"If I am not for myself, who is for me? And if I am for myself, what am I?" (Pirkei Avot 1:14)

The rebbe is lifting up the veil transitioning to his full permanent revelation Victor Espinoza, American Pharoah’s Jockey, Takes ... newyork.cbslocal.com/2015/06/04/american-pharoah-jockey-spiritual... Jun 04, 2015 · American Pharoah's jockey, Victor Espinoza, visited the Queens grave site of Grand Lubavitcher Rebbe Menachem Schneerson on Thursday. 'Where's David From Georgia?' - COLlive.com collive.com/show_news.rtx?id=38632 ... engaged on December 13 and people have been encouraging me to go to the Rebbe and ask for his blessing," Weisshaar told COLlive.com ... 'where's David from ...

REVEALED, CONCEALED, REVEALEDu The Midrash (Bamidbar Rabba 11:3) says that the future Redeemer will be revealed, then concealed, then revealed again. This is quoted by Rabbeinu Bachayei and by the Chasam Sofer on the Torah (both at end of Parshas Shmos). The latter writes: "This is a great test that the Redeemer is concealed [Moshe] . . . and so it will be at the time of our righteous Moshiach [that] he will be concealed after [his] revelation, as mentioned in the Midrash." From the Zohar (Shmos 8b)--as explained in Zohar Harakiya and Shaar Hagilgulim (ch. 13, both by the ARI-Zal, Rabbi Yitzchak Luria, one of the greatest Kabbalists)--it is clear that the man designated to be Moshiach is born naturally in this world, then the soul of Moshiach in the heavenly "Garden of Eden" is bestowed upon him so that he realizes that he is Moshiach, then he becomes concealed, ascending to heaven, and onl afterwards is he revealed to the full extent, the whole Jewish people recognizing him as Moshiach. We see here three stages in the revelation of Moshiach: a) revelation, b) concealment, c) final full revelation. The Midrash Pesikta Rabbasi (37, quoted in Yalkut Shimoni 499 on Isaiah 60) states: "At that time G-d will raise Moshiach up to the highest heavens and spread over him the radiance of His glory"--after Moshiach has already suffered

The Rebbe is not dead,he is chai v'kayum. There have been to date two rerevelations as the next to last Rashi says in chapter twelve of Sefer Daniel he will be revealed, concealed and then revealed again. The latest one is called "Where is David from Georgia" do a search for it at collive.com. The earlier one is the Rebbe and Victor Espinoza American Pharoe.

Okay, prove it. How are we?

Every (circular) argument we've heard about the Rebbe can and has been made, in equally circular fashion, by Christians throughout the centuries. Mark-- Here is your syllogism Fallacy of the undistributed middle Christians use circular reasoning lubavitchers use circular reasoning Therefore Lubavithers are Christians Like I said you are outsmarting yourself. You may know psychology, but you do not know logic. Shame on you.

I don't fear Hashem. I figure as long as I live an honest and decent life (not easy for a lawyer, I know) be kind to others, and be fair, honest and honest with others, and (generally) live by the Golden Rule, then I should be in good shape. When the time comes show your annotated code/law book to Hashem;by contrast, He surely will show you his, the Torah--better redo your brief with all its jurisprudence before your court date. Unlke what you may think Ignorance is not ninety-nine percent; it is one-hundred percent of G-ds's Law. Now go figure--again. BTW, if you don't have a rebbe, I do, The Lubavitcher Rebbe, come to mine--Chazan Albrecht will connect you with him.

September 12 was not the deadline It still is--the period,not the time, of motzei shviis started on that date and is ongoing. A period is an era, not a time.

chauf-- Do your anarchistic/nihilistic views extend beyond Judaism, or is it only your own religious beliefs that you despise and contemn so much? Just curious--get out much?

Why do you delusional fools need a psak din? Why l'havdil does a lawyer t.write a brief and then submit it before the court? For its worthiness--to show the judge and ask for his decision/judgement.

