I hope you are feeling well, Neven. There was a band with Eric Clapton, Ginger Baker, Steve Winwood and someone else I forget: called Blind Faith. One of the best records my Dad had in my opinion. They had a song called "Do what you like!" It's a great song. Apparently it was a jazz band but everyone forgot to tell Eric Clapton so he's just playing his incredible blues regardless of the madness of everyone else. Great Stuff.

So, why are these results so markedly different to PIOMAS!

DMI is straight out looking concerning now!

DMI temp is looking nasty!

Jim, that sounds out of bounds, and of course there really is no rush,(as I suspect you suspect...), because you have no doubt already served your cause to humanity!

Ah, Jim, just for completenesses sake, why is the NWP area only really relevant once the melting season is fully underway? What does it function as in terms of being an indicator of climate change? In other words, is it unique in some way?

Jim, yes my question was a bit on the general side but I am glad for the feedback: it gives me real food for thought!

http://greatwhitecon.info/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/UH-NWP-Area-2019-06-28.png (First graph on your "Northwest passage page...)

Jim, you had a graph explaining that sea ice in the northwest passage was way down: how significant do you find this? Is it just another anomaly among the many indicators of a complex system, meaning it's no big deal necessarily, or do you think that perhaps it could be a big deal?

Dmi temp has gone colder than normal: neven is being responsible by not trying to say things are happening when they are not....

Jim, how important is snow extent?

Snow extent seems to be confirming the recent temperature forecasts over at the forum. DMI doesn't look too bad but I say that with a little hesitation... I think the DMI website may well get overloaded this coming spring, however!

Not sure I like the shape of the old ice on the AARI map.... plus the decent temperature spike after such steadiness all winter!!

Hey, Jimbo: how are ya? The temps from dmi don't look too bad but we're all still extremely interested. I hope X-mas and New Years was as good for you as it was for me.

Any truth to this: Science Newsfrom research organizations Melting Arctic sea ice linked to emergence of deadly virus in marine mammals Loss of ice opens pathways for disease transmission among sea lions, ice seals, sea otters and others Date: November 7, 2019 Source: University of California - Davis Summary: Scientists have linked the decline in Arctic sea ice to the emergence of a deadly virus that could threaten marine mammals in the North Pacific, according to a study. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/11/191107112926.htm (It was in Nevens Artic Sea Ice News) ??

The kids have done well I say. Go the kids!!

The bus was 20 minutes late today: apparently because 10 000 kids in Perth held it up!! "Good on 'em!", I told my informative fellow passenger...

The 2019 melting season thread talks about a decades long transition to a new atmospheric circulation possibly taking place as we speak. I don't wish to be alarmist and/or misleading but there has been some media alluding to a possible reversal of the vortex around Antarctica, which apparently has only been observed once before in 2002. Has anyone else heard this about Antarctica? Does it indicate some kind of telecon extinction??

Should we be freaking out yet?

Bad weather for Australia is being predicted as a possible breakdown of the polar vortex around Antarctica appears likely!

Doc, does worldview seem to you like it's showing potential mass export is about to occur through Fram?

Is not worldview currently showing the potential for masssive Fram export?

D'ohhhhh!

The latest update from NSIDC says that the average sea ice thickness for that date is about half what it was in the 80s.

I've never heard it explained as to why <1M km^2 defines "a sea-ice free Arctic". Why then should anyone expect that that particular number will ever be breached? On the forum a few days ago someone put up a formula relating Arctic Sea-Ice-Volume to Arctic Sea-Ice-Area... basically it went down at an increasing rate once Volume went below 5, and it went down precipitously if Volume went below 3. (Obviously I can't find the thread at this point in time or I would have left a link to it.)