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A genuine desert truck "specialty" wouldn't be possible from a major automaker. They obviously can't have the shocks sticking through the bed, and any harsh vibrations through aftermarket type built-proof joints/mounts would cost them "customer satisfaction". Raptors still have to function as normal F-150s (and Rangers) for the most part, especially for their 1st owners. Be glad Ford offers the Raptor with as many features as it does. It's doubtful there's profit for Ford on the Raptor package, or they wouldn't force a Lariat (trim) level of luxury.
Toggle Commented Apr 16, 2018 on 2020 Ford Ranger Raptor: Spied at PickupTrucks: News
@BAFO - No one buys a fullsize 4X4 pickup to get an "ultimate", no holds, off road performer. And there's much better choices for that than a midsize 4X4 pickup, when off roading ability is an absolute priority. There's always compromises to be made. Anyone will agree it's not all "win/win" with the midsize choice. But the point of Raptors is "high speed" desert running, pre-running race events, or just plain, full sideways rotation, catching air, and other off-pavement hijinks, which Raptors facilitate better than any other, package "turnkey" trucks. $53K isn't bad at all considering Americans gladly pay way more than that for far less capable 1/2 ton 4X4s, but with lots more bling/gadgetry. Except Raptors come in priced at a fraction of what you would pay for a similarly aftermarket modded truck, wide track, wide body and whatnot, plus the added benefit of a full factory warranty and unmatched resale value.
Toggle Commented Apr 14, 2018 on 2020 Ford Ranger Raptor: Spied at PickupTrucks: News
The wide bolt-pattern on the cab-chassis indicates a "class" above the C3500 dually and finally an answer to the F-450 crew-cab dually pickup? This would also separate the (possible) C4500 dually crew-cab pickup and C4500 cab-chassis, from the upcoming Navistar built (GM cab) C5500/6500 cab-chassis. The "driver's side" DEF tank could be cab-chassis only.
@david.roth - Yes Ford is committed to Fleet Sales. But don't be fooled, most of Ford's fleet sales are commercially used pickups plus autos going to government fleets (cities/counties/states/federal/military), including law enforcement, that drive them into the ground and come back for more (buys). When ordering dozens or scores at a time, all identical, they fly off the assembly line, with fleet buyers not at all concerned with perfect fit-N-finish. I know they fix minor warranty-concerns themselves, just to keep them on the road "producing". E-series cutaway vans and F-350 cab-N-chassis', through F-750s are exclusively "Fleet Sales".
@BAFO - You can consider "GMC" a trim package on "Chevy" trucks, and it's a great gimmick, not just because it adds an extra opportunity to sell GM pickups at Buick/Cadillac dealers, but GM's own studies show repeatedly, GMC pickup buyers would never in a million years own a "damn Chevy pickup", as crazy as it sounds. Except it takes two pickup lines, midsize and fullsize, sold at two somewhat separate dealer networks, to occasionally beat F-series sales. Of course you know Ford is coming out with the US Ranger next year. I mean I hope GM steps it up. Soon. Silverado/Sierra pickups are starting to feel really dated, with limited engine choices. Sales totals don't lie.
Synthetic oil? You get it all back from much extended, oil change intervals. I change my oil at 40,000 miles, and if it still looks clean and clear, I'll keep driving it. I'd say synthetic oil is a great investment. It's an '04 F-150, 4.6 V8, 180K miles . Great engines and it burns a quart every 7K miles, same as new. Conventional oil, changed every darn 3K miles is a waste.
The GM 1/2 ton twins combined, usually outsell the F-150 (except '04), but the Super Duty always outsells the GM HD pickups combined, and this despite the Power Stroke.
Fleet pickup truck sales, even to Hertz/Avis/etc, are very good for business. Most fleet pickups go to industry/government/utilities/etc anyway, and they hold on to them until they're driven into the ground. But of the relative few 'used pickups' dumped on the market by airport type rental agencies, almost all are mid-luxury crew cabs, so there's way too many other combinations buyers hunt for, for those ex-rentals to impact resale values. Fleet pickups sail down the assembly line too, scores or hundred of identical trucks in a row. Fleet buyers usually don't complain about quality issues either. If fleet sales of GM/Ram/etc, pickups are down, it's not intentional
The Miata is the next best thing, but there's nothing like a mid-engine compact.
