"Gregory is historically correct. As a member of an offical Local Sub-Committee during NH2020 General Plan, and as a response to an official proposal to inspect all parcels of land for environimantal constrants, a Realtor and I were joking that we should transplant endangered species on the properties of the Delphi Technique-aided proponents as a lark and a lesson, and thence to turn them in to the Apparatchik." Thanks for the information, whoever you are. Perhaps GR can give me a head's up as to your identity.

"Some bunch of fucking patriotic Americans you guys are. You think standing up for some guy who broke the law and cheated on paying his grazing fees is patriotism?" -Frisch 8:20 Bundy represented himself in civil court, since the Feds can sue you into bankruptcy without having to provide you a lawyer... that's only a right in criminal court. From the Washington Post: "March 1993: The Washington Post publishes a story about the federal government's efforts to protect the desert tortoise in Nevada. Near Las Vegas, the Bureau of Land Management designated hundreds of thousands of acres of federal land for strict conservation efforts. "Among the conservation measures required," according to the Post's coverage, "are the elimination of livestock grazing and strict limits on off-road vehicle use in the protected tortoise habitat. Two weeks ago, the managers of the plan completed the task of purchasing grazing privileges from cattle ranchers who formerly used BLM land." Many people were not impressed by the new conservation plan. "Cliven Bundy, whose family homesteaded his ranch in 1877 and who accuses the government of a 'land grab,' are digging in for a fight and say they will not willingly sell their grazing privileges to create another preserve." People who use the desert to prospect for minerals and to race motorcycles and jeeps also feel shortchanged. "'It was shoved down our throat,' said Mark Trinko, who represents off-road vehicle users on the committee that oversees the plan." Bundy has repeatedly been fined for grazing his cattle on the protected land, fines he has not paid since 1993. The Bureau of Land Management, which oversees about 800 grazing areas in Nevada, responded by revoking his permit. Bundy has not applied for a new one." So it wasn't so much grazing fees as punitive fines because he wouldn't sell his grazing privileges or stop the grazing. Frisch, you're wrong. Again.

Mike, how on earth do you condone your own behavior?

Don't let the door hit you on the ass on your way out, Mike. Speaking of creeps, Mike over at Jeffie's has been a duesy, proudly proclaiming his admiration for his bureaucratic forbears and denigrating immigrants who don't love Big Brother federalism.

"That is where you and Bundy are one and the same; you think your opinion, your stupid, emotional opinion, is somehow different and more entitled than any other Americans." Wow, is Stevie projecting today or isn't he?

"and the solution to a law one disagrees with is to change the law" A major tool for changing a bad law is civil disobedience. In fact, if it wasn't for jury nullification and the lubrication of the compound in question, Prohibition might still be the law of the land.

Frisch, if you were winning the arguments you wouldn't be calling people names best reserved for you, Mikey and Brad. Barry, thanks for the Mark Levin link. I thought it one of the most reasoned on the subject to date, and I was surprised to hear he was, for a brief time, the #2 lawyer at the Dept. of the Interior.

Let us remember that it really is turtles all the way down, even with the euthanizing of the endangered critters by their 'protectors' because there were too many of them. "The part he hated was having to deal with the 2% of the population that suffered from mental illness, the crazy radicals on the right and left who threatened him with physical harm and who were willing to resort to violence for their alleged "cause."" -M. Anderson Like that guy who ranted at Debra Saunders over her support of the Bush Crime family, warning her she was being watched? Or that same guy who threatened me and my wife with the same, all for the crime of being a climate brownshirt who might otherwise be emboldened to walk down Broad Street in broad daylight? Sorry folks, but I've been in Clark County, Nevada and not keeping track of the usual ruminants. Frisch has the basics right... in that the Feds stole Bundy's livelihood fair and square, according to law. The problem however, isn't as cut and dried as a deadbeat refusing to pay reasonable grazing fees, as the BLM wasn't so much administering the grazing rights as they were squeezing ranchers out of the business of grazing cattle on the lands that had been used for that purpose for over a century. This wasn't done by an actual law passed by congress and signed by the president; just regulatory creep by the rentless tide of bureaucrats looking for things to do, eroding away at the traditional use that wasn't in favor at the BLM. Boiling the frogs slowly, without good faith. Bundy is apparently the last of 52 ranchers in business in the area, so I'd say his take on the situation was prescient, and that there are adjacent areas where ranchers have not been run out of the business isn't the point. A prominent NV politician has been saying Nebraska and Nevada became states at about the same time, with similar expectations that Federal holdings would be turned over to the states as had been promised. Nebraska is now nearly wholly owned by Nebraskans, but 7/8 of Nevada is still owned by the Feds, and that is probably the largest motivating factor; not that the BLM could take the livelihood of Clark County ranchers grazing on public lands they (and the state and county) were never given the option to buy. Regarding the old mess closer to home, Frisch still hasn't come clean regarding the NH2020 community meetings the SBC "facilitated" for the NH2020 process... towards predetermined conclusions that moved NH2020 forward, in what is popularly termed a "Delphi" process. Or at least tried to move it forward.

