Funny, I was just thinking the same shit about the timing. How come all of a sudden, all these people from both incidents are wanting to come forward to clear a concious. I mean, I knew the shit would come out eventually, but all this happening at the same time? I 'onno... something smells fishy.

AHHH... aight... now I get that shit. Yeah, I was pretty sure they were talking about Waka, but I can't stand that dude, so, I don't follow him at all. When Royce said "I'm Gucci made", I thought he was talking about the clothes, didn't realize he was talking about Gucci Mane and I didn't know GM put Flocka Wack Flows on, lol. As for the Game/YB line, yeah, I got what Royce was saying, I just thought for someone like Royce, it was a lame punch line, but, at least he says it like it's the hottest shit ever, lol.

Only think I don't like about Hell is that I've noticed Royce has a lot of lame punchlines that he tries to pass off as hot, such as: "here comes the brain fuck/ we the same cuz/ i'm about to fall out with a Young Buck and attempt to fuck the fucking Game up". I'm sorry, but that's lame as fuck. But, other than that, yeah, Hell is definately what cats like you and I have been waiting on for years. Also, if someone coule please explain the lyrics to me: "I'm Gucci made all day like Waka's man"... don't get that... he talking about Waka Flocka? And if so... wtf he talking about? Em says something similar too in the same song... says something about doing something "like Waka's man". So, either I'm not getting what the fuck they're talking about, or I'm mishearing the lyrics.

My biggest problem with Relapse were the accents. If he hadn't have rapped in all those dumb accents, I think Relapse woulda been a much bigger record. If you listen to the lyrics, even though he still wasn't back 100 on point with the lyrics, he was at about 80% and still better than most. The songs and everything on Relapse were fucking incredible and honeslty, that record is WAY MORE DEEP than most people realize. Being a former addict myself, addicted to the exact same things that Marshall was (only, I was just on Vics and Ambien, not Valium) I hear every fucking word he says on that album. That album is really fucking deep in reality, but if you've never been an addict, or never had one in your life, you probably won't get a lot of what he's saying. BTW, X, I been watching you the whole 2 years I been on this site... you always come with intelligence and rational thinking even when I disagre with you and you're one of the few people on here I see that can actually debate and accept a differing opinion. Hit me up on facebook if you got an account... look for Jason Graziano. My avatar is my grandfather's picture, so don't be confused with the picture of the old Italian guy: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002466111987

I, myself, and every rap fan I know missed the fuck outta him well he was gone. Someone once put it to me like this, "Eminem at his worst on a album like Relapse or Encore is stll 10x better than your average emcee at his best like a Rick Ross". Eminem could rap monotone and still be better than half the pathetic ass wannabee's that are actually selling... which tells you how bad music has lowered it's standards.

LMAO @ ANYONE expecting a group with 3 wack emcees to be "the next big thing". Look, man... SH is wack... period. There's a reason that a group with Eminem's backing only sold 12K their first week on their debut effort... CUZ THEY FUCKIN' SUCK!!!! Royce is the only dude in that group that's sick with it. The rest of 'em are wack. Never liked one SH song until Loud Noises, but the fact that I only like ONE song of theirs tells me that they're never going to be a group I'll like and most people don't even know they exist... the only ones that do are hip hop heads.

Seriously, it's a beef between a wack ass wannabe Ike Turner and a group of 3 homo's. The only thing I'll give CB is that dude can dance like a mofo. Until the Man In The Mirror fiasco last year... that performance would have resurrected CB's career if he hadn't have pulled that bullshit fake break down at the end. If he'd have done the routine and sung the song right... it actually coulda saved his career cuz dude did a dance routine in honor of MJ that woulda made MJ proud, HOWEVER... he fucked it up with the pub stunt. Odd Future... I've only seen a little from them and that in itself was more than enough. They're wack.

They are fucking wack, PERIOD. I remember when people said D12 was the worst rap group in history. Nah.. It wasn't even true back then when they said it... now, with this group of ho's coming in the game... it definately ain't true. Tyler gonna be another Kanye. Decently talented, but still overrated, extremely cockey, very lippy and just like it did with Kanye, it's gonna get him in a lot of trouble. I still remember my jaw dropping when I read some bullshit by Ye in Vibe about 2 years ago saying, "I am the end all and be all of music right now"...

Co-sign. Glad someone else is speaking out against this bitch like I am. White people like her, who make a mockery of this music, make white people like me, who have grown up with it, respect it and get it, look bad. I don't even understand who the fuck would sign her? Who the fuck thinks she's talented? I figure 2 of her 15 are up... she should be gone by December, hopefully.

Oh, shut the fuck up you dumb motherfucker. Get outta hear with that racist shit. Now, I won't deny that white people like this bitch who do not put out real hip hop, make white people like me, who grew up with it, understands it and respects it... look bad. But, "we can thank Dre and Em for this"? What the fuck? As if Eminem was the first white rapper ever? I guess you forgot the Beasties? Eminem is the sickest fucking emcee currently alive. So, does this mean that people like MC Shan fucked up hip hop by co-signing wack acts like Snow? The informer dude? Come on, dogg, that was one of the wackest rap songs ever and Snow is one of the most terrible rappers ever, but nobody gave Shan flack about signing him, producing his music, pushing him, writing his shit... Get outta here with that bullshit. How the fuck is Eminem making a mockery of hip hop when he can fucking body 99% of the emcees currently hot in 4 bars?