Mark s. re circular reasoning Circular reasoning is not the issue--ad vericundium is. Judaism does not work without an appeal to a revered authority such as one's rebbe-- or even Hashem.The Mishnah says one's fear of one's rebbe must be equal to that of his fear of Hashem. We do it because He said so regardless of the logical fallacy you may object to. They believed in Hashem and Moshe his servant is not a fault; it is a strength. Your problem stems from your reliance on only one of the ways of knowing the truth- that of empiricism. The Rambam says that without the other three, what the Torah and our sages say,and logic and reason, one is a fool who will believe anything. Lose Festinger; long before him it was a truism to say "a person convinced against his will is of the same opinion still-- you included; you are outsmarting your self. Posted by: Dovid | November 11, 2015 at 12:24 PM

Such delusion and detachment from reality Such fulfillment of the igres Ramban on Isaiah 53, "The Suffering Servant". "there will br wicked ones who will revile and mock him, not believing in him at all because of his long delay. If the sho fits...

You're engaging someone with a mental illness. I may be crazy, but I'm not stupid--neither is Mark S.

10. You figure out that a dead guy as the messiah simply ain't Judaism. Posted by: phil | November 11, 2015 at 07:12 AM New psak din that Hashem must send the Rebbe M"H"M now. Rabbi Rules on Moshiach's Arrival http://www.collive.com/show_news.rtx?id=37789&alias=rabbi-rules-on-moshiachs-arrival

Dead? THE REBBE'S OWN WORDS . . . However, it is crucial to note that Chassidim do not propound their own beliefs. As Chassidim--devoted disciples of their Rebbe--their beliefs are based firmly upon the Rebbe's own words: Starting immediately after the previous Rebbe's passing on 10 Shevat, 1950, and often repeated over the following 42 years, the Rebbe emphasized that the previous Rebbe is still with us and will arise and take us out of exile. A prime example of this is the Rebbe's first Maamar (official discourse), upon accepting leadership of Chabad-Lubavitch on 10 Shevat, 1951. After explaining at length how his task as the seventh Rebbe is to bring Moshiach, he concludes: ". . . As it says about Moshiach . . . and my father-in-law, the Rebbe, who "has borne our sicknesses and suffered our pains, and he was wounded by our sins and crushed by our misdeeds" [Isaiah 53:4, which refers to Moshiach--see Sanhedrin 98b] . . . Speedily in our days . . . he will redeem his flock from both spiritual and material exile . . . and may we be privileged to see and meet the Rebbe down here in a physical body, and he will redeem us!" From here and many other places in the Rebbe's works, including many that he edited for publication, it is clear that he considered the previous Rebbe, despite his physical passing from this world, to be the Moshiach. In addition, the Rebbe often quoted the Zohar (I 140a) that saintly individuals will arise at the moment of the ultimate Redemption. We see an example of this in the Talmud (Yoma 5b) that Moshe, Aharon and his sons will have been resurrected when the Beis Hamikdash will be rebuilt. The RITVO (Rabbi Yom Tov ben Avraham Asevilli, d. 1320), in his classic Talmud commentary (Rosh Hashana 16b), writes: "There will be another resurrection of the dead in the time of the Moshiach, for the Jewish righteous who died in exile, that they will come to life and be fully normal members of this world . . . " So stop your ignorant drum beat on from the dead- omit the Abarbanel if you dispute its appositenes!

all their 'prophecies" and claims have not been fulfilled.Really Shmar? All have been and are still being fulfilled. https://youtu.be/eCpO2qwFZO8 Don't like quote on Abarbanel, not apposite? Check Artscroll on Sanhedrin 98B-- they put it there as a support to "from the dead".' stone cold dead? He is alive with his nefesh ruach and neshama still attached to him in the grave. https://youtu.be/iqFgQ9Dg_BE