@Eric - The spike in midsize truck sales may have little to do with "people want smaller trucks". They could just as likely be "up sizing" from the compact or midsize vehicles they're trading in. Fullsize truck brands haven't been giving up much market share to midsize trucks, except maybe a few "fleet sales" here or there. But auto makers/share holders are not seeing or forecasting the "volume" sales necessary to clear a tidy profit from compact-midsize pickups. With advanced research, the guessing game is just about taken out of the equation. And car makers realize those screaming the most for "compact-midsize" pickups, are very unlikely to put down a non refundable "deposit" down on a compact-midsize. Just a lot of hot air. I'd absolutely love for OEMs to bring back 2-seater mid-engine, compact sports cars, (Fiero, X19, MR2). I scream, up and down on all kinds of forums, and I'd without a doubt, put one in my fleet, except I'd be buying it *used*. OEMs know compact-midsize pickups are less likely to be anyone's primary daily-driver, more like a 2nd vehicle you buy used.
@Roadwhale - Call it what you want, but small/compact pickup makers got tired of waiting for you and the other roadwhales and vulpii to come back and buy more of them. By the late '80s, you and the others had mostly migrated midsize stuff, especially midsize SUVs. So isn't your Wrangler a midsize SUV?? If you don't call that "abandonment" of the small/compact pickup segment, perhaps "moved on" is a better sentiment. I feel your pain though. I recently went looking to buy parachute pantz at my local mall and stores around the city. Darnit, there's none to be found! Except I know myself and the others that stop buying them are the ones to blame, not the retailers. They're just following trends and 'going with the flow'. Car makers can't possibly make enough money off of compact pickup. Today they share virtually zero platform or drivetrain parts with compact cars, cross overs, etc. Specially since they would be facing a small niche market. The 'numbers' just aren't there. Too bad, really. So build your own trucklette from a modified cross over, or restore and old one. Of course have an qualified shop do it for you, like I'm having a tailor sew up some retro parachute pantz for me, but if you like Rabbit trucks, especially diesels, get one now, as prices are climbing dramatically. They're really cool pickups actually, plus with GTI wheels/parts/mods, they can be a kick too. Seriously though, it's your choice to enjoy life, taking control or be miserable all the time.
@RAM - It's a mathematical equation. "CrazY" to you I guess. Here's as simple as I can break it down: For every 100 (hundred) Chevy Silverados built and sold "new", 5.7 (five point seven) make it to the 200,000 mile 'mark' before they expire, or otherwise taken off the road. You could say, "Cradle to Grave", or factory to junkyard. But if 'decimal points' scare you, you can move them over one digit. Say 57 Silverado survive to 200,000 miles for every 1,000 new Silverados sold. Or 570 Silverados make it to 200,000 miles for every 10,000 new Silverados sold. Say 350,000 Honda Ridgelines were sold in their entire run. How many would it take to 'tie' with the Silverado, as far as the mileage longevity goes? If you said 61,403 Ridgelines, you'd be correct. For some reason that's not happening, or anywhere close to 200,000 miles, but it was possible in theory. Too, we're not finding Ridgelines exported all over the world, as they're sort of stuck here. This is another reason they not good for 200,000 miles, or anywhere close. The "study" in the article is overly simplistic, overlooking key factors that take trucks "off the books" or "off the road" in the US, BEFORE they have an equal chance at reaching 200,000 miles. But don't let math scare you.
@Roadwhale - You uppin abandoned the mini-truck market while the gettin' was still good. You're a perfect example of why FCA is so hesitant to move forward (meaning backwards) with compact, smaller pickups. Smaller compact pickups are better had, *used*. You can't tell me a little 2-seater pickup would be your daily driver. If so, you're way outside the 'norm'. No, most would be relegated to weekend chores, play, yard-sale hunts, warrior of The Home Depots, etc Americans aren't really into buying brand new vehicles that'll sit around, Sunday to Friday, especially since extra vehicles are usually exposed to the elements a lot. And since it's an extra vehicle, the deadbeat brother-in-law is always needing to borrow it for a couple weeks and brings it back all dirty and with an empty tank. Might as well make it a '96 Mitsu Mighty Max or Hard Body, if it has to be small or compact truck.