In most cases, you get creative control by either signing with an indie as she has, or putting out a label-made album, being a success and then you get the creative control. Christina Aguilera is an example. For me, she's the best female singer this side of 1980.. I fuckin' love her... but her first album was full of bullshit pop tracks aimed at making money. When she blew up, RCA let her do her own thing on her terms and she cameout with Stripped, her best album to date.

HAHA... 2 minutes of her 15 are officially over, so, I'm hoping by Dec., this bitch won't be around anymore... and how fuckin' ugly do you got to be as a woman that you don't even look hot simulating a blow job? I'm obsessed with blow jobs... almost any semi-good looking girl looks blazing hot to me simulating a blow job.. this girl don't even look good doing that W/ the librarian glasses on. This bitch and people like her are the scourge of hip hop... that's why acts like her fail after a year.

BTW... also, I want you to remember, since what I said, you know the comment you used to call me a racist... since that context actually was repeated by me after watching Dick Griffey say it on Welcome 2 Deathrow, that means you actually calling Griffey the racist, not me... since he said it on the documentary and I just repeated it, cuz it's true.

FIRST, don't ever again tell me to stop doing something because I'm not going to do, or not do anything because some asshole I don't know on a PC asked me to. Second, my parents actually sent me to this thing as a kid called "school", so I am literate and can type far more than 8 words a minute... it took me less than 3 mintues to type that above... no time wasted. Third of all, it's clear you DID read my entire response and just can't own up to being a bitch, so instead, you just claim I"m not worth your time.. THEN WHY DID YOU EVER RESPOND IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!????

BTW, after re-reading my response to you, it's pretty clear to me that you just realize that I was right in what I said with my educated response and for some reason, have decided you don't like me (someone you don't even know) so you have too much pride to just say "yeah, you right". It's OK, though. People like you convince yourself that you're right all of the time, but in truth, those who are looking at the conversation from a distance can usually tell the idiot without an argument (that'd be you) from the person with an educated, thought out response (that'd be me).

HAHAHA... OH MY GOD... Dogg, you got me rolling laughing right now at your extreme bullshit. I'm laughing at you right now so hard because your sad attempt at taking my words and completely changing them to try to paint me as a racist is seriously so funny that I can't even be mad, all I can do is really just laugh at it. FIRST OF ALL, I NEVER EVER said that white people make rap what it is and I want you to show me where I did. Show me where I typed those exact words. What I said is that white people are the reason that rap music was able to survive and become so popular AT FIRST because, AS DICK-FUCKING-GRIFFEY himself said, "YOU SIMPLY CANNOT SELL OVER 500,000 RECORDS WITHOUT THE BACKING OF A WHITE AUDIENCE"... that's a very well respected and longtime successful BLACK BUSINESSMAN that said that.. not a white one. To take what I said and attempt to flip it to make it look like I said white people made rap what it is is just fucking hilarious, ludicrous and I'm sure a lot of other words fit this incident that I can't even think of right now. No, white people did not make rap music what it is, we just HELPED black people secure it as more than just a fad. No, both fans and artists alike, REGARDLESS OF COLOR made it what it is, because without good music, fans will not support it, but yet, without the fans, you don't have the oppotunity to make that good music.... so the "Thank You's" can be given both ways. Second of all, don't you EVER again twist my words so much that you almost completely make up something I said and then try to paint me as a racist. It don't work that way pally cuz where I'm from, we don't play that color line shit. You can do it to take the focus off your lunacy and idiocy all you want... or at least attempt to do it... but it ain't gon' work with me.

You know, your response is the exact example of what I see to be wrong with about 80% of the posters on this board. Y'all just talk out your ass without even thinking about the subject at hand or what your even fucking saying. Sometimes, I really wonder if some of you people don't just argue just to argue. First of all, no, typically no girl thinks to herself, "I wanna be a hooker when I get older"... you're right on that one. Not in most cases, anyway. You'd be surprised in some environments where little girls are raised, some actually do, but that's the exception and I acknowledge that. However, there are a lot of things that your absent minded response does not address. The fact that some girls grow up in various broken home scenarios and run away from home at an early age and use prostitution as a way of economical survival. Now, the thing is, yeah, those girls had it rough growing up, but prostitution was far from their only choice. Therefore, they chose to run away from home early and they chose to work as a hooker to make money. Those are CHOICES. They're not decisions that this girls were forced into. 90% of girls who are hookers end up in that position for primarily one of a few reasons: a.) ran away from home early b.) just want tons of money, don't wanna work at Mickey D's c.) they like the money it affords with little effort d.) they just like sex, so figure they should make money from it Those are the 4 main reasons girls turn to prostitution. So, don't sit there and tell me that the girsl are forced into this shit. But, you were right about one thing. No girl in her RIGHT MIND wants to be a prostitute. IN HER RIGHT MIND is the most important part of your response. That's just the problem, the girls that do this usually are not in their right mind. So, next time, before you attack someone like me unwarranted, you might wanna really think about the subject at hand before someone like myself schools you and owns you in front of the whole board.