Lawrence and Mark, now you both gone and done it. You will have to go to so many kvarim to beg mechila from all of those signatories who have gone on. Mark: I didn't look up the Abarbanel, but the context is obvious from the quote, the same way the statement that Moshiach will be the first one resurrected. It means someone who was Moshiach and accomplished everything Moshiach is supposed to accomplish. Did not look it up? Of all the half-cocked slurs and bezyonus of Talmudai Chochamim! When you start up with the Rebbe MHM you are playing with fire! He knows all of poskim including the Rambam--and yet for 42 years after the previous Rebbe left the scene he still said the latter was Moshiach, and that the latter will redeem us! "Who is Moshiach? "I will not be troubled if one will translate 'Moshiach' literally, i.e. the righteous Moshiach, since that is indeed the truth. The leader of the generation is in fact Moshiach of the generation." (Eve of Simchas Torah 5746--October 27, 1985) To those who still question this belief, we say: "Whom have you taunted and blasphemed and against whom have you raised your voice and lifted up your eyes on high--against the Holy One of Israel?" (Kings II 19:22). To quote the Rebbe himself just three weeks after his father-in-law's passing (Shabbos Teruma, 5710--February 25, 1950): "Just as until now it was clear to every one of us that the Rebbe would lead us to greet our righteous Moshiach, so should it be clear now. The [occurrence] that happened is only from our material perspective. It is no more than a 'test,' one of the trials of the era of the 'birth-pangs' of Moshiach which have to happen before the arrival of the righteous Redeemer. The sole purpose of these trials is to conceal the truth [of the workings of G-d in this world]." In retrospect, we see that the Rebbe was speaking not only about 1950 but, perhaps more significantly, about 1994! The Rebbe, again, is giving us clear instructions of how to deal with 3 Tammu In his Sicha (address) of Shabbos Parshas Shoftim, 5751 (August 17, 1991), the Rebbe says: "We must publicize to all the people of the generation, that we have merited that Hashem has chosen and appointed a human being, one who possesses free choice, to fill the role of judge and advisor, and the prophet of the generation, to issue directives and give advice . . . "And everyone must publicize his most essential prophecy of 'Immediate Redemption!' and immediately 'Behold! Here comes Moshiach!'" Where does it say he will live forever? Unlike the Rambam, based on A verse in the book of Isaiah states: "Death will be swallowed up forever, and G-d will wipe the tears off every face." A similar statement is found in the Midrash: "In this world, because of the evil inclination, our days are shortened. In the future, however, death will be swallowed up forever." Among the commentators on the Bible, Maimonides has an unusual interpretation. He says that the verse of Isaiah is not necessarily to be taken literally: "It is inevitable that a person will die and return to that from which he was formed." He does agree that in the Messianic era, "man's life will be lengthened" and death will be considerably delayed, but in his opinion, everyone will eventually die. According to his theory, even "Moshiach will die, and his son will rule after him, and then his grandson." In general, the view of Maimonides is that the ultimate perfection of the world will not occur in the days of Moshiach. According to him, after the era of Moshiach we will eventually return to the Garden of Eden, where souls will be stripped of their bodies and will experience the ultimate of spiritual bliss. the majority of commentators reject the view of Maimonides. Chief amongst them is Nachmanides, together with many leading Kabbalistic and Chassidic masters. According to their view, the ultimate perfection will be in the days of Moshiach, when all souls will descend from the Garden of Eden and will return to be enclothed in bodies. Death will vanish completely and all of us, with Moshiach at the lead, will live forever. (Isaiah 25:8. Midrash Tanchuma, parshas Yisro. Shabbos 152:2. Maimonides' commentary on the Mishna, Sanhedrin 10. Iggeret Techiyat Hameitim of Maimonides. Shaar Hagemul. Derech Mitzvotecha, Mitzvat Tzitzit. Torat Menachem 5748, vol. 2, p. 273. 5752, vol. 1, p. 186) The majority of commentators reject the view of Maimonides. Chief amongst them is Nachmanides, together with many leading Kabbalistic and Chassidic masters. According to their view, the ultimate perfection will be in the days of Moshiach, when all souls will descend from the Garden of Eden and will return to be enclothed in bodies. Death will vanish completely and all of us, with Moshiach at the lead, will live forever. (Isaiah 25:8. Midrash Tanchuma, parshas Yisro. Shabbos 152:2. Maimonides' commentary on the Mishna, Sanhedrin 10. Iggeret Techiyat Hameitim of Maimonides. Shaar Hagemul. Derech Mitzvotecha, Mitzvat Tzitzit. Torat Menachem 5748, vol. 2, p. 273. 5752, vol. 1, p. 186)

you are being misleading. Not at all. Show me where he says if he is resurrected after he has done it all.Once he has done it all he is to live forever,l'olam voed. In the Era of the Redemption, after the Resurrection of the Dead, the prophecy "And I will cause the spirit of impurity to depart from the land" will be fulfilled. Then there will be no more death, and the body will live forever.

Moshiach sometime in the future. However, in his lifetime, he clearly wasn't Moshiach. Really? https://youtu.be/9trQRME1L1c http://psakdin.net/en/ see the signatories on the above.

vortex? Not from my posts-- rather, it is "beam me up Scotty" Are you in?