"Joe, at Rebane's Fifth Column Ruminations, it's all about the comedy. No shooting necessary, the fish float belly up on arrival." The latest belly floater is Ms. Sibelius for a well done Obamacare. Or at least medium-rare.

Michael, you poor thing, of course it doesn't. On another front, do you think Obama got rid of Sibelius in time?

The phrase Lesser of two evils doesn't literally mean evils, Paul.

"Republicrats are documented evil" That's absolute bullshit, Paul, and should be beneath you.

Paul, even with good 3rd parties, there is a "lesser of two evils" choice to make. For example... the late Harry Browne. Nice enough guy, and I voted for him once despite being a bit lightweight for a Presidential run (call me ultramodern, but I think the time has passed to elect a president who only has a high school diploma). IMHO he would not have been competent in the office. Vote for him? Once? Twice? Thrice? I chose one and done. Time to move on. BTW this choice bears watching, from Master & Commander https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNL0KfD0nts

No, Paul, I wrote what I wrote. No one forces anyone to vote at all and everyone has to decide for themselves who they can stand voting for when looking for the least of the evils on the ballot. Bob Barr was an alternative in 2008 against Obama and McCain, not 2004; too bad you didn't vote for him the first time. The LIB in 2004 was Badnarik, who won the nomination by preaching to the choir who nominated him. Not many others voted for him in the general.

"At least I didn't vote for Obama a second time which I doubt was the case with you with Bush II second time around." -Paul Paul, folks who gave up on Obama part deux had a fine alternative candidate, a former governor running on the Libertarian ticket. GOP voters not wanting to vote for Bush the second time around were faced with Kerry (like that gravitas he's spreading around as not very secretary of state?), an unemployed software engineer or Ralph Nader. Damned if they did, damned if they didn't.

"Perhaps we can start working together to meet mutual goals for our nation again when you guys stop being such evil liars." -Frisch Thus Spake Steven Frisch, CEO of the wretchedly misnamed Sierra Business Council, a supposedly non-partisan 501c3 based in Truckee, California.

Back to Frisch's support for racist college admissions policies (04 April 2014 at 01:59 PM) In the news today, Black and Latino Democrats in Sacramento have torpedoed legislation by Asian Democrats in payback for not accepting a deal that could have resulted in Asian kids getting short sheeted by UC admissions once again. White, black, latino or asian, if you can't get into Cal on your own merits, you (and Cal) are better off if you find a spot where you are a better academic fit, and the best way to stop racism in college admissions is to not allow race to be used in college admission decisions. Is that so difficult to understand?

Walt, I think the phrase you're looking for is "for all intents and purposes", not "for all intensive purposes".

I don't trust "infowars" much farther than I can spit, but a "1st amendment zone" sure sounds like those free speech zones now popular on college campuses. You know, the spot on campus you can talk freely about politics. Here's a proper map of the 1st amendment zone: http://www.50states.com/images/us_map.gif

"By the way unless I missed it it was your 'guy' who wrecked the economy in the first place, but good." -Frisch You missed it. The Government Sponsored Entities that flooded the world with bad paper were Democratic sacred cows, and the program that pushed them into writing home loans that could not be paid back under any known economic theory was a Clinton administration push. Not to mention that when the crash happened, we'd already had a Democratically controlled House and Senate in place for almost two years; it's as much a Pelosi & Reid screwup as anyone else's. Personally, I'll always remember Barney Frank's assurances that Fannie and Freddie (he'd carried their water in the House for years) were great investments going forward, just a month before they caused the financial world to collapse for a time.

Here you go, Brad: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/04/04/bill_maher_there_is_a_gay_mafia_if_you_cross_them_you_do_get_whacked.html The crap thrown a fine engineer just for agreeing with the stated opinions at the time of the likes of Barack Obama and the Clintons is the latest iteration of political correctness raised to the level of fascist brownshirts. Thou shalt not piss us off, or you're next. This might not the best strategy going into the November. Perhaps some of Frisch's friends will even try that against some of those global warming "deniers" they are so keen to silence, but a hint, keep that in the USA. Europeans are already abandoning that ship. To anyone wishing to not run Win8, that XP notebook will assuredly run any flavor of Linux just fine.

"An eye-for-eye and tooth-for-tooth would lead to a world of the blind and toothless" The post Russ made above was copied from http://www.truthrevolt.org/firefox Sorry folks, but I'm not willing to do a Mozillaectomy at the moment. Fortunately, I've never visited "truthrevolt" in the past and if they don't want me there in the future either, that's fine by me.

Scratch that, it's still expired. My Gay Mafia approved browser stored the exception.

If an IT professional (biting my tongue) was wanting to be helpful, they might note one can always allow a temporary exception, as an expired certificate is pretty bloody trivial and probably not an attempt by an evil IT guy from KAOS to take over someone's website. In any case, it appears typepad's cert has been renewed. All is well. Ommmm.

If you don't have the "problem", your browser may not be properly checking the certificate; typepad's expired yesterday. They need to refresh it.