutely no allure,is often full of typos and bad grammar which shouts 'we haven't got a clue about what we're doing' and makes potential quality candidates think to themselves 'if they can't get the basics right, there is no way I am entrusting my career aspirations to them'.
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There is often no 'connect' even at the most basic level - the job ad. Here's a gem for a Marketing & PR professional that I spotted earlier today. http://twtjbs.net/atoPzh Who in their right mind would want to connect with the firm advertising that role? If recruiters in particular can't get the basics right (i.e. satisfy the AIDA (attention, interest, desire, action) of the job seeker) then clearly they will always struggle to connect.
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I also agree entirely. Some people are trying to reinvent a tried and trusted process that really doesn't need reinventing. The only advocates of change seem to be the ones who have some commercial gain to be made out of changing the way things are.
I read somewhere the other day that burglars were cashing on on people broadcasting the fact that they were out and about somewhere. That's another thing. With every new technological concept there comes another scam or a crime. That case only yesterday. Bogus credit cards, stolen simcards. The people very cleverly set up a premium phone line at £10 a minute, phoned it for a month, billed the network providers, got paid their share then disappeared. They got them in the end but there'll always be someone out there looking at ways of making a few bob at others expense!
Matt I don't hate technology, I just hate hyped up and endlessly plugged technology. Google Wave anyone? There are hundreds of apps being invented/ developed every single day but come on, how many do we actually need? Do we really want to turn everyone into frenzied texting, tweeting, poking technology reliant people who are oft on the verge of a breakdown and can never forgive themselves purely because they forgot to 'foursquare' where they are? Technology is great, but it is taking over too many hours of too many people's lives. Just look around you on a train, in a cafe, in the street. If I had the benefit of foresight rather than hindsight I'd have started up a mobile network provider service years ago and would be laughing all the way to the bank courtesy of the 60 million+ SMS messages alone that the UK population send to each other every day. I really do draw the line at the need to know where someone I barely know is at any given time of the day. It reminds me of the guy in the Woody Allen film 'Play it Again Sam' - "For the next two hours I'll be on Alaska 2429. That's Alaska 2-4-2-9" - in fact it was a running joke throughout the movie that he couldn't go anywhere without having to let someone know where he was. Did Woody know something all those years ago? That's the side of technology I hate. Where's the down time? The respite? What did we do before we were wired 24/7? We chilled, that's what.
I don;t care how sexy, innovative, revolutionary or otherwise it is, it is still a pain getting inane tweets from people saying "I'm in The Kings Head and I'm the fecking mayor" Grow up! And as for acting as a recommendation engine, enough of the mystery has gone out of life already. I prefer to remain the judge of where i should go and what i think of the place. Finally, Matt "It allows people to meet up with each other" - who knew? I've never actually met anyone anywhere before, ever. I shall subscribe to Foursquare forthwith!
"Facebook is for me and my friends only" This phrase is key to me. Many advocates of facebook as a recruitment vehicle will tell you of its 500 million members (how many are lapsed I wonder) and how it is set to have over a billion anytime soon, but, by and large, wherever I look or ask the answer is pretty much always the same, namely "Facebook is for me and my friends". Who cares how many members Facebook has? It's what they are on there for that matters. Making out that facebook is going to be great for recruitment is like saying the UK's leading high street chemist should sell cars because they get far more visitors than the local garage. No, people go to a garage to buy cars and a pharmacy to get medication or shampoo or whatever. Never the twain shall meet! Imagine years ago when all we had was the little old chat messenger that every few minutes you got a message from a recruiter saying "hey, you. Looking for a job?" Er, no right now I am chatting to my friend. I tell you what, of I want to look for a job I will go to one of the many tried and trusted outlets that already exist, or maybe I'll be lazy and just do a google search by putting in a job title and location. Who knew it really is that easy? Everyone except Facebook it seems. Trust me, Facebook and recruitment should not mix. You will never get the best candidates from there, no matter if they get people from other universes hearing of how many members they have got and deciding to join the party!
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Sorry to hear about your brother Andy. I know how you feel. I lost my brother just over two years ago, to skin cancer that was diagnosed too late. Out of the blue he was given 8-9 weeks to live and lasted 11. He left behind a wife and two teenage daughters. I can also sympathise with missing the ability to have a rant after a sporting event. We were both Palace fans too so ranting was kind of a way of life. He was also a keen golf, cricket and rugby fan. indeed we played cricket in the same team and 'golfed' together since we were children. I knew he was ill when he told me he had a week off work and I asked him why, as he always used to, he didn't get in touch for a round of golf. He told me he didn't have the energy. I knew then he was seriously ill. 4 days later he got the diagnosis. Few days pass by without me thinking or dreaming about him. I am consoled by the fact that maybe he's now with our dad, who died 38 years ago when we were both very young. Indeed it was that life changing event that has given me the strength to cope with most eventualities since, but losing ones brother is still a very tough one to deal with and it's great that you are doing something positive to not only raise money but to remember your brother by. I am sure he'll be watching down on you.
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Who is anyone on Twitter to say "I am the truth" though? People disagree with your opinion sometimes. Shit happens. Shouting and ranting is one way of dealing with it. Saying 'if you're sensitive don't follow me" is another, but frankly after the novelty value wears off, getting critiqued by you, or anyone else with a bit of a bull in a china shop approach is of no significance, because if you (or they) were that much of a guru on these things you (or they) would be out spreading the gospel according to..., not on twitter all day 'critiquing' others and bitching when someone disagrees. At least that's my take on it. I am prepared for incoming but I honestly thin you take yourself way too seriously sometimes.
Toggle Commented May 20, 2010 on Critiquing People Online at Recruiting Animal
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Recently on Twitter I read a piece that sounded vaguely familiar to me so I did a search and sure enough, it was an almost word for word rehash of an article I myself had read a few months ago. I tweeted the person concerned and said that I thought I had seen the article before and they may want to be wary of being accused of plagiarism. I got a reply back thanking me for spotting it and saying that they had commissioned a freelance writer to write an original piece and were not aware that the article they had provided - and charged for - was in fact a cut and paste off the web! I believe the freelancer concerned was the subject of a sacking. I didn't mean for anyone to lose their job, but it just goes to show that there are some chancers out there who are not only too lazy to create their own content but cheeky enough to charge for a rehash!
Couldn't agree more. As someone who has managed many recruitment advertising accounts for private and public sector organisations who understood the value in producing enticing copy that sold both the role and the organisation whenever they advertised, it amazes me to see the plethora of cut and pasted job descriptions thta literally infest the web these days. No wonder some think that job boards are dying. It's not the boards that are at fault though, it's the people who are posting totally unappealing copy that has no allure or mystique about it whatsoever. Maybe today's dashing young recruitment consultants have no concept of advertising and just think that a quick chopped up job description posted on the web is a licence to print money. It isn't. For the consultant that wants to make a real impact with their job board copy, I offer you this free advice. You can put your cheques in the post! http://www.recruitingblogs.com/profiles/blogs/want-to-write-better-job-posts