Mark S. See my post to Lawrence.

Lawrence-- no stretch is necessary Many Torah sources refer to Moshiach rising from the dead, starting with the Talmud (Sanhedrin 98b): "Rav said 'If he [Moshiach] is from the living, [then he is] like Rabbeinu Hakadosh [Rabbi Yehuda Hanassi]; if he is from the dead, [then he is] like Daniel, the delightful one.' " RaShI, the basic Talmudic commentary, explains: "If Moshiach is from those who are alive now, [then] surely he is Rabbeinu Hakadosh [Rabbi Yehuda HaNassi], who suffers sicknesses and is an absolute saint . . . If he is from those who have already died, [then] he is Daniel, the delightful one, who was condemned to suffer in the lions' den and was an absolute saint." In other words, according to RaShI, the conditions for one to become Moshiach, besides descent from King David, are a) that he has experienced physical suffering (based on the passage in the Talmud immediately preceding the above one, quoting Isaiah 53:4, that Moshiach "has borne our sickness and suffered our pain"), and b) that he be a perfect saint. Both conditions were fulfilled in Rabbi Yehuda HaNassi and in Daniel. MaHaRSha, a later fundamental commentary, comments that these descendants of King David--Rabbeinu Hakadosh and Daniel--are specified as candidates for Moshiach because they had already been leaders of the Jews of their generation during the period of exile, as the Torah says (Genesis 49:10): "The scepter [of rulership] shall not depart from [the tribe of] Yehuda." Another authoritative commentary, Be'er Sheva, gives the same reason for Rav Nachman (a later Babylonian sage) saying, in the above Talmudic passage, quoting a Scriptural verse (Jeremiah 30:21) to prove that if Moshiach is one of those living in his time, it would be he. In other words, besides the conditions specified by RaShI, MaHaRShA and Be'er Sheva commentaries emphasize that Moshiach will be one who has been a leader of the Jews of his generation, as were Rav Nachman, Rabbi Yehuda HaNassi and Daniel. The Rebbe has fulfilled all these conditions . . .

Here is why Moshiach did not come succos time although it was the begining of motzei shviis--and is still ongoing. https://youtu.be/UcX6F1px5HI ‘Mashiach in Chanukah 5776′ in Bible Codes by Rabbi Glazerson No need to blame the prediction-- it depends on-- according to Rabbi Kanievski-- on doing Tshuva. ‘Mashiach in Chanukah 5776′ in Bible Codes by Rabbi Glazerson https://youtu.be/UcX6F1px5HI The Rebbe,ha Melech ha Moshiachsays,however, we have already done it all-- You pick. ". . . There is nothing left to wait for any longer, since [the Jewish people] have already completed all areas of Divine service and have done teshuva. It is now solely up to the coming of Moshiach himself." (6th of Cheshvan, 5752--October 14, 1991) "What is our task? "There only needs to be the acceptance of his [Moshaich's] kingship by the people, and the devotion and attachment between the king and the people in a most revealed sense."

"at the latest," This is fast becoming above my job description--motzei shviis is what the Rebbe said in 1980 based on the well know gemara in megilla; anything more is a limb onto which I went at my own risk.

ואם לא הצליח עד כה, או נהרג--בידוע שאינו זה שהבטיחה עליו תורה KING MOSHIACH AMONG THOSE WHO ARISE The great Torah commentator and philosopher, Don Yitzchak Abarbanel (1437-1508), who wrote three lengthy works about the Scriptural prophecies and our Sages' sayings concerning Moshiach and the Geula, writes in Yeshuos Meshicho (Jerusalem, 5753, p.104) that it is possible that Moshiach will be taken from this world and brought into the heavenly "Garden of Eden," continuing: "You should not find it difficult [to understand] that the King Moshiach will be among those who arise in the Resurrection," quoting the above Talmudic passage (Sanhedrin 98b) as proof that this can be so. Here we see the same three stages of revelation, concealment and revelation. Note that Abarbanel (whom the Tzemach Tzedek, 1789-1866, called "the great sage who is perfect in his opinions"--Derech Mitzvosecha, p. 88) wrote this long after RaMBaM's aforementioned ruling concerning the identity and rise of the Moshiach, proving that he did not see that ruling as any contradiction to the possibility of the Moshiach rising "from the dead."