@Ram, and all others that don't have a grasp on basic Life Math. OK, it'll explain it, typing slower this time.. Out of every 100 sold new, let's say Silverados pickups, out there and still registered/functioning, (again regardless of how many were sold new), 5.7 Silverados have reached 200,000 miles or more. That's 5.7 *Percent* (5.7%) of those sold new. Cent meaning Latin for "100". Or simply put, "per each and every 100". Meaning 5.7 Silverados out of every 100 Silverados sold new, reached 200,000 miles before going to that big junkyard in the sky. Another way to look at is, for every million Silverados sold new, around 57,000 Silverados are reaching 200,000 miles *before* hitting the junkyard. Again, even the Honda Ridgeline is in the contest, so to speak, vs F-series, GM, etc, but likely only 1 or 2% reach 200,000 miles before they're scraped. It could be bad transmissions in them, especially if they just run transmissions straight out of Accords. It also doesn't matter if the engines have been rebuilt a couple times in 200,000 miles. But there aren't enough million-mile Cummins trucks to bring up the average for Ram, even if they have more million-mile trucks on the road, than all other brands combined. But the study is majorly flawed, since all the trucks that are exported or stolen, then stolen exports, of course *before* having a chance to reach that magic 200,000 miles, are assumed to have died, scrapped/recycled and on a boat for China. In other words, the Silverado should be nowhere as close to the F-series, in the percentage of 200,000 mile pickups "still on the road", since Silverados have very weak demand in other parts of the world, Mexico especially,
FCA is *considering* a small pickup trucklette for the 80th time, in 4 or 5 years??? It's just to get in the news and give the Roadwhales, Vulpii, etc a hardon, and maybe hold off on buying the alternative, Tacoma, etc, but once again, it'll never materialize. FCA has become too accustom to not taking a loss on them, since the last ones rolled off the assembly line. I'll bet they quit making them for a REASON!!! Ya THINK??? I'm sure FCA can think of better ways to flush capital down a hole. They know all the Vulpii, etc. are all full of hot air. FCA surely knows all of them will run to the showrooms to drool, but when it's time to put their money where their mouths are, suddenly their arms grow too short to reach their wallets.. It's called "T-Rex Syndrome"...
Did anyone bother reading the article BEFORE commenting? What part of "...the highest PERCENTAGE..." don't you understand??? The Frontier can be at the #1 spot, theoretically, percentage-wise. The other problem is the trucks that leave the US, exported and stolen, aren't counted nor not taken into account. Crazy... And that's most likely to happen BEFORE the *magic* 200,000 miles. Most of those "missing in action", dropped off the 'map', trucks are alive and well, and well past 200,000 miles, wherever they are. Obviously not all pickups are exported and stolen equally, with F-series leading the pack, exponentially more than any other trucks. Meaning F-series pickups should've taken this by a landslide, with F-150s being the most exported. Remember that Texas plumber's truck, with his company's name all over it, that ended up in ISIS Facebook propaganda? Counted or not? For a few years, Chevy trucks held the title of the "Longest Lasting Trucks", and GM exploited the crap out of it, in ad campaigns. This while Chevy trucks are the least likely to be exported or stolen. Meaning no other market, outside of the US, wants them. Not even terror!st cells.
It's fine if you don't have a lift, but the pros have done it every which way and all agree, pulling the cab is the most efficient. Remember it's not the fender/clip that interferes with head access, as much as the cowl. I don't know about GM, but with F-series, you have to partly pull out the dash to unbolt the clip sub-frame. But head gaskets don't just blow for no good reason. Follow the neglect and abuse 'trail', and all the warning signs that went ignored. I've blown exactly zero head gaskets in more than a million miles driven. At the 1st signs of trouble, you shut it down. With modern diesels, that's an imperative.
@Mark49 - You can remove the fenders too, but when you have a lift, it's easier to lift the cab with the fenders/clip together. Both the Duramax and Power Stroke trucks are designed for easy cab removal. Done in less than an hour and no paint nicks. And no fenders to try to align again with the hood and doors,
The 6.0 PSDs aren't having a problem reaching 200,000 mi. They're solid engines, especially with basic maintenance The 6.4 PSDs may give Chevy the edge around 2020, since those PSDs are throw-away diesels. But it comes down to abuse and neglect the kills head gaskets on PSDs, Duramax, Cummin. That's the only time the cabs need to come off, on Duramax GM trucks too. Cabs need to come off for head gaskets, only. Both can get new head gaskets without lifting the cabs, but you'll beat up your knuckles, curse like a pirate and throw tools around the shop.