Everyone in life takes advantage of the weak at some point in their life. It's a fact of life. And when you're in the streets, that's one of the primary rules of survival. Can't blame them... as the saying goes "don't hate the player, hate the game". It's just like people in the mafia. You can make the argument all day long that killing is wrong an immoral. But, the thing is, when someone gets in the mob, they know what they're signing up for, so how can you have any empathy for someone who signed up for a certain life? A woman CHOOSES to be a whore and work for a pimp... she isn't forced into that life.

Well, if Wayne says he's sober, I'm sure he means off the harder shit. Dogg, lol, you know that man got THC running in his veins... I think he the only person that smokes more than Snoop, lol. I don't think he meant weed, I think he meant the other shit, but, regardless. If you are a good emcee (like Eminem) and don't need the drugs to write/record, then even your sober shit should mostly be good. However, if you could only write/record good shit high... then you may be in trouble. Yeah, I love pulling on a joint/blunt before listening to music.. you catch shit better for some reason.

There's a lot of differences in that comparison. First of all, Minaj has been co-signed by some of hip hop's elite emcees... this bitch hasn't. Second, Minaj has displayed some level of talent on certain songs and shown that she can spit... she just gotta get off that pop shit. Third, Minaj actually has an interesting gimmick, I think, anyway. She comes out in colorful costumes and wears interesting shit. This bitch is just plain wack. At least with Minaj, there's some songs where she is really good and shows a glimmer of hope. this girl don't.

Fisrt of all motherfucker, don't come at me all crooked like you on some real shit. You on a computer dogg, don't be coming at me like you think you some gangster talking all hard. Nobody acted all high and mighty and I SURE AS SHIT never said rappers owed me anything. I want your punk, bitch ass to tell me WHERE I said rappers owed me anything. Where I say that motherfucker? Huh? Where? Because of people like me? Motherfucker, you don't even know me. I like rap music like Emninem, Royce, Jay Z... I like the real shit... so don't be coming at me telling me I'm the problem with rap music because you don't even know me like that homie, so put a fucking cock in it and stifle that shit real fucking quick, man, cuz I don't play that color shit like some of y'all do. No, actually, people like YOU who try to play that color line shit is why color is ALWAYS going to be an issue in hip hop. Cuz of assholes like your bitch ass.

Oh, yeah? Then tell me why most people think that the greatest emcee on the planet is white...

Well, again, I always figured he was a weed smoker, but, me personally, nah, I never knew he was into anything harder. Definately never knew he was an addict. But, yeah, I'ma tell you, man... I worked in Detroit as an underground emcee from 04-09 and it's sad to say, I think, but drugs really do open your mind up lyrically. No doubt that I wrote my best songs lyrically and had my best flows on days that I'd been smokin' or throwing some V's down the hatch. You take a song that I recorded when I was just high on weed (NEVER recorded sober... always had at least weed) and compare it to a track where I was high on Vicodin, or off a Vicodin/Weed mix, my flow is better, vocal reflection is better, everything is better overall.

I don't even know who was on the list on wikipedia, but I would have THOUGHT that they'd have a detailed list of his beefs. It sounds by your reaction that they apparently do not. Well, I'll give you the fact that it is my bad that I gave you that link without even scrolling down to see who they listed. But, being that it's wikipedia (despite the flack they get, they're pretty accurate) I figured they'd have a more detailed list of his beefs. Well, anyway, even if that list wasn't accurate, it's not my job to give you a list of his beefs. If you want to know, look it up. As for your comment about the "top anything list".. you're wrong, but I doubt you will look up an accurate list of his real beefs by another, MORE RELIABLE source. So, it's up to you and your decision has no affect on my life. You can look it up and get educated, or not and stay in the dark... it's up to you. BTW... for the record, I fucking hate ICP, I cannot stand them, I think they're like the worst rap group ever, but at the same time, they do have hella respect, actually. They've done collaborations with some very respected rappers that you'd be surprised about. I don't get them. I don't like them. Never have, never will. But, unfortunately, they actually do have some decent respect, they're just so quiet that you don't even realize how many people they're actually down with.

It's not about being surprising. It's just about getting the word about about what he's been through. When you're a rapper in his position, of course fans assume you're doing shit. We assume youre toking now and then, popping some Vicodin here and there, maybe snorting a line here and there. Hell, not even hip hop, music in general. Any musician is pretty much automatically suspect because making music and consuming drugs go hand in hand. So, it's not about being shocking, it's just about him getting the word out. Anyway, I feel Flav. I went through the exact same addiction as Eminem (vicodin, methadone and ambien) at the exact same time period ('bout late 04- late 06). It ain't fun and typically, being a drug addict typically fucks your life up so bad that however long you're hooked, it takes about double that time to get your life back. I was an addict for only 2 years, got clean in Nov. 06... this is June 11 and 5 years later I'm JUST STARTING to get my life back.