Interesting study, but a couple big flaws. The list should be, "F-150 #1", followed by the F-250 #2, by a stinkin' landslide. The reason is, no one's counting all the pickups that leave the US permanently, headed for Mexico and beyond. All over the world, actually. And at a relatively early age too, dropping off the map at around 150,000 miles or less. Meaning, a high percentage of F-series are gone from the "system", to reach maturity, or 200,000+ miles, "off the books". I know I've personally sold a few of my older F-series to friends in Mexico, mostly F-150s. There has to be at least a million (originally sold) US pickups that end up in Mexico alone, each year. Remember approx 1 in 8 new vehicles sold, are pickups, but maybe 1 in 20 vehicles on the road are actually pickups. F-series are wildly popular Mexico too, except our clean example are "new pickups" to them. Especially clean US F-series, hard loaded and low miles. Their (sold new) pickups are usually beat to death at an early age (you think OUR ROADS are bad??), and most are stripper, base trucks. There's easily up to a 1,000+ F-series crossing the border of Mexico every day, legally exported, not counting stolen pickups. For many years straight, pre '08 F-250 were the #1 'stolen cars' in the US. They probably still rank high on the list. Pre '08 F-250s lacked "chipped keys". Also, very late, for chipped key "tech" btw. Sorry, this has absolutely nothing to do with the F-series outselling all others. Remember, the study was about what *percent* of each pickup line, crosses the 200,000 mile mark the most. Meaning the Honda Ridgeline could be #1 on the list, in "theory" anyway.. Also, no SUVs should be on the list, since SUVs (and vans, autos, etc) are essentially banned from import into Mexico (by Mexico) except for examples 10 years old. Nothing older or newer that 10 years old is accepted. So there's an artificial 'glut' or surplus of SUVs in the US, besides not much of a demand for stolen SUVs for Mexico. Thing is, there's no limit (that Mexico places) on US pickups, legally imported into Mexico, other than they must be at least 10 years old. That's it. Usually not enough time for 200,000 miles. GM pickups have never had strong demand in Mexico, new or used. Yes (US) GM pickups are mostly marooned here, leaving a high percentage to be driven into the ground, and to a crusty old age. Except 'used' US Ram trucks are in very high demand in Mexico, that's why they struggle to make the "200,000 mile club" in the US. Keep in mind, in Mexico *new* Ram trucks greatly outsell both Silverado and Sierra new pickups combined! Yes a similar thing happens in Canada too, right behind F-series in 'sales' Ram is huge in Mexico, and Ram HDs and regular-cab 1500 Rams are made in Mexico for a reason. OK, it's another reason.
"...Nissan did state in one of its Titan press releases the Titan lineup will be attractive to 85% of potential pickup buyers from the now 35% with the old Titan..." @BAFO - Does this really make sense to you? Please explain how 35% of pickup buyers were attracted to the old Titan and less than 1% actually bought it?? Is this the New Math???
@papa jim - Nissan's motivation has to be solely profit driven, long term, not so much stealing market share from companies they don't directly compete with. Nissan could put themselves in a position to lead the world with the right trucks, unless Toyota wakes up and beats them to it with the profit Ford or GM sees from fullsize pickups. The odds are slim either will accomplish it, but if I'm a stockholder, I'd better see them take a good stab at it.
@papa jim - The profits from GM and Ford fullsize pickups, and to some degree Ram too, are utterly out of this world, so Nissan has to be licking their chops at the thought of grabbing a sizable chunk of it. Wet dreams are made of these. Any car maker has to take note of the obscene profit potential. Crazy if they don't. At least Nissan is taking some step to get there, and Toyota is sure to follow, don't kid yourself. They already have their toes in the water, so might as well jump in. Thing is, Ford GM and Ram are handicapped by the small cars they make, $ucking away most of the profits their pickups generate. Nissan doesn't have that small car "problem". I know it's a long shot or moonshot, but just imagine it. Nissan was on the right track with the Hard Body, but p!ssed it away. That thing ruled the segment and those things are still absolutely everywhere. Nissan should have made the Hard Body in fullsize 'scale', instead of the Titan years later, which can hardly do anything right. Checks very few boxes. What's been Nissan's 'problem' anyway, the last few decades? So many of their cars ruled their particular segments, all through the '80s. Current Nissan cars don't exactly $uck, but there's no substance, no soul, and for me, no sale. But I've never understood the "It's for taking sales (market share) away from...". Is any automaker willing to sacrifice profits for market share? If they are, would it be smart? Sounds like a GM tactic though. But it doesn't compute from a business point of view.
100,000 Titan sales still can't be profitable, now that there's so many new variations coming on line. 100,000 of the old, simple, paid for, Titans, yeah maybe. Plus now fleets will be demanding base strippers, formerly not remotely possible. But if Nissan could maintain 100,000 yearly Titan sales for 10+ years with no major changes, it may turn a small profit. Except Nissan's plans seem aimed at "long term" domination of the fullsize pickup market, building up to 1 million plus annual sales of a "full range" of fullsize pickups, strippers to high end luxury. Think RCSB half ton "loss leaders" with V6s to $100,000 4500 series beasts with mega luxury. If Nissan could see wild profits from pickups, obviously decades from now, but equal to Ford and GM, *AND* still keep their regular Nissan cars very profitable, world domination is possible.
@BAFO - Yes it desperately needs more power, but a V8 would do the job for far less and far less maintenance and hassle, vs a diesel option. The only consumers that "need" a diesel engine in this segment want the romance of an oil burning rattler like big boys.